Torn ACLs and MCLs across the nation. Is FIELD TURF to blame?

Ed MOTHEREFFING G

Chances make champions
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
15,899
Reputation
3,903
Daps
56,694
Reppin
206 x 734
Astro turf is WOAT but is the weekly "blown ACL" headline a function of fieldturf being so actively used in NFL and college football?

Study from 2010

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/12/study-finds-acl-injuries-more-common-on-fieldturf/

Study finds ACL injuries more common on FieldTurf

Posted by Mike Florio on March 12, 2010, 12:53 PM EDT

The NFL’s Injury and Safety Panel presented a study today finding that anterior cruciate ligament injuries happened 88 percent more often in games played on FieldTurf than in games played on grass, the Associated Press is reporting.

Although that sounds like a fairly strong argument for replacing FieldTurf with grass in NFL stadiums, the league says further study is needed.

“The paper is designed to stimulate further discussion, inquiry, and improvements in playing surfaces,” league spokesman Greg Aiello said. “It does not draw any conclusions about the cause of the injuries analyzed. Our panel states in the report that additional analyses, data from future NFL seasons, and studies of injury rates on synthetic turf and natural grass surfaces, including for other athletic populations and levels of football, are needed before any conclusions can be drawn or recommendations made.”

The panel, which is chaired by Jets team orthopedist Dr. Elliott Hershman, presented its findings to owners, the players’ union and the companies that make artificial turf, of which FieldTurf is the largest.

The panel also found that sprained ankles happen more frequently on FieldTurf, but FieldTurf President Eric Daliere said the study was flawed.

“I don’t put a lot of weight in it and think it is unfortunate it is coming out this way at this time,” Daliere said. :beli:




Have you personally observed more knee injuries not-from-impact on field turf? If I'm a 5 star WR i'd honestly think about that when choosing a school to play for..
 

unit321

Hong Kong Phooey
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
22,213
Reputation
1,727
Daps
23,107
Reppin
USA
If I'm a 5 star WR i'd honestly think about that when choosing a school to play for..
What difference would it make it? If you don't play home games on astro-turf, you would be playing on astro-turf anyway in some away games.

Anyway, astro turf is an inexpensive long term solution to constant field maintenance. All the mowing and repainting of lines, it's labor intensive. The plus side of astro turf is it is maintenance free surface. It's touted as safer, because it is somewhat spongy to run on and that puts less impact on the joints. But the issue with ACL and MCL injuries is the rotation on the knee. The problem with astro turf is that it is very grippy while wearing turf shoes. You can tear your own ACL just trying to quickly change your running direction without even getting hit.
 

Ed MOTHEREFFING G

Chances make champions
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
15,899
Reputation
3,903
Daps
56,694
Reppin
206 x 734
What difference would it make it? If you don't play home games on astro-turf, you would be playing on astro-turf anyway in some away games.

Anyway, astro turf is an inexpensive long term solution to constant field maintenance. All the mowing and repainting of lines, it's labor intensive. The plus side of astro turf is it is maintenance free surface. It's touted as safer, because it is somewhat spongy to run on and that puts less impact on the joints. But the issue with ACL and MCL injuries is the rotation on the knee. The problem with astro turf is that it is very grippy while wearing turf shoes. You can tear your own ACL just trying to quickly change your running direction without even getting hit.
astroturf is not an option. Field turf vs. grass is what we're discussing.
 

The_Sheff

A Thick Sauce N*gga
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
27,095
Reputation
5,543
Daps
125,834
Reppin
ATL to MEM
What difference would it make it? If you don't play home games on astro-turf, you would be playing on astro-turf anyway in some away games.

Anyway, astro turf is an inexpensive long term solution to constant field maintenance. All the mowing and repainting of lines, it's labor intensive. The plus side of astro turf is it is maintenance free surface. It's touted as safer, because it is somewhat spongy to run on and that puts less impact on the joints. But the issue with ACL and MCL injuries is the rotation on the knee. The problem with astro turf is that it is very grippy while wearing turf shoes. You can tear your own ACL just trying to quickly change your running direction without even getting hit.

Astro turf is that thin carpet turf that feels like concrete when you land on it. I dont think any NFL team still uses that. Plus it got hot as fukk.
 

Trust Me

Coli Prophet
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
26,479
Reputation
4,780
Daps
55,982
Reppin
Orlando
What difference would it make it? If you don't play home games on astro-turf, you would be playing on astro-turf anyway in some away games.


Big difference I'd say. There's been 6 ACL tears on Michigan's football team in 13 months. All occurring at home (where there;s field turf). I'd assume if they were to go back to natural grass, that number would lower by a ton.

I get that they'd still have to play away games and some of those schools might have field turf also.. but it would at least lower the chances of players tearing their ACL's. Now if all schools got together, (or god willing, the NCAA made it a rule to disallow field turf) then I'm pretty sure that number would lower even more so.
 

Ed MOTHEREFFING G

Chances make champions
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
15,899
Reputation
3,903
Daps
56,694
Reppin
206 x 734
Big difference I'd say. There's been 6 ACL tears on Michigan's football team in 13 months. All occurring at home (where there;s field turf). I'd assume if they were to go back to natural grass, that number would lower by a ton.

I get that they'd still have to play away games and some of those schools might have field turf also.. but it would at least lower the chances of players tearing their ACL's. Now if all schools got together, (or god willing, the NCAA made it a rule to disallow field turf) then I'm pretty sure that number would lower even more so.
plus Countess' ACL at cowboy's stadium on field turf

Drake Johnson's injury still makes me sad
 

Da King

Veteran
WOAT
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
64,564
Reputation
1,610
Daps
218,253
Never liked field turf, schools have it to save maintenance cost, they give a fukk with kids destroy their knees
 

Notorious 1 E.Y.E.

Superstar
Joined
Nov 12, 2012
Messages
26,516
Reputation
1,867
Daps
53,564
Reppin
the low end. southside chi
natural grass is the best filed turf is harder on the feet
u get better grip on turf when youre in your spikes tho


but id rather play on grass than turf them lil chopped up tires get everywhere and wont go away
 

The ADD

Old Master
Joined
May 11, 2012
Messages
50,286
Reputation
6,858
Daps
105,176
I wonder if there is some strange association with the conditions on the field usually being favorable causing athletes to be less cautious :lupe:
 
Top