Trump Administration sues Yale for letting in too many Black kids

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If your family makes less than 100k you go to school for free at MIT and Stanford. Look it up.

ok then why arent they accepting black kids into these schools, why is trump even bringing up Yale?!?:what: shyt doesnt make any sense to me considering mist of these schools is still lily white...
 

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There's significantly more Asians now than in the 1980s. I don't understand why yall wanna stick your heads in the sand in regards to Asians and Hispanics. They don't like our black asses either.
Breh check out this IG page run by Asians, nothing but racist comments against black people. Peep the racist comments.


 
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ok then why arent they accepting black kids into these schools, why is trump even bringing up Yale?!?:what: shyt doesnt make any sense to me considering mist of these schools is still lily white...
Do you know how hard it is to get into MIT? You have to be a STEM wiz. MIT isn't accepting black kids because we often come from bad schools due to white supremacy. Our communities don't provide us with good STEM education that you need to get into MIT.

Almost all the ivy league are free for people who make less than 100k, just look it up breh.
Since you're too lazy I did the work for you. Here's columbia University's page. read the part where you don't have to pay if your fam makes less than 100k

Facts and Figures | Columbia Financial Aid and Educational Financing
 

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Do you know how hard it is to get into MIT? You have to be a STEM wiz. MIT isn't accepting black kids because we often come from bad schools due to white supremacy. Our communities don't provide us with good STEM education that you need to get into MIT.
:beli: I mean I get that but you telling me that there's no smart black kids around the country worth accepting into MIT that knows there shyt from a young age??? Especially if they come from poor backgrounds??? :what: it sounds to me like they designed the system to exclude smart black kids from the process regardless of where they from or school they went to. as long as their black it's a no??? SMFH...
 

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:beli: I mean I get that but you telling me that there's no smart black kids around the country worth accepting into MIT that knows there shyt from a young age??? Especially if they come from poor backgrounds??? :what: it sounds to me like they designed the system to exclude smart black kids from the process regardless of where they from or school they went to. as long as their black it's a no??? SMFH...
I'm not saying that there are no smart kids. I'm saying that when it comes to STEM our community is the least prepared. This is facts. It has to do with the fact that we're often left to attend bad schools. You can be smart but be bad at physics and math (our public school system fails minorities when it comes to STEM). One of the main reason why MIT is filled with Asians and Cacs is because they often get good STEM education as kids. Part of the reason why is because their parents are often doctors, engineers, etc.

Let me give you an example, when I was in highschool my Calculus teachers would just go up to the board and solve problems without really explaining the significance/real world applications to Calculus. Now that I'm in school I know why Calculus is important, and its application. Schools like MIT expect you to know this stuff before you even apply to their school.
 

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I'm not saying that there are no smart kids. I'm saying that when it comes to STEM our community is the least prepared. This is facts. It has to do with the fact that we're often left to attend bad schools. You can be smart but be bad at physics and math (our public school system fails minorities when it comes to STEM). One of the main reason why MIT is filled with Asians and Cacs is because they often get good STEM education as kids. Part of the reason why is because their parents are often doctors, engineers, etc.

I see...:beli: it's just it doesnt feel impossible given how vast our numbers are around the country... I feel there's ALOT of qualified african-american students out there but they being herded away from these PWI's...
 

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I see...:beli: it's just it doesnt feel impossible given how vast our numbers are around the country... I feel there's ALOT of qualified african-american students out there but they being herded away from these PWI's...
It's one of the main reasons why if you look at stats for black people in STEM, the more Asians there are, the less black people there will be. They end up pushing us out of STEM, because they are often better prepared (mostly because their paretns worked in STEM so they received better STEM education).

It wasn't until my second semester in college that I realized that Calculus is basically a way to study rates. Any kind of rates really. If you can find two variables and relate them in some way, you can find the rate of change relative to each other. Asian kids usually already know this by the time they like 7:mjlol:mostly because their parents teach them this stuff or they go to Kumon after school. If you don't live and breathe STEM you not getting into MIT :francis:
 

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I see...:beli: it's just it doesnt feel impossible given how vast our numbers are around the country... I feel there's ALOT of qualified african-american students out there but they being herded away from these PWI's...
Imma keep it a buck, getting into schools like MIT and Caltech is HARD breh, proabably harder than Ivy Leagues tbh. You're competing against kids who won the International Math Olympid or conducted Cancer research at Harvard during summer vacation:mjlol:. I don't know how to describe it, but those schools in particular already filter out black people because of the rigorus STEM requirements. In order to be a high school student who has done rigorous research like that you either need parents who are scientists or you went to a really good school. You can be smart and black, but if your STEM skills aren't up to par to the Asian applicants that are out here winning international Olympiads you not getting in.

Take Caltech for example, it's the second best STEM school in the world after MIT. They only have like 20 black people out of 2000 students I know this because I have a friend who goes there and he told me that it's only him and 10 other people in his undergrad:mjcry:/
They have so little black people that they don't even list "black" for their student body
black people are listed under "under represented minorities" because we barely make up more than 1% of the university:francis:

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Wonder why they mentioned Asians

I'm guessing it's because Asians are submissive enough and have a low enough population that they aren't a risk to yt
 

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ok then why arent they accepting black kids into these schools, why is trump even bringing up Yale?!?:what: shyt doesnt make any sense to me considering mist of these schools is still lily white...
Because very few Black kids have the test scores and those who do usually go Ivy League.
 

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Trump administration targets diversity hiring by contractors
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    FILE - In this Oct. 2, 2019 file photo, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella talks during a company event in New York. Nadella said in June 2020 that the tech company would double the number of Black and African American managers, senior individual contributors and senior leaders by 2025. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan, File)

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    FILE - In this March 10, 2020 file photo, Wells Fargo CEO and President Charles Scharf is seated to testify during a hearing of the House Financial Services Committee, on Capitol Hill in Washington. American companies promising to hire more Black employees in leadership roles and teach their workforce about racial bias are getting a message from President Donald Trump’s administration: Watch your step. Trump’s Labor Department is using a 55-year-old presidential order spurred by the Civil Rights Movement to scrutinize companies like Microsoft and Wells Fargo over their public commitments to boost Black employment and leadership roles.(AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File)
MATT O'BRIEN AND ALEXANDRA OLSON
Fri, October 9, 2020, 5:44 PM GMT+2·5 mins read




American companies promising to hire more Black employees in leadership roles and teach their workforce about racism are getting a message from President Donald Trump’s administration: Watch your step if you want to keep doing business with the federal government.

Trump’s Labor Department is using a 55-year-old presidential order spurred by the Civil Rights Movement to scrutinize companies like Microsoft and Wells Fargo over their public commitments to diversity. Government letters sent last week warned both companies against using “discriminatory practices” to meet their goals.

Microsoft has brushed off the warnings, publicly disclosing the government inquiry and defending its plan to boost Black leadership.


But advocates for corporate diversity initiatives worry that more cautious executives will halt or scale back efforts to make their workplaces more inclusive out of fear that a wrong step could jeopardize lucrative public contracts. The agency has oversight over the hiring practices of thousands of federal contractors that employ roughly a quarter of all American workers.

“For tech companies that don’t care about these issues, the pronouncements are a dog whistle that they can carry on discriminating the way they already have,” said Laszlo Bock, an executive who ran Google’s human resources division for more than a decade and now leads software startup Humu.

Bock said those who do care, however, will see Trump's actions as political “sound and fury" that will be hard to enforce.

“It’s not at all illegal to strive to have a workforce that reflects the makeup of your nation,” Bock said.

Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson’s 1965 order was designed to “adjust the imbalances of hiring that are a legacy of our racist past,” said employment attorney and public contracting expert Daniel Abrahams.

“Trump is turning it around into an instrument of white grievances,” he added.

The president has also ordered the Labor Department to set up a new hotline to investigate complaints about anti-racism training sessions that Trump has called “anti-American” and “blame-focused.” The order signed last month calls attention to discussions of deep-seated racism and privilege that could make white workers feel “discomfort” or guilt.

Trade groups representing the tech and pharmaceutical industries are protesting Trump's new order, saying it would restrict free speech and interfere with private sector efforts to combat systemic racism.

Trump's executive order is a twist on Johnson’s 1965 directive and amendments that followed that set rules banning discriminatory practices at companies that contract with the federal government. It requires contractors to take “affirmative action” to open the doors to hiring minorities and women.

But the Labor Department is raising questions about the specificity of commitments made by executives addressing racial injustice in response to the wave of Black Lives Matter protests that followed May's police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said in June that the tech company would double the number of Black and African American managers, senior individual contributors and senior leaders by 2025. Wells Fargo CEO Charles Scharf made a similar commitment in June to doubling Black leadership over the next five years.

Abrahams said he doubts that the Labor Department has much of a case against companies that are trying to boost diversity, though “there’s some discrimination against white people that’s probably actionable,” and courts have danced around the question of what happens when employers set “inflexible” targets for racial quotas.

But he said it’s more likely the Trump administration is using the move as a political tactic ahead of the presidential election. Trump has criticized workplace training that he says is based on critical race theory, or the idea that racism is systemic in the U.S.

Dozens of companies have ramped up their efforts to bring more Black and other minority employees into their ranks since the protests over Floyd’s death shook the country and triggered a national reckoning over racism. Many have announced initiatives specifically targeting the African American community.

The CEOs of the 27 largest employers in New York — including Amazon and J.P. Morgan — formed a coalition to recruit 100,000 people from low-income Black, Hispanic and Asian communities in the city by 2030. More than 40 companies have joined a pledge to add at least one Black member to their board of directors by 2021.

Several other top government contractors have set numeric goals for adding Black or Latino employees, including consulting firms Accenture and Deloitte.

Johnny Taylor, the CEO of the Society for Human Resource Management, said he has asked for a conference with U.S. Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia to seek clarity about the intention of the inquiries.

“I want them to ensure the companies are complying with the law but that investigation doesn’t result in a chilling effect on diversity and inclusion programs,” said Taylor, whose organization represents 300,000 human resource professionals across the world.

Taylor said he believed the policies announced by Microsoft and Wells Fargo amounted to aspirational goals, rather than quotas based on race. But he said announcing numbers may have opened companies to discrimination complaints.

Companies can protect themselves against claims of discrimination by widening their applicant pool to ensure a large enough number of qualified minority candidates, said Mabel Abraham, an assistant professor of management at Columbia University. The challenge, she said, is that companies have to show they have measurable diversity goals to attract talented minority applicants in the first place.

“Companies that are going to get the applicants are the ones that actually have minorities in top roles and that are putting out messages of race and diversity,” she said. “It’s a chicken-and-egg problem.”

The latest actions affecting contractors align with a broader Trump administration trend on matters of race.

The Education Department last month opened an investigation into racial bias at Princeton University over the school’s recent acknowledgment of racism on campus, and on Thursday, the Justice Department sued Yale University, weeks after prosecutors found the university was illegally discriminating against Asian American and white applicants, in violation of federal civil rights law.

Trump’s newest executive order also applies to educational institutions that receive federal funding. At least one university, the University of Iowa, suspended its diversity efforts in response the order.

Liz Tovar, the university’s interim associate vice president of diversity, equity and inclusion, said the decision was taken because of “the seriousness of the penalties for non-compliance with the order, which include the loss of federal funding.”
 

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Imma keep it a buck, getting into schools like MIT and Caltech is HARD breh, proabably harder than Ivy Leagues tbh. You're competing against kids who won the International Math Olympid or conducted Cancer research at Harvard during summer vacation:mjlol:. I don't know how to describe it, but those schools in particular already filter out black people because of the rigorus STEM requirements. In order to be a high school student who has done rigorous research like that you either need parents who are scientists or you went to a really good school. You can be smart and black, but if your STEM skills aren't up to par to the Asian applicants that are out here winning international Olympiads you not getting in.

Take Caltech for example, it's the second best STEM school in the world after MIT. They only have like 20 black people out of 2000 students I know this because I have a friend who goes there and he told me that it's only him and 10 other people in his undergrad:mjcry:/
They have so little black people that they don't even list "black" for their student body
black people are listed under "under represented minorities" because we barely make up more than 1% of the university:francis:

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Just say that you believes blacks are too dumb to get into ivy league schools. Its pathetic,

This mindset is what seperates you from nigerians. We don't impose limits on ourselves as an excuse so we dont even try. If ADOS communities focused they could easily prepare the youth for MIT in the future. But the youth have no chance when the adults dont believe in them.
 

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I assume these are the kinds of tangibles TLRepublicans have been waiting for
Just say that you believes blacks are too dumb to get into ivy league schools. Its pathetic,

This mindset is what seperates you from nigerians. We don't impose limits on ourselves as an excuse so we dont even try. If ADOS communities focused they could easily prepare the youth for MIT in the future. But the youth have no chance when the adults dont believe in them.


Thank you addressing that nonsensical post
 
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