You're not carrying a team if you lost /topic
Top 10 NBA Player List: #4 of all-time
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Yes you are, carrying a team and carrying a team to victory are different.
Also I added onto my last post, Jordan had crazy help from Pippen (21 pts 9 reb 8 ast), and Horace Grant averaged 11 pts and 10 reb BJ Armstrong averaged 13 pts and 5 ast. With his supporting cast playing so well, even with Jordan's insane stats, how can you say Jordan completely carried them and give no credit to Lebron for EVER carrying a team? Lebron has never gotten that kind of all around help from his supporting cast.
You just went full retard.. Kylie averaged like 28 and shutdown the MVP... When game 7 was tied Kylie hit the game changing shot.
Kyrie averaged 27, 4 and 4, Pippen averaged 21, 9, and 8, and the rest of Jordan's role players outplayed Lebron's. Kyrie and Pippen pretty much cancel out. And Kyrie didn't shut down Steph at all, it was a team effort, when Kyrie was on him was when Steph was scoring.
Jordan in 93 outplayed Lebron in 2016, no doubt about that, but Lebron still carried the team almost (if not just) as much. Even if u disagree with that, when comparing all the stats and the level of the teams they played, there's no way to deny that if MJ carried that team, and he did, then Lebron carried this team. Regardless of the level that they carried them.
And when the Cavs were down 4 in game 7 Lebron scored 6 straight to make it 89-87 Cavs, then blocked Iggy to keep it 89-89, to even give Kyrie the chance to take and make that shot.
PLUS this years Warriors team was WAYYYYY better than that Suns team.
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so many people really put Kareem over magic? 
I partially agree with you, which is why I have him #4. But Lebron obviously has beaten great teams in the Finals too. I'm just pointing out that one of the few arguments that people use to degrade Lebron, Magic doesn't even have that over him.
And to nitpick more.....
Magic never beat the Moses-Erving Sixers. He got swept by them in a series where none of the games was closer than 6. Magic averaged 19-8-13 on just 40% shooting and let Toney/Cheeks go off for 22-2-6 on 42% shooting and 15-2-6 on 55% shooting. With Erving at the SF, there was literally nowhere to hide Magic in that series.
Magic's teams did beat the Sixers in the Finals twice, but that was before they got Moses when it would be pretty hard to call them a "great" team.
Magic's teams beat the Celtics twice (after choking badly the first time around), but I'd argue the '85-'87 Lakers were even more stacked than the Celtics were.
Magic's team managed to beat the Bad Boy Pistons in 7 in '88 when Rodman/Dumars really hadn't hit their prime yet, then got swept by them the next year when both of them had their breakout years.
this shyt again
Wtf is wrong witchu nikkas?
"Neva carried a team"..."I just laff "...
You state dis silly ass shyt afta breh dropped back to back 41 point games, a triple double in game 7....on da road...in da Finals...against a 73-9 team... being da only person in NBA history to lead bof teams in all statistical categories in a playoff series... and came back from a 3-1 deficit to win his team's first NBA championship.
nikka.
I said that Magic never had to carry a team TO THE DEGREE that Lebron did. Lebron has always been the most important passer, scorer, and defender on every one of his championship teams. Magic never had to carry the scoring or the defense to the degree that Lebron did. That's non-negotiable.
No one ever "fully" carries a team, because basketball is a team sport. But Lebron's had to do more of it over his career than Magic has.
Lebron gets unanimous Finals MVP in every championship, becomes the first guy ever to lead both teams in points-rebounds-assists-blocks-steals just a year after becoming the first guy to lead both teams in points-rebounds-assists, and you claim that he's never carried anyone.
And don't forget differences in era and pace when making these comparisons. Pace has started to pick back up again, but the pace in 1991-1993 was still meaningfully higher than in ANY year since then. When Jordan was averaging 41/game, he had another guy on his team averaging 20+ and four guys in double figures, while the other team had four different guys averaging 15+ a game. The LOSING team in that series scored 107/game, and only once did the losing team score less than 98 in any game.
Compare that to, say, 2013, where both teams only averaged 97/game, or even 2016 where they only averaged 100/game. You basically have to take 10% off of every stat from the early 1990s just to start to make a normal comparison.
Why is LeBron even on this list?
I choose magic btw.
Lebron's moving up in the rankings in part because Lebron haters are too stupid to understand the voting system.
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ARGUABLY .. BUT HES INDISPUTABLY BETTER THAN LEBRON AS MANY OTHERS HE WAS RANKED AHEAD OF. BUT MAGIC WAS JUS A SLAP IN THE FACE DUE TO MAGIC ARGUABLY BEIN THE GOAT.
magic is DEF better than kareem dawg stop kitten yourself
if anything you should be angry at Russell being gone when magic kareem and.bron are here
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