Torn ACLs and MCLs across the nation. Is FIELD TURF to blame?

[Ronnie Lott]

i would rathr play on filed turf

 

[Tony D'Amato]

There are more schools, in the South .

The Big 12,C-USA,Sun Belt, American,ACC and SEC all overlap into the south ( the most populous region in the US)....and most of America does not live in cold climates
and i'm talking the entirely of college, not D1 schools either...grass is still overwhelmingly the more common playing surface.

The injury statistics presented were from the NFL ... not college.

Look it up hoe and stop replying to me. More teams have field turf in college. Maybe 3 or 4 teams in the NFL have more grass fields than turf.

Most small colleges have field turf to have different events. No argument. You named big schools on the SEC that use their stadiums primarily for their football teams.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Look it up hoe and stop replying to me. More teams have field turf in college. Maybe 3 or 4 teams in the NFL have more grass fields than turf.

Most small colleges have field turf to have different events. No argument. You named big schools on the SEC that use their stadiums primarily for their football teams.

what school in any conference, on any level.... doesn't use their FOOTBALL stadium, primarily for their football teams?


even in regards to the SEC, only 4 schools(Ole Miss,Vandy,Mizzou,Arkansas) out of the 14 teams in the conference...have artificial surfaces. 3 of those, having Field Turf

i brought those big schools up, cause you brought up Ohio St. and Texas ( which has played on some form of turf, for the majority of the last 40 years) in some type of argument that big name schools have all switched to field turf to cut down on maintenance costs.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Look it up hoe and stop replying to me. More teams have field turf in college. Maybe 3 or 4 teams in the NFL have more grass fields than turf.

Most small colleges have field turf to have different events. No argument. You named big schools on the SEC that use their stadiums primarily for their football teams.

what school in any conference, on any level.... doesn't use their FOOTBALL stadium, primarily for their football teams?


even in regards to the SEC, only 4 schools(Ole Miss,Vandy,Mizzou,Arkansas) out of the 14 teams in the conference...have artificial surfaces. 3 of those, having Field Turf

i brought those big schools up, cause you brought up Ohio St. and Texas ( which has played on some form of turf, for the majority of the last 40 years) in some type of argument that big name schools have all switched to field turf to cut down on maintenance costs.

both of yall stop guessing

http://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2012/7/2/3129894/is-natural-grass-dying-in-college-football
For my simple study, I used the number of teams and conference alignments as they will be for the 2013 season.

The total number is still interesting, so let's start there. The anecdotal truth I thought was true, is true. Artificial surfaces are the norm:


SURFACE
Artificial 82 - 65%
Grass 44 - 35%

-------------BCS----- Non-BCS Schools
Artificial 47%----- 94%
Grass 53% ------ 6%

Read the article for a conference and climate analysis but its clearly all about the money. Field turf has an upfront cost but is cheap. its costing teams playmakers though. And big schools aren't switching to field turf to save money, its literally the OPPOSITE Taxman.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

both of yall stop guessing

http://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2012/7/2/3129894/is-natural-grass-dying-in-college-football
For my simple study, I used the number of teams and conference alignments as they will be for the 2013 season.

The total number is still interesting, so let's start there. The anecdotal truth I thought was true, is true. Artificial surfaces are the norm:


SURFACE
Artificial 82 - 65%
Grass 44 - 35%

-------------BCS----- Non-BCS Schools
Artificial 47%----- 94%
Grass 53% ------ 6%

Read the article for a conference and climate analysis but its clearly all about the money. Field turf has an upfront cost but is cheap. its costing teams playmakers though. And big schools aren't switching to field turf to save money, its literally the OPPOSITE Taxman.

I'm not guessing, i'm talking about the entirety of college football.. not just D1.

we already know that most of these FCS, D2,D3 and NAIA schools can't afford that shyt.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

I think these players are working out too many parts of the body there were never meant to be worked out thus making it more susceptible to injury if that makes sense.

this right here.... Same thing is happening in baseball with every pitcher needing tommy john... They old days of a person playing 3 sports and having fun is over. They make you a 1 sport person at like 7 and train you to death... al that overdosing on training and not being allowed to play other sports (which works different mucles) is starting to put a strain on the human body....

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

this right here.... Same thing is happening in baseball with every pitcher needing tommy john... They old days of a person playing 3 sports and having fun is over. They make you a 1 sport person at like 7 and train you to death... al that overdosing on training and not being allowed to play other sports (which works different mucles) is starting to put a strain on the human body....

that could be a factor but that would be apples to apples between surfaces. In fact, you've just eliminated a variable for us because we're talking about football players who have trained to be football players only forever.

I'm proposing and questioning whether for those players, that ligaments are being damaged at a greater rate from non impact events on field turf than grass.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

that could be a factor but that would be apples to apples between surfaces. In fact, you've just eliminated a variable for us because we're talking about football players who have trained to be football players only forever.

I'm proposing and questioning whether for those players, that ligaments are being damaged at a greater rate from non impact events on field turf than grass.

I understand what you're saying. I was just replying to somebody who mentioned over training and I remember over training is a debate in baseball as well... And baseball does have higher injury rates in turf vs grass....

I still think the over training being done today because everybody wants 100million is having a toll on the body. What happens then is that cuts and plants that were done with no problem are injuring players now because the ligaments are already sore and tender. And that fake grass aint no help either...

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

this right here.... Same thing is happening in baseball with every pitcher needing tommy john... They old days of a person playing 3 sports and having fun is over. They make you a 1 sport person at like 7 and train you to death... al that overdosing on training and not being allowed to play other sports (which works different mucles) is starting to put a strain on the human body....

on top of that, Our bodies just aren't meant to be playing on shyt like field turf or any of these artificial surfaces.

they praise the speed and grip the field has, but we've clearly been seeing the consequences of such...

 

[RammerJammer]

I like Natural grass better, our grass is

Now some grass, like Ryan Field (Northwestern) for example

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

on top of that, Our bodies just aren't meant to be playing on shyt like field turf or any of these artificial surfaces.

they praise the speed and grip the field has, but we've clearly been seeing the consequences of such...

its just always been in comparison to Astroturf. This is HS level so take it with a grain of salt, but I've played on field turf at detroit country day () and astroturf at the silverdome and A1 primo grass at Muskegeon Reeth's Puffer...field turf is better than astro but good grass trumps all and feels better.

 

[beenz]

Astro turf is that thin carpet turf that feels like concrete when you land on it. I dont think any NFL team still uses that. Plus it got hot as fukk.

I remember ESPN talking about astro turf back in the day, and that shyt was ridiculous. like u said, it was a thin ass layer, and typically had concrete under it

no wonder wendell davis blew out two knee's at the same time on that shyt in the Vet.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Too much emphasis on heavy squats could be a factor also.

People racking up the squat rack, ligaments getting tighter and takes less to snap. Not in all cases though!

 

[Tony D'Amato]

both of yall stop guessing

http://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2012/7/2/3129894/is-natural-grass-dying-in-college-football
For my simple study, I used the number of teams and conference alignments as they will be for the 2013 season.

The total number is still interesting, so let's start there. The anecdotal truth I thought was true, is true. Artificial surfaces are the norm:


SURFACE
Artificial 82 - 65%
Grass 44 - 35%

-------------BCS----- Non-BCS Schools
Artificial 47%----- 94%
Grass 53% ------ 6%

Read the article for a conference and climate analysis but its clearly all about the money. Field turf has an upfront cost but is cheap. its costing teams playmakers though. And big schools aren't switching to field turf to save money, its literally the OPPOSITE Taxman.

I dont know how this makes me wrong?

I said the majority of schools use turf and that may have an impact on whatever study. More kids are playing on field turf than grass

Also the cost sh1t was their reasoning.

I was right and that hoe high yellow n1gga was wrong


He stays picking arguments that arent even arguments. Smug azz n1gga.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

I dont know how this makes me wrong?

I said the majority of schools use turf and that may have an impact on whatever study. More kids are playing on field turf than grass

Also the cost sh1t was their reasoning.

I was right and that hoe high yellow n1gga was wrong


He stays picking arguments that arent even arguments. Smug azz n1gga.

dude aren't you in your late 20s at least? grow up...you sound like a total jackass.

You're wrong because you said big schools are moving to fieldturf to save money and its literally the opposite; small schools are.