Toni Kukoc, states who he thinks the best current NBA player is

[Kal El]

Should neg OP for the clickbait thread title....didn't take a shot at Bron at all

 

[HabitualChiller]

KD is definitely not better than Bron. He's on his level, though.

 

[Controversy]

Im confused... KDs specialty is hes a deadly iso scorer (possibly best ever) and he has insane range...he wasnt known for keeping the offense flowing until GS forced him too...and even then his best moments as a warrior came on iso situations where he buries teams late in the shot clock.

handle smooth as butter, decent rebounder & shot blocker too

 

[Rigby.]

It’s sad we in 2020. LeBron on his way out a bunch of new, exciting young players are in the league.

Yet these dudes are stuck on things from 20, 30, 40 years ago. A lot of these dudes aren’t even old enough to talk the way they talk.

"Man I know I was only 7 when he played, but seeing Jordan knock it out the park for the white sox was Bron still aint did nothin as impressive as that"

I understand why Bulls fans still talk about this era so fondly, its probably the last time they'll ever have enough talent to overcome their sped level management, but the fact that none of these other nikkas cant move on sickens me

 

[The War Report]

We can never have a good basketball discussion without it devolving into some stan wars.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

It's a clear shot at Bron. He's implying that holding the ball 16-20 seconds into the shot clock like a Bron (or Harden) is unimpressive. He'd much rather have a player who can advance the ball and keep the offense flowing quickly (e.g. KD, Giannis, Jokic), even it means you don't get credited with the assist because you're not the last person to pass the ball.

exactly

He’s saying people mistake Lebron as a PG but he isn’t at least to him.

A PG brings the ball up the floor and initiates the offense. Lebron is the offense on his teams... he has the ball in his hands for like 20 seconds.

 

[Woodrow]

if anything sounds like he was dapping up lebron.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Nikka are u dumb euro steps are done in space

Go search up some Sarunas Marciulonis highlights shyt

The players appears more skilled because they are

Eurostep was illegal in Toni's day and the rules were adjusted in the 2000s to make it legal

 

[ISO]

Eurostep was illegal in Toni's day and the rules were adjusted in the 2000s to make it legal

No it wasn’t. Sarunas Marciulonis would regularly attack the hoop with euros, behind the back two step wrap arounds, side steps, two step cuffs.

A euro step is not a travel. And Elgin Baylor and Julius Erving were doing early versions of the “euro step” in their day.

Watch tape...

 

[PaperEnterprise]

Tony Kukoc: "In this era, there’s so many players with multiple skills..."

Meaning that the skill level has improved, and thus players are better and well-rounded.
Thanks for confirming that, Tony.

The NBA no longer needs 1 guy whose sole responsibility is to dribble the ball up to half court, drop it off to your SG or Center and stand around not doing shyt while we all watched 1-on-1 playground basketball. Or did you forget how basketball was played in the 1990s?

Toni*

 

[Roland Coltrane]

No it wasn’t. Sarunas Marciulonis would regularly attack the hoop with euros, behind the back two step wrap arounds, side steps, two step cuffs.

A euro step is not a travel. And Elgin Baylor and Julius Erving were doing early versions of the “euro step” in their day.

Watch tape...

my nikka, the NBA formally allowed per the rule book in the 2000s. Google is your friend and if you make me post the shyt I'm begging the shyt outta you

 

[ISO]

my nikka, the NBA formally allowed per the rule book in the 2000s. Google is your friend and if you make me post the shyt I'm begging the shyt outta you

C’mon son. I don’t even know why I bother with you nikkas.



Players been doing the euro step in games it just became officially recognized by the rule book in 2009 because of the controversy behind it and questioning of it when it’s a two step it’s legal. That doesn’t mean that Marciulonis, Kukoc, Ginobili, Wade, etc. hadn’t been doing the move with no call their entire careers.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

C’mon son. I don’t even know why I bother with you nikkas.



Players been doing the euro step in games it just became officially recognized by the rule book in 2009 because of the controversy behind it and questioning of it when it’s a two step it’s legal. That doesn’t mean that Marciulonis, Kukoc, Ginobili, Wade, etc. hadn’t been doing the move with no call their entire careers.

look here goofy, you out here acting like that was a move done with regularity before the new rule took effect. it wasn't, it was called a travel the overwhelming majority of the time and it doesn't matter how many outliers you decide to use as representative of the league as a whole. it was only until recently until it became widespread the way it has


you basically proving my point dummy

also I think what's getting lost in all this "today's players are more skilled" talk is that they're not specialists relative to their positions like guys were in years past. a guy the size of a post guy on the average has way more skills in the post than the big men today who all wanna be guards. Bron is a prime example of a guy who's post game, if you can call it that, is nowhere near where it needs to be at his size. people always want to talk about how big and powerful he is but it's only in this bull in a china shop dynamic where he has to get a running start to bowl people over.
these are just the facts

 

[ISO]

look here goofy, you out here acting like that was a move done with regularity before the new rule took effect. it wasn't, it was called a travel the overwhelming majority of the time and it doesn't matter how many outliers you decide to use as representative of the league as a whole. it was only until recently until it became widespread the way it has


you basically proving my point dummy

also I think what's getting lost in all this "today's players are more skilled" talk is that they're not specialists relative to their positions like guys were in years past. a guy the size of a post guy on the average has way more skills in the post than the big men today who all wanna be guards. Bron is a prime example of a guy who's post game, if you can call it that, is nowhere near where it needs to be at his size. people always want to talk about how big and powerful he is but it's only in this bull in a china shop dynamic where he has to get a running start to bowl people over.
these are just the facts

No, it wasn’t goofy if it was there wouldn’t be a whole damn compilation on it. It’s not a travel shyt was seldom called a travel and since then more and more players begun using it because Sarunas pioneered it of course there wasn’t many players using it. Just because it was sometimes called doesn’t mean it was called the majority of the time, especially for players with established names. Nothing worse than showing a nikka video evidence just for them to double down with conjecture.


The rule changes have made playing in the post more difficult and back then the game was played through the post and 15 feet in. Not every damn big was good in the post then. And LeBron has been one of the top post scorers and post passers for years now. It’s not gonna be automatic dumb ass not everyone can be Michael or Hakeem. He’s an above average post player. I’m not sure why you went on this tangent or why you even quoted me in the first place to dispute some euro step shyt.

Don’t quote me back biased fakkit

 

[ISO]

@NoHateLeftBehind

Negged back fakkit

Video evidence>>ur biased azz conjecture