Ukrainian Soldiers get flanked and clapped. WARNING: GRAPHIC

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You said Ukraine would RETAKE CRIMEA! Physically occupy it with their soldiers similar to what happened in Kherson. And you said this would happen by October 22.

Now you’re moving the goal posts and posting strikes Ukraine made in Crimea with their Himars system. But last I checked, Russia is still in Crimea and that bridge Ukraine blew up us has since been repaired.

Once again, you have embarrassed yourself. Let me know when Ukraine physically occupies Crimean land like you said they would in October 22.

Until then you’re a clown. Now go cry to the mods and try to get me banned from the thread like you did in the Russian war threads.

I was wrong about Crimea being taken in Oct. I admit that. Everything else I stand by.
I'm not moving any goal post. I was wrong, plain and simple. However, Ukraine has been hitting Russia in Crimea for months. Can we agree on that?
 

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Solenar pretty much gives Russia all the eastern transport hubs.
Worst part for Ukraine was that wasn't even LPR or DPR army or russian army, but Russian Wagner mercs.
 

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Two white supremacist nations killing each. God is good. Thank the most high.
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Not to mention this war could lead to the full-on destabilization of of the EU...
 

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Not to mention this war could lead to the full-on destabilization of of the EU...

Pretty sure the EU bonds are being strengthened by Russian aggression. They have collectively stopped purchasing Russian fuel for the most part. They are coordinating military and civilian assistance to Ukraine and have again, collectively sanctioned the fukk out of Russia and Belarus. Where exactly to you see this war destabilizing the EU?
 

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Pretty sure the EU bonds are being strengthened by Russian aggression. They have collectively stopped purchasing Russian fuel for the most part, they are coordinating military and civilian assistance to Ukraine and have again, collectively sanctioned the fukk out of Russia and Belarus. Where exactly to you see this war destabilizing the EU?
Oh I'm sure their "Bonds" are tight. As the bonds get tighter, the lifestle of the citizens in each of those countries will get worse.

Let's see how Resilient the EU is in year 5 of this war... Lets see how resilient the EU is with continued immigration from destabilized Middle East, and African nations...

Lets see how resilient the EU is when African countries continue their resistance to European power plays....

The world can be vastly different in the next decade....
 

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I was wrong about Crimea being taken in Oct. I admit that. Everything else I stand by.
I'm not moving any goal post. I was wrong, plain and simple. However, Ukraine has been hitting Russia in Crimea for months. Can we agree on that?

Agreed. Thank you for this statement.
 

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Oh I'm sure their "Bonds" are tight. As the bonds get tighter, the lifestle of the citizens in each of those countries will get worse.

Let's see how Resilient the EU is in year 5 of this war... Lets see how resilient the EU is with continued immigration from destabilized Middle East, and African nations...

Lets see how resilient the EU is when African countries continue their resistance to European power plays....

The world can be vastly different in the next decade....

For sure things can change but I don't see Russian aggression destabilizing the EU. They are better off buying Western politicians like they have been since they were the USSR. That shyt works, their military don't.
 

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It's not that they don't have tactics though
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Ukrainian also left many of their corpses behind despite their retreat suppose to be more organized. That's mean there's even more casualties if we include the ones they manage to evacuate.

But this is a bit of a different scenario than what I was trying to describe. From the reporting, the fighting in Soledar and Bakhmut is intense close quarters fighting similar to the Battle of Stalingrad. Every inch of earth is being fought over. With the amount of losses and density of the fighting, it would be expected that not everyone is going to be recovered.

This is different to what I was alluding to and maybe I should have clarified, where say when Ukrainians have recaptured towns and the fighting is not as intense as Soledar and Bakhmut and they are still just leaving people there to rot. More opportunity to recover them but they don't because the same sentimentality that exists among more western style militaries towards their soldiers doesn't exist in the Russian military. They are treated much more as just numbers on the Russian side. This isn't propaganda, this perspective is stated indirectly in some of their military leaders thinking. It's this perspective for why the Russian seem to really believe in the value of the "first strike" principle as it relates to their belief that it is advantageous for Russia to attack western countries with nuclear strikes first because they believe that westerners have too much sentimentality as it relates to loss of life and the west, in order to not lose more lives, will be very unlikely to strike back out of fear of escalating the exchange to a point even more loss of life occurs. This is an indirect acknowledgement that the west, even in times of war, values the lives of their citizens more than Russia.
 

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Himars isn’t a NATO/US weapon?

M77 Artillery?

Poseidon anti ship missiles?

They’re sending them a patriot system now and I’m sure they’re going to send some Abrams now that the UK decided to send Challenger tanks.

I honestly thought Russia would be doing worse considering they’re fighting an enemy with nato training, intel, and weapons. Not to mention the nato mercs on the ground as well.

A lot of these people just talk about weapons without understanding what comes with team. For weapons to even be a bit effective: logistics have to be perfect, you need proper training since most western weapons aren’t easy to use, battlefield has to be in consideration & then the terrain is also very important.

We all saw how old Russian tanks (which are very light compared to western tanks) were getting stuck in mud from March/April last year due to the terrain in most parts of Ukraine. So, how would American & British tanks which are extremely heavy survive in that terrain? British tanks are also notorious for electrical problems & you need standby technicians to fix them all the time. American tanks on the other hand drink fuel like Hippos drinking water - where’s Ukraine going to get the fuel to run those tanks from?

Also, you need good air cover with helis for tanks & Ukraine hasn’t got many helis right now.

There are videos of Yemeni militants destroying a lot of US Abram tanks used by the Saudis with Iranian anti-tank missiles all over YouTube. And the German Leopard 2 I used to rate due to military videos on YouTube were destroyed in squadrons by ISIS in Syria when the Turks got sexy & decided to use them in Syria. Germans haven’t even forgiven the Turks for exposing the myths about Leopard 2 in battle, in Syria.

All these weapons are just faux wunderwaffe that won’t change anything including Patriot missiles that were utter useless against Iranian missiles in Yemen. Patriot missiles didn’t stop Houthis from bombing Aramco facilities in Saudi Arabia.
 

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They aren't hanging with NATO at all. Russia has not faced a single Western Tank, Western Jet, or Western Long Range Missile. If Russia is struggling with NATO's leftover equipment, just imagine how badly they would struggle if they faced 1,000 Abrams and F-16/22/35. The war would be over in 3 days.
Look up the Battle of Khasham that I linked to above for a real example of direct battle between Russian forces (Wagner ) with US soldiers. It was a massacre. Not one US troop killed and hundreds of Russian and Syria government forces killed. The idea Russia is hanging with the US alone, ergo NATO as a whole is laughable. I'm inclined to believe several individual European countries are behind Russia simply due to being under the umbrella of protection of the United States for so long they have lacked in preparing their own forces


Here is a fun bit audio of the Russian command lamenting how much their shyt got pushed in. The recording starts at 10 mins

 
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