TIME MAGAZINE GOING IN ON TIDAL

[dora_da_destroyer]

Breh the service offer high quality sounding music not on the market right now why are you so angry and bitter. Why are you counting his pockets. I hope one day you don't become a creative artist in any field. I swear to god if Beats or Bose did this awww man.

god damn you're dense, i have - in replies directly to you - not said shyt about them offering high quality music, that is a great benefit for those who care about it. it's them crying over and targeting other streaming services when the service is not the issue, the labels are. i would not care if beats or bose did this, i don't have high end sound systems, headphones, etc. so i wouldn't have a need to pay for a streaming service that offers lossless audio at a cost beyond what i pay for spotify. and nothing about me is angry and bitter, i have no reason to stan this move or the people behind it, clearly you do.

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

The average listener isn't going to be able to distinguish the quality difference, "lossless" CODEC and all that. And for the people that do, they're most likely downloading their music anyway, and the actual revenue stream from that demographic would be so small that the whole notion would be cost prohibitive. EDIT: This whole higher quality thing is akin to the internet companies marketing upload speeds to the general public

Based on the names that this garnered immediately, it's a business move, plain and simple. Deals were most likely done behind the scenes and here we are. I'll give them respect in that they do see streaming as the future, but the market will dictate the price point. $20 for all of this seems high, at least they have the lower one. When you're this late to the game after Spotify pretty much knocked all of the competitors out, it'll be hard to catch up. Apple's advantage here is their prominent place with music, devices, etc. so that'll eat some of Spotify's market share. I just don't see TIDAL as being long term. But how much of it would be a loss if one of the larger ones bought this at a profit, a la Apple and Beats?

 

[ORDER_66]

Nothings original Mr Don't follow the trends man. We all do to some extent including you so stop acting as if you don't.

did i say somthing that caused your ire, friend???

 

[ORDER_66]

What in the hell are you confused about?

AGAIN, who the fukk is Softbank????

 

[Cloud McFly]

AGAIN, who the fukk is Softbank????

It is the company that owns Sprint. Jay-Z is still majority owner, even with them on board. Here's all you need to know...

http://nypost.com/2015/04/01/sprint-softbank-purchase-stake-in-jay-zs-tidal/

Sprint and parent SoftBank have bought a minority stake in Jay Z’s subscription music service, The Post has learned.

While the size of the investment couldn’t be learned, sources said the deal values Tidal at around $250 million.

Just last month, Jay Z finalized the $56 million acquisition of Aspiro, the Swedish company that owns Tidal. He remains the biggest shareholder, sources said.

Tidal made a big splash earlier this week, when the hip-hop mogul held a star-studded event in New York.

Tidal claims to have signed up 100,000 subscribers since Kanye West, Rihanna, Madonna, Nicki Minaj, Alicia Keys and even Daft Punk joined Jay Z on stage, according to industry sources.

At the same event, Tidal’s chief investment officer, Vania Schlogel, said the service had been working closely with Sprint CEO Marcelo Claure, although Tidal reps declined to say if the No. 3 wireless provider was also an investor.

The Post reported ahead of the Monday event that Tidal was seeking to raise money and had held talks with Softbank and private-equity firm KKR.

Sprint is preparing to offer Tidal’s service on its phones although the details and the pricing are unclear. A Sprint store manager in Manhattan told The Post he would have more details on the rollout in the next few weeks, adding that “there may be some specials,” or promotions.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Diss artists who want to get paid for their art and made riches themselves brehs You sound like a scorn jealous hating ass Bastid.

Lol. J brags but all his money, but now he's not getting paid?

 

[ROFL_GUY]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-stars-aren-t-very-good-at-launching-startups

Jay Z's 99 Problems: Music Stars Aren't Very Good at Launching Startups


One of the greatest struggles for any entrepreneur starting a new company is getting noticed. Not if you're Jay Z, who can simply call up a dozen or so of his closest friends, such as Kanye West, Madonna, and Deadmau5, to join him onstage. Problem solved.

But music fans thinking about throwing their legs on the table and signing up for Tidal may want to hang on to Spotify or Beats Music a little longer. Famous musicians don't usually make very good technology executives. Launching a successful music career does require a certain amount of business acumen, but the skills don't always translate to the fast-evolving world of tech. And Jay Z's pitch on Monday asking people to pay double the price of competing services in exchange for higher-fidelity tracks and extra cash for artists isn't a lock.

Pop idols such as Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber are becoming prolific tech investors, and Bono has been particularly effective with his venture capital firm, Elevation Partners. As for managing tech companies, Dr. Dre proved it can be done. The list of crossovers from music star to tech business savant falls off from there.


Here are four celebrities who gave the tech thing a shot but haven't turned out to be the next Steve Jobs.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

When Apple releases a new iPhone theh have developers up on stage talking that geek talk and then everyone is like "ohhhh the new iPhone has this, this and this

If it was really about the tech, everyone would have a Droid........ Its about the brand baby.....

 

[No1]

and as i said, they we're still complaining about that slice, this is nothing new, so i don't give a fukk. the beef is with the labels, artists need to focus on life without labels, but having the most established, successful artists be the face of this movement aren't necessarily the people consumers can rally behind in feeling like, "yea, you deserve more"

That is your problem. There is always a bigger target, and some targets are easier to take out than others. It's not a misdirection on their part, it's an initial step. You don't say that shutting down a prison that is exploiting prisons is pointless just because the bigger target is rewriting the laws entirely. You're somehow trying to make spotify into a casual bystander here. The labels themselves have been arguing with spotify for higher pay outs. You keep going back and forth between trying to talk about the music industry and how it was marketed to justify your dislike. Just say you dislike the way it was rolled out, which I do to and be done with it.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Breh the service offer high quality sounding music not on the market right now why are you so angry and bitter. Why are you counting his pockets. I hope one day you don't become a creative artist in any field. I swear to god if Beats or Bose did this awww man.

Because the streams now are barely audible, right. Foh. This supposed hi quality is just a marketing term. People won't even be able to tell the difference.

 

[No1]

If it was really about the tech, everyone would have a Droid........ Its about the brand baby.....

Exactly. The iPhone is a status symbol and having Apple everything is a cool thing to do, and it's easy because it requires no exploration and everyone has one. It starts off with tech and then just becomes a brand.

 

[J-Fire]

the reason netflix beats out crackle is because of exclusive and a larger selection. however, tidal doesn't really offer any benefits over spotify so it is somewhat doomed as it stands.

tidal is like google plus competing with facebook head-on instead of switching it up like twitter. what is proprietary/special about tidal? jay-z and them can set a price all day like i can on ebay...but the question becomes who is going to buy it?

 

[TripleAgent]

Of course they are an African owns it.

No, the idea is just stupid. At least this time

 

[ROFL_GUY]

http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/31/giving-away-music-is-how-you-get-people-to-pay-for-it/

Why Jay-Z’s Music App Tidal Sounds Doomed

Giving away music is how you get people to pay for it. That might seem crazy, but it’s true, though Jay-Z doesn’t want to listen. He just launched a music streaming service called Tidalwith Beyoncé, Daft Punk, Kanye, Arcade Fire, and Rihanna as co-owners contributing exclusive content. The goal is to get artists properly paid.

The problem is Tidal subscriptions costs $20 for high-definition streaming and $10 for regular quality, with no free ad-supported option. Most people won’t pay.


Focusing on exclusives is a cool concept that might appeal to crazy fans, but it’s probably not enough to make Tidal a big success. Watch the video above to hear why. It’s a lot easier than reading a massive article about it.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

http://bossip.com/1124032/the-tidal-press-conference-was-a-tone-deaf-disaster-that-alienated-fans/

The Tidal Press Conference Was A Tone Deaf Disaster That Alienated Fans

Yesterday Jay Z got his rich music friends together to sign on to launch a new streaming service to compete with the likes of Spotify. Tidal doesn’t really do anything different or better than Spotify, though. What it does accomplish, is give artists a means to profit more from streaming services than they currently do in the current market. Essentially, Jay and company are asking us to help line their pockets out of the kindness of our hearts and desire to see them get richer. The entire fiasco was a money grab and it reeked of desperation and pretentiousness.

The celebrities took the stage, somber-faced and melodramatic as if they were signing the Emancipation Proclamation and asked us to help them. The same artists who can’t stop singing songs about how rich they are suddenly need us to line their pockets a bit more. That’s not going to happen and Tidal is going to fail.


You might think I’m just “hating” because I don’t have the money to pay for a subscription service like Tidal.

Well, that’s true.

I just don’t have $19.99 a month to spend on a music service. Because I have $900 Kanye sweaters to buy and I don’t know the next time Jay and Beyonce might tour together; those $275 balcony seats aren’t going to buy themselves. So excuse me if I pinch some pennies here and there, starting with a service created solely to make sure you have more money than you did last week.

What’s more insulting about the Tidal press conference is the self-importance the musicians thrust upon the entire production. They treated their right to earn more money for streams like it was the new Civil Rights Movement (which isn’t a far stretch for Kanye, who’s compared the right to not get photo’d by paparazzi to the actual Civil Rights Movement). Just look at one of Alicia Keys’ comments about her quest for freedom or whatever:

“We’re gathered…with one voice in unity in the hopes that today will be another one of those moments in time, a moment that will forever change the course of music history.”

They even quoted Nietzche for crying out loud. It’s absurd and every person on that stage was totally oblivious to the stupidity taking place before our eyes. Essentially Jay Z wants to take money from one billion-dollar organization and give it to his other almost-as-rich cronies. Especially in light of the fact we’ve still yet to hear a single person on that stage (aside from J. Cole) say anything about the actual new Civil Rights Movement taking place in America.

If you would have told me a few months ago that Jay Z, Kanye West, J. Cole, Beyonce and other rich people had come to sign an important proclamation, I would have imagine – maybe too optimistically – that they would have joined to sign a statement that they wouldn’t perform in Missouri until the Ferguson police department were overhauled. Or that they wouldn’t do any New York shows until the NYPD overhauls its policy on police brutality.

Anything.

Anything important that we care about. Instead, the Jays and Kanyes have stayed silent on the actual issues that matter while pretending that their quest for a few extra millions is as important as the fight we’re facing on a daily basis. That, people, is the definition of “tone deaf.”

I’m sorry, Jay. I won’t be spending a dime on your little music service. But I’ll acknowledge its existence. I’ll talk about it with my friends and I may even tweet about what’s on the site. So no, you won’t get my money. But I’ll still listen to your music. Maybe, then, my presence will be charity enough for you.