Twitter Gets At Kendrick Lamar: "nikka Whole Discography Is Exploiting Black Plight But He's Quiet"

[FunkDoc1112]

Lets set the record straight. Lupe is a failed mainstream artist because he couldn't write a SONG to save his life for much of his career. It has nothing to do with him being some pure hip hop guy. He has more commercial radio singles than Kendrick. The real reason Lupe and his fans are so resentful of Kendrick is because Kendrick can balance between the mainstream and "real rap" worlds with ease. He's a great song writer, he picks great beats, and his collab decisions are excellent. He can get away with having a single with Rihanna and having an Alchemist beat on the same album because he excels in both worlds.

The real blueprint is Kanye, who had mainstream ass smash hits on College Dropout while simultaneously having tracks with Common and Kweli. People need to just admit they're mad that Lupe tanked his career with terrible music, and by the time he rebounded it was too late.The genre had moved on and a new collection of rappers with "conscious" lyrics and mainstream appeal had cropped up (Cole, Kendrick, Chance, Drake to a degree, etc).

Back to the thread tho: if someone hadn't taken Cole's picture at the protests you'd have no idea he was there. We don't know if he donated money. We don't know what Kendrick has or hasn't done...or any other rapper. No one is obligated to virtue signal via social media. Kendrick and Cole rarely tweet...in fact they only use IG and twitter to promote their albums or tours, usually. Who fukking cares.

I'm still lowkey about Lupe fronting like it was him vs. the label on some "Atlantic made me sellout" shyt when in reality he had control over everything and just wanted them to promote it better.

He corrected course but it was a horrible look.

 

[Osmosis]

You literally just described a huge portion (the main portion?) of art through all of history. You don't look to art to be direct and literal, that's what a SPEECH is for. Most artists when they express themselves aren't trying to preach to you like a literal nonfiction speech would, they're using other, indirect, poetic means to plant their message deeper in your consciousness in a different way. The whole point of art as a form is to have the listener USE THEIR BRAIN, as you say REACH INTO THEIR IMAGINATION, and work out the interpretation for themselves. Go elsewhere if you want shyt direct and literal and easy.

But talking like Kendrick gonna be some safe negro trying not to offend a white fan base is clown shyt.

Definitely non-offensive right there.

Kendrick was preaching respectability politics when Mike Brown died. There’s a reason TDE told interviewers to not ask him political questions.

 

[TruDatz]

Kendrick was preaching respectability politics when Mike Brown died. There’s a reason TDE told interviewers to not ask him political questions.

They don’t hear you tho LOL smh lot of dikksucking in here

 

[Kaypain]

Kendrick dont even be on social media like that. Hell we haven't even seen a pic of his daughter yet

 

[Kaypain]

People using he don't fukk with social media but he was sure on that shyt when damn dropped

Was is him or was it his typical PR team that posts shyt just to promote shyt.

 

[Kaypain]

if you not tweeting you not with it, right?

who wrote this goofy shyt, meek?

I dont even like fukking Twitter. They don't even let you speak your mind without locking your account out. So why these nikkas are leaning so much is beyond me. fukk Twitter, fukk Instagram (They dont even moderate their comments), fukk Facebook.

 

[Cadillac]

Kendrick is Lupe if decided to sell out and play ball with the suits.

Love both of them, but being more marketable/palatable doesn't negate the fact that not only did Lupe lay a lot of groundwork for him, there is an undeniable density to his lyrics and subject matter especially when it comes to the matter at hand.

kendrick and lupe are not the same artist, idk how this comparison is still made.lol

I don't really see the Lupe/Kendrick connection. Their music isn't similar like that and they rap nothing alike.

exactly, idk why nikkas still compare the two. they only the same to some because for some reason they fill some "concious" lane i guess


but in actuality their not even close

the music isnt the same(Lupe is more cryptic, Kendrick is more straightfoward obviously)
content isnt even the same
rapping isnt even the same
Their Messages are not even the same - Lupe is more blatant as a concious and socio-political rapper, whereas kendrick really isnt and is more so just talking about stories from his city and his inner demons

Their style of music is diff- Lupe is more alternative/weird act, Kendrick isnt.

etc
why did this thread even turn into a Lupe thread anyways

 

[Cadillac]

Lupe Fiasco was the preeminent “conscious” rapper for millennial teenagers. He had more depth than a Kanye West. It was like one of us made it, but it still wasn’t “cool” to be woke yet. The Cool was 2007 - if you’re 30/31 right now, that was your freshman year of college. Cole, Kendrick, Wale and them were just starting to be noticed at that point. He essentially oversaw that whole lane in the mainstream as Kanye fgot arther away from College Dropout Kanye. Superstar was the number 1 song in America. When referring to the “conscious” rapper of the moment - mainstream acts would more commonly reference him. Those “college rappers” Asher Roth, and guys like Cole and them even opened for him. There’s pretty much a direct line in the eyes of a very late 80s to very early 90s kid who was in high school when Lupe got on and in college when these guys got on. Wale acknowledges it all the time and they all have at one point or another.

altho this is true, the constant comparsions are tiring and really offbase. Kendrick and Lupe are nothing alike. "Concious" is their only similarity. And really they dont even approach it the same.

Infact Kendrick isnt even really "concious" rapper like a Pac, Cube, Chuck d, or even a Lupe is where they have discussed stuff like politics, etc. Kendrick is more inward looking/self-reflective artist. At times he will address social flaws in society and rarely political one but it will just be him brushing over it.(ex Hood politics). But its just ground and sometimes necessary ground to cover for the story hes telling

funny enough a interview he did around 2013/2014 had him saying he didnt even want to be considered a "concious" artist.

Yup I always felt like Lupe was a dope MC, but never could had that balance like a Kendrick, Nas, Jay

define "balance" you talkin make music to appease hip hop fans and pop type of thing? Or something else

cause he did when he was getting plaques(06-10/11), he had the lyrical miracle crowd in his hand, pop, hip hop fans etc. Lupe can still make more general friendly music while still being the best lyricist.

he just chooses to go all the way into cryptic territory and makes the music he does now. I have no issues with it, cause I greatly enjoy T&Y and Drogas Wave.

But i understand that for some they dont fukk with it. Due to the fact that he seems to be doing to much. and his current Super lyrical style can be very offputing to people

 

[Michael's Black Son]

they work for wypipo


gotta stop looking to entertainers to be the voices of the black community

exactly. They get get paid by CACs and rely on CACs for album release dates so they can eat. People need to see it for what it is. What black celebrity is really eating without CACs? shyt, even Dr Dre moves how he moves because he’s been running with Jimmy for fukking 30 years.

 

[Shade]

Lupe Fiasco was the preeminent “conscious” rapper for millennial teenagers. He had more depth than a Kanye West. It was like one of us made it, but it still wasn’t “cool” to be woke yet. The Cool was 2007 - if you’re 30/31 right now, that was your freshman year of college. Cole, Kendrick, Wale and them were just starting to be noticed at that point. He essentially oversaw that whole lane in the mainstream as Kanye fgot arther away from College Dropout Kanye. Superstar was the number 1 song in America. When referring to the “conscious” rapper of the moment - mainstream acts would more commonly reference him. Those “college rappers” Asher Roth, and guys like Cole and them even opened for him. There’s pretty much a direct line in the eyes of a very late 80s to very early 90s kid who was in high school when Lupe got on and in college when these guys got on. Wale acknowledges it all the time and they all have at one point or another.

This reminds me that alot of that class became apart of a collective supergroup Lupe created in 2010 called The All City Chess Club and Cole was apart of that group. Crazy how he leaped Lupe in terms of success just a few years after.

 

[xCivicx]

I been told yall about duckworth

 

[xCivicx]

Kendrick was preaching respectability politics when Mike Brown died. There’s a reason TDE told interviewers to not ask him political questions.

He also said that black people are oppressed because we reject christianity

 

[Chip Skylark]

didnt kendrick say some dumb shyt in a magazine interview after mike brown got killed and deflected to respectability politics? then dropped the blacker the berry with that line about respectability politics right after?

then dropped a pseudo-pro black album with respectability politics sprinkled all throughout that everybody immediately called a classic?

Link to the mike brown interview

yeah he said some stupid shyt in an interview with Rob Markman

link

 

[kdslittlebro]

Maaan. I think the industry legit has a vendetta against Lupe and wanna make sure he doesn't get his flowers. I think i remember him saying Lyor laughed at him when he asked about obtaining his masters. They really didn't expect him to be grounded and forward thinking at such a young age

Watching the Joe Budden-Lupe discussion they had reccently I think Lupe was seriously deprived of a GOAT career all things considering how held back he was.

Hearing him say how he only had his boy in jail to reflect ideas off and was envious of Joe & Slaughterhouse having that equal level of talent around him. Records 10 songs and will feel like only 1 out of them is good enough.

Then considering, he never had a producer to build his own sound like a Dre-Snoop, YG-DJ Mustard, Cash Money-Mannie Fresh etc. All this and imo Lasers is his only blemish album wise and even that had charted singles if i remember right. People have even debated with me that it wasn't even that bad an album

Real ones will always give him his flowers since 1/15

 

[dh86]

After he called Mike Brown a bully, he was never allowed to answer a non music question again