Time To Kill This Myth That DMX Had One Of The Worst Falloffs

[Hi!]

I BEEN TOURING OVERSEAS nikka THAT shyt WAS RESOLVED

BLOWING UP EASTERN EUROPE

BUT YOU DONT HEAR ME THO

WHAAAAAAAAAT

 

[Danie84]

Bought X first three albums, and liked a couple songs off the 4th and 5th album

...but, his fall is one of the sadder moments of the game

Despite the Demons, he still has a Soul, and Exit Wounds always makes me feel some type of way

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I used to fukk with X in 98,99. Just style got tiresome tho, and I didn't bump much of shyt going into the 2ks.

 

[Wacky D]

just my 2nd post in this thread. LOL.

 

[Wacky D]

I wanna support this one fam, but I can't. After Grand Champ, he just went up in a puff of smoke..... almost literally?

grand champ was supposed to be his retirement album.

he was dissin def jam & the industry on the way out and they barely even promoted the album.

it was like night & day, the way def jam handled this album, in comparison to jay's black album - which dropped 2 months later.

 

[Wacky D]

I think the OP is forgetting how big X was from 98-2003 ish.

He could have it all, he was in movies, albums were selling! If he took the Jay route and became less about being in the streets and drugs he could have been something today brehs

theres consequences to taking jay's route.

who else was still around from '98 by the time '03 came around?

His first 3 albums sold 13M copies

His last 4 albums sold about 3.5M

His sales dropped almost 65% from And Then There Was X... to The Great Depression

He fell off hard

that was to be expected.

cant stay on top forever.

I think people are forgetting how different rap was back then.

 

[bigrodthe1]

just my 2nd post in this thread. LOL.

You trying real hard to run from getting your ass handed to you in the other thread
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/wack...-are-better-than-2pacs-first-2-dahell.427049/

Upping old ass thread trying to make people forget how stupid your ass is

 

[Wacky D]

I try my hardest to understand exactly what DMX did that 50 cent didn't do and I cant.

50 cent was a pop star that was more geared towards the mainstream and signed to middle America's favorite rap label.

DMX was str8 gutta but just-so-happened to sell like a pop star and do movies.

50 cent has more in common with jarule.

@Wacky D I see what you're doing
DMX is still gonna lose to Nas in your tournament though

oh nah.

I don't think there was any correlation between the two threads.

Selling 3.5M for your last 4 albums is considered a pretty huge success in today's market. I'm still a fan.

exactly.

its considered a huge success in any market.

But most artists cant say that they sold that much or that they ever will... So yeah there you go... If that's falling off then let me get on so I can fall off after selling over 16 million records

THIS.

people expected DMX to linger around the industry for 20 years, it seems.

You trying real hard to run from getting your ass handed to you in the other thread
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/wacky-d-says-macs-2-nl-albums-are-better-than-2pacs-first-2-dahell.427049/

Upping old ass thread trying to make people forget how stupid your ass is

running from what? you havnt said chit in that thread in days. and you said very little.

this dude just tryna milk me for numbers.

f*ckin weirdo.

 

[bigrodthe1]

running from what? you havnt said chit in that thread in days. and you said very little.

this dude just tryna milk me for numbers.

f*ckin weirdo.

Anybody who's been on here knows that I don't need YOU to do thread numbers You are CLEARLY running from the ether that has been delivered just TODAY in that thread. Including your schitzo bouts of talking to yourself with your alias @Homeboy Runny-Ray stop it slime. Matter of fact I won't reply to THIS thread again cause it's helping you to run. I'm out of here...eat a dikk fakkit and never try to come for the gawd again...now go get your shine box

 

[Wacky D]

he fell off breh. The drugs got the best of him.

By 2015 he probably would've been done anyway, but his career could've lasted longer.

heres the thing, when DMX blew up in '98, I wasn't expecting to still be checking for his new stuff like that in 2003.

same goes with everybody else that was poppin at the time.

 

[Wacky D]

Anybody who's been on here knows that I don't need YOU to do thread numbers You are CLEARLY running from the ether that has been delivered just TODAY in that thread. Including your schitzo bouts of talking to yourself with your alias @Homeboy Runny-Ray stop it slime. Matter of fact I won't reply to THIS thread again cause it's helping you to run. I'm out of here...eat a dikk fakkit and never try to come for the gawd again...now go get your shine box

what do you have? some sort of tracking device on my nuts? you reply right away and chit like you have nothing to do.
and when I'm not online, you talk about me and claim I'm ducking you because I'm not responding. lol. this chit is getting gay.

if you don't need me to do numbers, then get off my d*ck already and stop following me around this bi*ch.

what ether? anybody can read the thread and see that youre an dikkhead. lol. get a life. don't you claim to have kids in school? I'm sure they need help with their homework dad.

I didn't come for you. lol. youre the one that made a thread with my name on it. and you could barely even debate the topic.

 

[bigrodthe1]

what do you have? some sort of tracking device on my nuts? you reply right away and chit like you have nothing to do.
and when I'm not online, you talk about me and claim I'm ducking you because I'm not responding. lol. this chit is getting gay.

if you don't need me to do numbers, then get off my d*ck already and stop following me around this bi*ch.

what ether? anybody can read the thread and see that youre an dikkhead. lol. get a life. don't you claim to have kids in school? I'm sure they need help with their homework dad.

I didn't come for you. lol. youre the one that made a thread with my name on it. and you could barely even debate the topic.

I'm sitting at my desk working for a fortune 500 company while I get paid to shyt on clowns like you
I made a thread to call you out for your stupidity. now I let you die

 

[Wacky D]

DMX's sales and commercial success say more about his era than him. DMX was huge in the steroid era in Hip Hop. EVERYONE was going platinum with no hit singles. Once the Post-Napster era started, his huge numbers dwindled and his fan base suddenly disappeared? That means he was just a product of his era. He sold 12 million albums in a 2 year span, releasing 3 albums between 98 and 99. Then he was never close to that again.

It's tougher to sell albums in this era than it was then. You have to take that into consideration when you mention Drake's run vs DMX's. Think about how Rick Ross took over for a run about as long as DMX's, was everywhere, and couldn't even go platinum. DMX wouldn't be anywhere near multi-platinum if he dropped those albums today.

this is false.

1.) plent of rappers weren't even going gold when DMX was out.
2.) nobody went platinum with no hit singles. and the only artists that even went gold without hit singles were no limit soldiers.
3.) DMX' biggest-selling album was during the napster era.
downloading is NOT the main reason why sales are down. that's just the industry's copout. don't believe the hype.

I'm sitting at my desk working for a fortune 500 company while I get paid to shyt on clowns like you
I made a thread to call you out for your stupidity. now I let you die

you must have a 24 hour job then, with no weekends off.

stop following me around, freak.

 

[Wacky D]

DMX's sales and commercial success say more about his era than him. DMX was huge in the steroid era in Hip Hop. EVERYONE was going platinum with no hit singles. Once the Post-Napster era started, his huge numbers dwindled and his fan base suddenly disappeared? That means he was just a product of his era. He sold 12 million albums in a 2 year span, releasing 3 albums between 98 and 99. Then he was never close to that again.

It's tougher to sell albums in this era than it was then. You have to take that into consideration when you mention Drake's run vs DMX's. Think about how Rick Ross took over for a run about as long as DMX's, was everywhere, and couldn't even go platinum. DMX wouldn't be anywhere near multi-platinum if he dropped those albums today.

rick ross wouldn't have made a dent in DMX' era. his run was nice, but he was the beneficiary of a weak era. he couldn't even blow in the mid-00s when he 1st tried.

drake would've been laughed out the game immediately.

these guys combined are nowhere near DMX.

I think you can compare eras in select cases where there are parallels and you take those important factors into account.

I think the Rick Ross run post-Deeper Than Rap is a fair comparison because neither of them had a true smash hit and were big because of the streets. DMX just benefitted from debuting in the right era. And I think Rick Ross could've had success in the late 90s, because Trick Daddy did. Even Silk Da Shocker had two platinum albums in the late 90s. I'm not saying he'd have DMX success, because he had a wave that went unmatched til 50 cent.

I agree that Drake is a product of his era though. He couldn't have survived any Pre-Kanye era because he didn't have the legitimacy that you needed back then. I don't think it's easier to have a run today though. I think it's tougher to break through when the top of the mainstream game is controlled by fewer artists, and shazam, spotify, and iTunes keeps the biggest artists at the forefront while keeping everyone else fighting for scraps.

lol. none of those rick ross albums were anywhere near as big as DMX 1st 3 albums on the streets or in the mainstream.

trick daddy only went gold in '98/99 homie. his only possible platinum album was "thugs r us" which dropped at the height of napster in 2001.

I know dissin silkk da shocker is the cool thing to do on the internet nowadays, but in real-time, he was one of the biggest stars in rap & one of the main cogs in one of the biggest movements ever. that's why he went double-platinum.

drake doesn't just lack legitimacy. he just doesn't have the talent or he tracks to hang in better eras. you had to have at least one of those to make any type of noise.



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[Wacky D]

Good post. I agree and disagree. I agree that you can't hold one up without the other, and that lowkey back in the Power of the Dollar/Guess Who's Back, and the mixtape days that 50 dropped a lot of simple but very dope gems. I think X's debut had a few more deeper songs like Look Thru My Eyes, Let Me Fly, I Can Feel It, and The Convo. GRODT had Many Men. That's not really my point. IDAHIH and GRODT both changed the landscape of the game.

The one thing I disagree with you on is the level of grittiness. They both changed directions and brought things back to a gritty level, but X's level was really dark. 50 had records like PIMP, 21 Questions, In Da Club, Blood Hound, and Like My Style. DMX's first album had songs where he rapped as the devil's son, talked about raping his enemies' 15 year old daughters in front of them, songs cursing at God with God cursing back, had songs about suicide by cop (twice, once by blowing up a building with him), multiple personality disorder on a song, and did surgeries with a chainsaw.

Jokes aside, X's first singles were Get At Me Dog and then Stop Being Greedy. The 180 that was from the shiny suit era was crazy. Plus, yeah 50 made street shyt popular again, but he was more on the "I'm a slick drug dealer, but I'll still kill you" type of style. X was really on that "I was homeless and I'll stab you to death with a tooth brush and feed you to my dogs" style.

50 cent gets way too much credit.
he didn't make street rap popular again. it was already popular. he didn't even have the hardest records out.
and his most street song that was a hit was wanksta. that song is terry cloth compared to DMX' stuff. and everything else 50 cent did was just as commercial as the majority of the radio records that were out.

50 cent didn't change anything. his marketing gave off the illusion that he was some sort of hip-hop savior, ready to take it back to he streets. then he turns around and drops "21 questions" and a gang of other fluff.

in fairness, DMX gets too much credit too. he should just be credited with taking east coast hip-hop out of the shiny suits, cuz all of hip-hop was not on that. but hey. at least he did something.