To what extent was Jay Z considered a lyrically impressive rapper

[Mag149]

o wow a Jay-z hate thread, this is new

 

[Metal Face]

@Malcom Rhyme King
do your thing bruh

 

[The Fire]

Lyricism isn't limited to corny wordplay and big words like the rappers this forum hypes up
If you don't understand the brilliance of Hov you just don't

 

[Juggalo Fred]

I always considered him a B to B+ lyricist at his absolute best with a good ear for pop rap beats

 

[PhonZhi]

Like 52 cards went out.....I'm through dealin

 

[bad_company]

You know . . before the "I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars" was put into play

I greatly enjoy Reasonable Doubt but I never considered anything in it to be lyrically impressive. So I'm wondering what examples come to mind when you think of impressive lyrics from Jay and was he more noted for his lyrical ability or the content of work

I agree. While clever, Jay z never blew me away with any rhymes. His word play was never anything that I felt was special. I think him being a superior lyricist is something that he and his fans put out there just like when he proclaimed Reasonable Doubt being a certified classic.

welcome to the twilight zone

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Can I live is his lyrical masterpiece IMO.


But I agree.He's said shyt that made me chuckle, but I've never been by Jay's lyrics.


he's not profoundly dope to me like a Scarface/Pac.....He's more "fun"/superficially dope.


Wordplay...double/triple meanings and all that shyt lost it's luster around the time I was a Jr in high school.


I could see how a juvenile mind could think it's the dopest shyt ever, tho

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Can I live is his lyrical masterpiece IMO.


But I agree.He's said shyt that made me chuckle, but I've never been by Jay's lyrics.


he's not profoundly dope to me like a Scarface/Pac.....He's more "fun"/superficially dope.


Wordplay...double/triple meanings and all that shyt lost it's luster around the time I was a Jr in high school.


I could see how a juvenile mind could think it's the dopest shyt ever, tho

You just prefer simple/straight to the point shyt

Face/Pac have never been this profoundly dope

 

[Nomad1]

Jayz is average

 

[BronxFleeZ]

Ya know my take on the God

 

[Mr. Negative]

flow with no cut.
You take it in "vein" to the brain.
Mufukkas is noddin' and throwin up.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

You just prefer simple/straight to the point shyt

Face/Pac have never been this profoundly dope

It's in the essence of the MC.

Jay never hit me in a deep spot nh.


Just impressive to my ears.I get a chuckle...sometimes a line will even stick around in my head for a day or two, if it's catchy.

I remember when this shyt

I creep up when the beef heats up, caught him with his feet up
And shoes off, bout to snooze off

was stuck in my head for a few days.Don't know why, but thinking of the visual had me

but it was like empty calories.That's how most of Jay's music is to me.

 

[razassin]

This is just hate

A lot of us not impressed by jays dikkridin tactics his attention hoin or his sneaky ways

But to ask if the man is not a top notch lyricist ? Op must not have listened to his catalog

Jay is a shallow materialistic muthafukka, but he can get deep whenever he wants to, can create concept songs, do story tellin n come up with wordplay

So id suggest op to
Go listen to jays first 3-4 albums n come up with his own judgement before startin threads just cuz a thought crossed his mind

 

[Broke Wave]

In heaven lookin over me... or in hell, keepin it cozy I'm coming life in the streets aint what its supposed to be

 

[Still Benefited]

Jay wasnt considered in that great class of lyricist til probaly his retirement.

He was at his best and most enjoyed by the masses before he started feelin himself with the flow....when he was just a lyrical nikka/game spitter/real shyt sayer....people that i knew didnt fukk with him because they love lyrics,like people i know who fukk with a Nas or Kendrick...that wasnt Jays primary appeal to the majority of rap fans imo.