Time To Kill This Myth That DMX Had One Of The Worst Falloffs

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DMX had at least 4 standout albums. with 1 or 2 of them being classics. the last standout being over 5 years after his debut. that alone is more than the standard run. not to mention all the tours, compilations, guest features, movies, etc.

plus X was around alot longer than some of you think. he was no spring chicken.

this whole DMX fell off bad stuff is illogical. people applying post-viacom logic to the '90s- early '00s.
just cuz hes not being shoved down our throats everyday like other washed-up rappers, doesnt mean that he fell off any worse than them.
Yes, it's worse. He fell off of a mountaintop. He was the best thing around generating millions and millions of dollars. Now he's a certified dope fiend and doesn't make music. That's a lot worse of a fall than from an artist that never got anywhere near his peak levels.
 

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It's Hot and Hell is Dark - 4x Platinum (#1)
Flesh of my Flesh, Blood of my Blood - 3x Platinum (#1)
And then there was X - 5x Platinum (#1)
The Great Depression - 2x Platinum (#1)
Grand Champ - Platinum (#1)
Year of the Dog - Gold (#2)
Undisputed - 50k (#19)

DMX had one of the greatest commercial runs for a rapper in Hip Hop History. He didn't have a lot of high charting singles. His biggest hit on the charts was "Party Up" which peaked at #27. Ironically DMX best performance on the charts was on featured Lox and Lil Kim's "Money Power Respect' which peaked at #17. DMX has never had a #1 single Hot 100 or RnB but he did have a #1 on the rap charts. He's had 13 Top 20 Rap hits. But DMX was not only to have come commerical hits, he always had hits for the streets and hoods.

People love to talk about Drake's run now but DMX's 5 straight #1 albums and "Year of the Dog" was very close to be his 6th. Look at the sales from his 1st 4 albums. Now to the point of the thread. X fell off around 2004. So his run of solid music went from about 97-04. "Year of the Dog" was a nice comeback album but it didn't bring him back. He then took 5 more years off so by the time "Undisputed" dropped a lot of his fans were grown and weren't checking for him like they use to. But X can still tour all over the world and make dough if he wants. X music has sold 30 Million worldwide. He's one of the highest selling rappers ever. It's sad that legal issues, drugs and bad decisions hurt X's career. But his run is way better then Drake's. Now DMX is a Hip Hop Legend. No Doubt about it.
DMX's sales and commercial success say more about his era than him. DMX was huge in the steroid era in Hip Hop. EVERYONE was going platinum with no hit singles. Once the Post-Napster era started, his huge numbers dwindled and his fan base suddenly disappeared? That means he was just a product of his era. He sold 12 million albums in a 2 year span, releasing 3 albums between 98 and 99. Then he was never close to that again.

It's tougher to sell albums in this era than it was then. You have to take that into consideration when you mention Drake's run vs DMX's. Think about how Rick Ross took over for a run about as long as DMX's, was everywhere, and couldn't even go platinum. DMX wouldn't be anywhere near multi-platinum if he dropped those albums today.
 

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DMX's sales and commercial success say more about his era than him. DMX was huge in the steroid era in Hip Hop. EVERYONE was going platinum with no hit singles. Once the Post-Napster era started, his huge numbers dwindled and his fan base suddenly disappeared? That means he was just a product of his era. He sold 12 million albums in a 2 year span, releasing 3 albums between 98 and 99. Then he was never close to that again.

It's tougher to sell albums in this era than it was then. You have to take that into consideration when you mention Drake's run vs DMX's. Think about how Rick Ross took over for a run about as long as DMX's, was everywhere, and couldn't even go platinum. DMX wouldn't be anywhere near multi-platinum if he dropped those albums today.

If you wanna go that route you cant compare Rick Ross or Drakes run to DMX:dahell:....I agree you cant compare sales cuz its harder to sell now,but at the same time its obviously easier to have a run.....Look at what and who DMX was up against in his era.....Do you honestly believe Drake orRoss would have "took over" for ANY length of time if they competition was what DMX's was? Them nikkas couldn't have took over in the mid 2000's letalong late 90's or early 2000's:laff:...Drake would've been lucky to be Fabolous,and Rick Ross probably woulda been Bonecrusher status.

Im all for not comparing eras,but lets just not compare eras PERIOD:whoa:,nobody from this era really wants those problems when talking success from any angle.
 

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But most artists cant say that they sold that much or that they ever will... So yeah there you go... If that's falling off then let me get on so I can fall off after selling over 16 million records :dead:

Which is why it's one of the "worst falloffs"

How do you fall off if you're never "on" in the first place?

"So yeah there you go" :francis:


You're acting like selling a shytload of albums, and then all of a sudden not, isn't a fall off. So how would you fall off if you're never successfull in the first place?

:talkingnothin:

You're making about as much sense as Knicks tape



The stupid nikka playoffs :laff:
 

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If you wanna go that route you cant compare Rick Ross or Drakes run to DMX:dahell:....I agree you cant compare sales cuz its harder to sell now,but at the same time its obviously easier to have a run.....Look at what and who DMX was up against in his era.....Do you honestly believe Drake or DMX would have "took over" for ANY length of time if they competition was what DMX's was? Them nikkas couldn't have took over in the mid 2000's letalong late 90's or early 2000's:laff:

Im all for not comparing eras,but lets just not compare eras PERIOD:whoa:
I think you can compare eras in select cases where there are parallels and you take those important factors into account.

I think the Rick Ross run post-Deeper Than Rap is a fair comparison because neither of them had a true smash hit and were big because of the streets. DMX just benefitted from debuting in the right era. And I think Rick Ross could've had success in the late 90s, because Trick Daddy did. Even Silk Da Shocker had two platinum albums in the late 90s. I'm not saying he'd have DMX success, because he had a wave that went unmatched til 50 cent.

I agree that Drake is a product of his era though. He couldn't have survived any Pre-Kanye era because he didn't have the legitimacy that you needed back then. I don't think it's easier to have a run today though. I think it's tougher to break through when the top of the mainstream game is controlled by fewer artists, and shazam, spotify, and iTunes keeps the biggest artists at the forefront while keeping everyone else fighting for scraps.
 

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It's Hot and Hell is Dark - 4x Platinum (#1)
Flesh of my Flesh, Blood of my Blood - 3x Platinum (#1)
And then there was X - 5x Platinum (#1)
The Great Depression - 2x Platinum (#1)
Grand Champ - Platinum (#1)
Year of the Dog - Gold (#2)
Undisputed - 50k (#19)

DMX had one of the greatest commercial runs for a rapper in Hip Hop History. He didn't have a lot of high charting singles. His biggest hit on the charts was "Party Up" which peaked at #27. Ironically DMX best performance on the charts was on featured Lox and Lil Kim's "Money Power Respect' which peaked at #17. DMX has never had a #1 single Hot 100 or RnB but he did have a #1 on the rap charts. He's had 13 Top 20 Rap hits. But DMX was not only to have come commerical hits, he always had hits for the streets and hoods.

People love to talk about Drake's run now but DMX's 5 straight #1 albums and "Year of the Dog" was very close to be his 6th. Look at the sales from his 1st 4 albums. Now to the point of the thread. X fell off around 2004. So his run of solid music went from about 97-04. "Year of the Dog" was a nice comeback album but it didn't bring him back. He then took 5 more years off so by the time "Undisputed" dropped a lot of his fans were grown and weren't checking for him like they use to. But X can still tour all over the world and make dough if he wants. X music has sold 30 Million worldwide. He's one of the highest selling rappers ever. It's sad that legal issues, drugs and bad decisions hurt X's career. But his run is way better then Drake's. Now DMX is a Hip Hop Legend. No Doubt about it.
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But most artists cant say that they sold that much or that they ever will... So yeah there you go... If that's falling off then let me get on so I can fall off after selling over 16 million records :dead:
This doesnt negate point of the poster you were responding to,AT ALL
 

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Well if you can decipher his gibberish :yeshrug:
It's pretty simple

"X went from selling 13 million to 3.5 million...he fell off :francis:"

"Yeah but a lot of rappers can't say they sold 3 mill tho :dwillhuh:"

"That's not the point :aicmon:"


"Yeah it is :dahell:"



I mean....if I break it down further, I'll be drawing pictures in MS Paint out here :manny:
 
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