Ukrainian Soldiers get flanked and clapped. WARNING: GRAPHIC

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I stopped posting on these Ukrainian war threads cos I was labelled a Russian troll & got banned twice. And I’m just posting on this one cos you made salient points in your post.

I think the problem with this forum is that:

a). The talking points revolve mostly around American political agenda & you’re not allowed to have any divergent views (even if you’re not American & have a different worldview/understanding of ideological terms & foreign relations) - else you’ll be labelled something you’re not.

b.) Americans are generally very insular/propagandised without much knowledge of global dynamics & very rigid in their views. Also, their understanding of war & military prowess is America bullying defenceless countries with no army that mostly can’t shoot whilst showing off trillions of dollars worth of overpriced equipment (that’s the war porn of the past 3 decades). They don’t understand what a war between peers or near-peer looks like hence they can easily buy the propaganda that Russia is losing. Korean war wasn’t even the US near-peer & US military got routed by Chinese peasants.

I’ve been following the war religiously since it started & it’s the reason why I got back on Twitter & downloaded Telegram. War isn’t fun but it’s an opportunity to actually understand & see the intricacies of a real war in real-time between a near-peer (Ukrainian probably had the 2nd best ready military in Europe going into the war) since none has happened since I was born. And this war has been very interesting throughout.

Make no mistake - Russia is fighting the whole of NATO machine with Ukrainians as the cannon fodders (there are also tens of thousands of soldiers from NATO countries fighting there & SF). The over $100billion in military aid is almost twice Russia’s annual military budget & all of NATO’s satellites & intelligence are at Ukraine’s disposal.

On Russia’s side, I think Putin has been very naive & Russian intelligence has been subpar hence the embarrassment at the beginning of war. He underestimated how far NATO was willing to go with their aims & escalate if necessary. But he has tightened a bit now after Merkel & Hollande came out to say they played him with Minsk Agreement & used the 8yrs to build Ukrainian military into a world class one. Western Europe also exposed themselves as a paper tiger, without any military that’s ready for war (they’re living on past glory). Expensive weapons (both western & Russian) also got exposed since the only Wunderwaffe worth its salt is the shytty ultra-cheap turbofan Iranian drone.

Also, what’s interesting is that regular Russian soldiers aren’t really doing much fighting on the frontlines apart from the VDV (paratroopers), 1st Tank Army & Spetsnaz - they mostly handle artillery or at the 3rd level of defence. Wagner & the separatists are the ones doing most of the fighting. I think this is cos they’re still expecting NATO troops on the ground. But regardless, these guys are getting war-hardened/experienced daily, as they keep adapting to new tactics. And that will be handful when all hell break loose down the line.

Finally, this war has been a good theatre to see that all these modern weapons won’t be much of a factor in the next big war. And wars will always be about trenches, tanks, artillery, intelligence, tactics & morale like the first 2 world wars - unless someone cheats with nuclear weapons. You can only bomb your way to victory against defenceless poor countries - you can’t do that against peer or near-peer countries that have multiple layers of sophisticated SAM batteries & AD.

I aint a fool, modern Russian military history shows nothing but slow starts. They started world war 2 off bad, but ended up being a sleeping giant and overwhelmed one of the best trained armies in history. They never start off well, no matter how much money and military aid Ukraine gets from NATO the Russians will eventually grind them down to dust. Ukraine too light in the ass to beat them in the long term, they have had their successes and are putting up a better fight than most people gave them credit for but this shyt is eventually gonna look like a boxing match from years ago GGG vs Kell Brook.

 

[PewPew]

I stopped posting on these Ukrainian war threads cos I was labelled a Russian troll & got banned twice. And I’m just posting on this one cos you made salient points in your post.

I think the problem with this forum is that:

a). The talking points revolve mostly around American political agenda & you’re not allowed to have any divergent views (even if you’re not American & have a different worldview/understanding of ideological terms & foreign relations) - else you’ll be labelled something you’re not.

b.) Americans are generally very insular/propagandised without much knowledge of global dynamics & very rigid in their views. Also, their understanding of war & military prowess is America bullying defenceless countries with no army that mostly can’t shoot whilst showing off trillions of dollars worth of overpriced equipment (that’s the war porn of the past 3 decades). They don’t understand what a war between peers or near-peer looks like hence they can easily buy the propaganda that Russia is losing. Korean war wasn’t even the US near-peer & US military got routed by Chinese peasants.

I’ve been following the war religiously since it started & it’s the reason why I got back on Twitter & downloaded Telegram. War isn’t fun but it’s an opportunity to actually understand & see the intricacies of a real war in real-time between a near-peer (Ukrainian probably had the 2nd best ready military in Europe going into the war) since none has happened since I was born. And this war has been very interesting throughout.

Make no mistake - Russia is fighting the whole of NATO machine with Ukrainians as the cannon fodders (there are also tens of thousands of soldiers from NATO countries fighting there & SF). The over $100billion in military aid is almost twice Russia’s annual military budget & all of NATO’s satellites & intelligence are at Ukraine’s disposal.

On Russia’s side, I think Putin has been very naive & Russian intelligence has been subpar hence the embarrassment at the beginning of war. He underestimated how far NATO was willing to go with their aims & escalate if necessary. But he has tightened a bit now after Merkel & Hollande came out to say they played him with Minsk Agreement & used the 8yrs to build Ukrainian military into a world class one. Western Europe also exposed themselves as a paper tiger, without any military that’s ready for war (they’re living on past glory). Expensive weapons (both western & Russian) also got exposed since the only Wunderwaffe worth its salt is the shytty ultra-cheap turbofan Iranian drone.

Also, what’s interesting is that regular Russian soldiers aren’t really doing much fighting on the frontlines apart from the VDV (paratroopers), 1st Tank Army & Spetsnaz - they mostly handle artillery or at the 3rd level of defence. Wagner & the separatists are the ones doing most of the fighting. I think this is cos they’re still expecting NATO troops on the ground. But regardless, these guys are getting war-hardened/experienced daily, as they keep adapting to new tactics. And that will be handful when all hell break loose down the line.

Finally, this war has been a good theatre to see that all these modern weapons won’t be much of a factor in the next big war. And wars will always be about trenches, tanks, artillery, intelligence, tactics & morale like the first 2 world wars - unless someone cheats with nuclear weapons. You can only bomb your way to victory against defenceless poor countries - you can’t do that against peer or near-peer countries that have multiple layers of sophisticated SAM batteries & AD.

Breh I definitely need your Twitter so I can read more of your insight. Everything you said was spot on

As someone who immagrated to the US, it does seem like Americans are more prone to the propaganda the state produces. They’ve been fed this image of superiority because we’ve been fighting sheep herders and basket weavers with rusty AKs. I think a lot of American people can’t fathom not being the best. Or a competent near peer enemy like Russia actually being able to fight toe to toe

What’s interesting about your point regarding Ukraine being backed by nato is the fact that the defense minister of Ukraine admitted that they were now pretty much a nato member. He said on an interview that Ukraine is a deafacto member of NATO and it’s their blood being spilled while US provides the weapons. And I say US because the United States is NATO and everyone else in there is a lackey

Ukraine defence minister: We are a de facto member of Nato alliance

Oleksii Reznikov's comments are set to provoke Russia, which frames the war as a battle with the West.

www.bbc.com

I don’t know about you but I think it’s crazy to hear the defense minister of Ukraine openly say they’re basically in NATO because this is exactly what Putin used as the basis to start the war. That and the admission that the Minsk Agreement was made so that Ukraine had time to tool up really shows that shyt is deeper than rap with this war

Lastly, I can’t believe I’m alive at a time in history where I can watch real battles happen from the safety of my couch. It’s like being able to watch the battle of Verdun as it unfolded in real time.

It’s also interesting because a lot of European countries are admitting that they ain’t war ready and getting exposed. Russia fired more artillery in the first couple months of the war than France, UK, and Germany had in stock. I’m learning that all the fancy tools can’t beat good old fashioned 155MM artillery shells and MLRS and Grad systems.

You’re absolutely right that Russia went in real soft, under estimated the Ukrainians completely, and got punched in the fukking mouth. Now they seem to be taking it more seriously so I’m curious what this year holds. Make no mistake, Russia is showing people that they can hang with a NATO trained and equipped army pretty much dolo

AND, I’m sure they’re sharing data with the Chinese and Iranians. So imagine what they’re learning from the conflict too.

 

[bnew]

Breh I definitely need your Twitter so I can read more of your insight. Everything you said was spot on

As someone who immagrated to the US, it does seem like Americans are more prone to the propaganda the state produces. They’ve been fed this image of superiority because we’ve been fighting sheep herders and basket weavers with rusty AKs. I think a lot of American people can’t fathom not being the best. Or a competent near peer enemy like Russia actually being able to fight toe to toe

What’s interesting about your point regarding Ukraine being backed by nato is the fact that the defense minister of Ukraine admitted that they were now pretty much a nato member. He said on an interview that Ukraine is a deafacto member of NATO and it’s their blood being spilled while US provides the weapons. And I say US because the United States is NATO and everyone else in there is a lackey

Ukraine defence minister: We are a de facto member of Nato alliance

Oleksii Reznikov's comments are set to provoke Russia, which frames the war as a battle with the West.

www.bbc.com

I don’t know about you but I think it’s crazy to hear the defense minister of Ukraine openly say they’re basically in NATO because this is exactly what Putin used as the basis to start the war. That and the admission that the Minsk Agreement was made so that Ukraine had time to tool up really shows that shyt is deeper than rap with this war

Lastly, I can’t believe I’m alive at a time in history where I can watch real battles happen from the safety of my couch. It’s like being able to watch the battle of Verdun as it unfolded in real time.

It’s also interesting because a lot of European countries are admitting that they ain’t war ready and getting exposed. Russia fired more artillery in the first couple months of the war than France, UK, and Germany had in stock. I’m learning that all the fancy tools can’t beat good old fashioned 155MM artillery shells and MLRS and Grad systems.

You’re absolutely right that Russia went in real soft, under estimated the Ukrainians completely, and got punched in the fukking mouth. Now they seem to be taking it more seriously so I’m curious what this year holds. Make no mistake, Russia is showing people that they can hang with a NATO trained and equipped army pretty much dolo

AND, I’m sure they’re sharing data with the Chinese and Iranians. So imagine what they’re learning from the conflict too.

you make it sound as if Ukrainian soldiers are 1:1 peers with NATO soldiers.

Ukraine ain't equipped like NATO and the vast majority of their soldiers isn't as trained as NATO soldiers.. they got 1-6month training. thats whats really putting the battery in the back of a lot of countries because they see that if ill-prepared Ukraine can hold their own with big bad russia then russia isn't the military threat they thought they were.

 

[Problematic Pat]

Thank you for posting and showing them the real. Every time I show these clips in the Russia war threads i get blocked and warned because those people still think Russia is out of tanks and missiles. Meanwhile they're shipping heaps of equipment to Belarus and now Ukraine is getting worried. Wagner and Russian forces are fighting an army wholly supplied by NATO and winning. Now NATO is complaining about being low on equipment and munitions.

Ive been watching the battle of Bakhmut since November of last year. Talk shyt all you want about Russia but those boys are learning and fighting back. They've started to bomb Ukrainians electrical infrastructure which is fukking up their shipping and electric needs. Ukraine now has rolling blackouts because of it. Which slows their shipping and logistics.

Not to mention all the bodies Ukraine lost in the Soledar & Bakhmut battles. I would post some videos as well but I always get snitched on and banned when I do.

Thanks for posting the real

These nikkaz are a bunch of fakkits. If this was 1984 they would be eating the propaganda out of the a$$holes of the MSM and intelligence community pushing it with smiles on their faces.

 

[SwizzLake]

What happened

I stopped posting on these Ukrainian war threads cos I was labelled a Russian troll & got banned twice. And I’m just posting on this one cos you made salient points in your post.

I think the problem with this forum is that:

a). The talking points revolve mostly around American political agenda & you’re not allowed to have any divergent views (even if you’re not American & have a different worldview/understanding of ideological terms & foreign relations) - else you’ll be labelled something you’re not.

b.) Americans are generally very insular/propagandised without much knowledge of global dynamics & very rigid in their views. Also, their understanding of war & military prowess is America bullying defenceless countries with no army that mostly can’t shoot whilst showing off trillions of dollars worth of overpriced equipment (that’s the war porn of the past 3 decades). They don’t understand what a war between peers or near-peer looks like hence they can easily buy the propaganda that Russia is losing. Korean war wasn’t even the US near-peer & US military got routed by Chinese peasants.

I’ve been following the war religiously since it started & it’s the reason why I got back on Twitter & downloaded Telegram. War isn’t fun but it’s an opportunity to actually understand & see the intricacies of a real war in real-time between a near-peer (Ukrainian probably had the 2nd best ready military in Europe going into the war) since none has happened since I was born. And this war has been very interesting throughout.

Make no mistake - Russia is fighting the whole of NATO machine with Ukrainians as the cannon fodders (there are also tens of thousands of soldiers from NATO countries fighting there & SF). The over $100billion in military aid is almost twice Russia’s annual military budget & all of NATO’s satellites & intelligence are at Ukraine’s disposal.

On Russia’s side, I think Putin has been very naive & Russian intelligence has been subpar hence the embarrassment at the beginning of war. He underestimated how far NATO was willing to go with their aims & escalate if necessary. But he has tightened a bit now after Merkel & Hollande came out to say they played him with Minsk Agreement & used the 8yrs to build Ukrainian military into a world class one. Western Europe also exposed themselves as a paper tiger, without any military that’s ready for war (they’re living on past glory). Expensive weapons (both western & Russian) also got exposed since the only Wunderwaffe worth its salt is the shytty ultra-cheap turbofan Iranian drone.

Also, what’s interesting is that regular Russian soldiers aren’t really doing much fighting on the frontlines apart from the VDV (paratroopers), 1st Tank Army & Spetsnaz - they mostly handle artillery or at the 3rd level of defence. Wagner & the separatists are the ones doing most of the fighting. I think this is cos they’re still expecting NATO troops on the ground. But regardless, these guys are getting war-hardened/experienced daily, as they keep adapting to new tactics. And that will be handful when all hell break loose down the line.

Finally, this war has been a good theatre to see that all these modern weapons won’t be much of a factor in the next big war. And wars will always be about trenches, tanks, artillery, intelligence, tactics & morale like the first 2 world wars - unless someone cheats with nuclear weapons. You can only bomb your way to victory against defenceless poor countries - you can’t do that against peer or near-peer countries that have multiple layers of sophisticated SAM batteries & AD.

What happened to the Chechnyans? They were heavily involved last winter/spring.

 

[PewPew]

This sounds like some Ghost of Kiev bullshyt.

you make it sound as if Ukrainian soldiers are 1:1 peers with NATO soldiers.

Ukraine ain't equipped like NATO and the vast majority of their soldiers isn't as trained as NATO soldiers.. they got 1-6month training. thats whats really putting the battery in the back of a lot of countries because they see that if ill-prepared Ukraine can hold their own with big bad russia then russia isn't the military threat they thought they were.

You gotta understand, Ukraine has been prepping for this war for 8 years before Russia Invaded. So I do believe theyre pretty close to NATO standards. Especially with reports coming out that there are NATO officers in "ADVISORY ROLES" that are tasked with ensuring the weapons sent over are used the right way. Not to mention all the NATO weapons sent over that are supposed to be game changers that fell flat.

Are they the Marines, Navy Seals, Army Rangers, Delta Force, etc? No, theyre definitely not. But they are trained and wholly supported by all those guys so I think theyre a very lethal and competent fighting force.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

As someone who immagrated to the US, it does seem like Americans are more prone to the propaganda the state produces.

There is open opposition to every administration in the US. No reporters or CEO's falling out of windows. I'll leave it at that.

They’ve been fed this image of superiority because we’ve been fighting sheep herders and basket weavers with rusty AKs.

Sounds like you are describing Russia.

I think a lot of American people can’t fathom not being the best.

If you are talking military then, um....yeah?

What other nation has warehouses full of armor battalions just chilling on every continent except Antarctica? The US can equip an army anywhere in the world as fast as it's logistical chain will allow. No other nation on Earth in all of its history could make that claim let alone act on it. The US is supplying almost 90% of the total military aid to Ukraine if I'm not mistaken and that's just old shyt laying around.

The U.S. spends an obscene amount of money on it's military because it never wants to fathom not being "the best".

Or a competent near peer enemy like Russia actually being able to fight toe to toe

Are you laughing as you type this drivel?

What’s interesting about your point regarding Ukraine being backed by nato is the fact that the defense minister of Ukraine admitted that they were now pretty much a nato member. He said on an interview that Ukraine is a deafacto member of NATO and it’s their blood being spilled while US provides the weapons. And I say US because the United States is NATO and everyone else in there is a lackey

And?

I’m learning that all the fancy tools can’t beat good old fashioned 155MM artillery shells and MLRS and Grad systems.

stfu

Sinking of the Moskva - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Russia is showing people that they can hang with a NATO trained and equipped army pretty much dolo

Dolo is the only part you got right.

AND, I’m sure they’re sharing data with the Chinese and Iranians. So imagine what they’re learning from the conflict too.

Exactly what the fukk do China and Iran know about Ukraine? You think they have on the ground intel that will help Putin?

What is wrong with you?

 

[Bonk]

What happened


What happened to the Chechnyans? They were heavily involved last winter/spring.

They’re still there but most of them are in Luhansk as part of the defensive line. I saw a video of Magomed Tushayev (the Chechen SF general Ukrainians claimed they killed last February) in some trenches they’re building there a couple of weeks ago & some of them are part of the reserves in Donetsk.

Apart from some their forces that are integrated with the Russian army - Chechens haven’t really been on the frontline like that since war started except Mariupol. They mostly do mop up operations.

 

[Dr. Acula]

This sounds like some Ghost of Kiev bullshyt.

Maybe, but...it is war.

A lot of unbelievable shyt happens. Also, it's not unprecedented. This exact scenario happened a lot during WWI trench warfare. From the sounds of things it sounds like a lot of urban battling occurring now is close quarters and intense that leads to situations like above. Also one thing not covered enough is that a lot of the soldiers being recruited so far have been from poor ethnic minorities in Russia. These are viewed as disposable people by the state. They don't even provide them with proper military burial. They are treated like trash.

Also, Russia makes it no secret that they view their soldiers as disposable and their military structure does not value the individual soldier like western militaries. So for example, in the US military, if a fellow soldier goes down they make an effort to administer aide and save their comrades. This is encouraged in our forces because it build camaraderie and moral among a close knit group of soldiers. They are more likely to fight harder to protect their own life and their fellow soldiers life. In the Russian military structure this idea does not exist to the same degree. Plenty of stories of Ukrainian forces seeing dead Russian soldiers just lying about with plenty of time and opportunity where they could be retrieved and returned home but they aren't.

So, maybe it's cap, but it's not out of character for the Russian military either. Read about the battle in 2017 between US and against some Russian and Syria government forces where the commander let hundreds of soldiers die before finally crying uncle.

Battle of Khasham - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

When you have orders similar to Stalin's Order 277 where firing squads are set up to kill retreating soldiers, most of these soldier are either criminals like a lot that make up Wagner forces or are ethnic minorities who Putin is probably ok with dying en masse, you're not going to have a situation where leaders care much about the individuals lives and lead to sending them to the "meat grinder". If they were more desirable populations staffing their forces then they would probably care more about the lives of these soldiers.

 

[Dr. Acula]

Mentioned a lot of stuff without sources in the above which feels weird.

Here are sources to back up things I mentioned.
Poor ethnic minorities bearing the brunt of intense battles
Russia’s ethnic minorities lament the war in Ukraine

Russian soldiers just left to rot

Retreating Russians leave their comrades' bodies behind

LYMAN, Ukraine (AP) — Russian troops abandoned a key Ukrainian city so rapidly that they left the bodies of their comrades in the streets, offering more evidence Tuesday of Moscow's latest military defeat as it struggles to hang on to four regions of Ukraine that it illegally annexed last week.

apnews.com

Wagner recruits convicts


More on ethnic minorities being disproportionately sent to the front lines

 

[Chronic]

Maybe, but...it is war.

A lot of unbelievable shyt happens. Also, it's not unprecedented. This exact scenario happened a lot during WWI trench warfare. From the sounds of things it sounds like a lot of urban battling occurring now is close quarters and intense that leads to situations like above. Also one thing not covered enough is that a lot of the soldiers being recruited so far have been from poor ethnic minorities in Russia. These are viewed as disposable people by the state. They don't even provide them with proper military burial. They are treated like trash.

Also, Russia makes it no secret that they view their soldiers as disposable and their military structure does not value the individual soldier like western militaries. So for example, in the US military, if a fellow soldier goes down they make an effort to administer aide and save their comrades. This is encouraged in our forces because it build camaraderie and moral among a close knit group of soldiers. They are more likely to fight harder to protect their own life and their fellow soldiers life. In the Russian military structure this idea does not exist to the same degree. Plenty of stories of Ukrainian forces seeing dead Russian soldiers just lying about with plenty of time and opportunity where they could be retrieved and returned home but they aren't.

So, maybe it's cap, but it's not out of character for the Russian military either. Read about the battle in 2017 between US and against some Russian and Syria government forces where the commander let hundreds of soldiers die before finally crying uncle.

Battle of Khasham - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

When you have orders similar to Stalin's Order 277 where firing squads are set up to kill retreating soldiers, most of these soldier are either criminals like a lot that make up Wagner forces or are ethnic minorities who Putin is probably ok with dying en masse, you're not going to have a situation where leaders care much about the individuals lives and lead to sending them to the "meat grinder". If they were more desirable populations staffing their forces then they would probably care more about the lives of these soldiers.

It's not that they don't have tactics though

Ukrainian also left many of their corpses behind despite their retreat suppose to be more organized. That's mean there's even more casualties if we include the ones they manage to evacuate.

 

[Bunchy Carter]

My tax dollars are going to some nikkas losing

 

[Bonk]

I aint a fool, modern Russian military history shows nothing but slow starts. They started world war 2 off bad, but ended up being a sleeping giant and overwhelmed one of the best trained armies in history. They never start off well, no matter how much money and military aid Ukraine gets from NATO the Russians will eventually grind them down to dust. Ukraine too light in the ass to beat them in the long term, they have had their successes and are putting up a better fight than most people gave them credit for but this shyt is eventually gonna look like a boxing match from years ago GGG vs Kell Brook.

I like the boxing analogy. And I understand that Russia always start slow (they started slow in Syria as well). However, in this social media & PR age - especially when you need a lot of international support due to how one-sided the propaganda is, they started too poorly & gave too much ammunition to the other side.

Good intelligence/surveillance for 8yrs should’ve shown them the level of fortifications & preparedness of the Ukrainians. And you don’t run into a country like that unprepared with no aim apart from the wishful thinking that a pumpfake would make them go to the negotiating table. NATO is very vicious & they don’t compromise. Putin of all people ought to know that.

Russia invaded with less than 100k troops & instantly tried to cover an area you need at least 1million troops for hence logistics was terrible. And they didn’t even invade with mostly Russian regulars - more than half of the troops were conscripts, Rosgvardia (US equivalent of SWAT & National Guard) & Chechen/Tuvan/Dagestan irregulars. The only elite Russians were the few heroic VDV that took the airport & held it, 1st Tank Army that went to Chernobyl/Sumy & the Russian marines that took Kherson & Melitopol. And subsequently the O-group from central Russia that came later & helped in taking Luhansk & Mariupol.

Putin talks learning from Stalin’s mistakes against the Nazis but he sure didn’t show that at the beginning. They went to Kiev without any aim of taking it or regime change. Left every infrastructure all over Ukraine intact including power & left soldiers isolated on large swathes to be ambushed/killed needlessly. Those were avoidable if Putin weren’t so naive that Ukrainians would negotiate. A clear aim of taking Kiev & regime change & securing Donbas would’ve been smoother & they would’ve pulled it off.

PR age is like Wilder vs Fury promo before they fought. Wilder is known for flashy KOs despite the fact he never fought anyone decent & everything about him as a boxer is fundamentally wrong. Fury on the is a herky-jerky boring boxer that always start slow & boxes on the back foot. To the casual watching the promo - it’s always gonna be easy KO victory for Wilder. Only boxing buffs would know Wilder stands no chance. That’s the same thing with the PR of this war. The slow start was a very bad advertisement for the capabilities of Russian military & they didn’t just start slow, they started with no aims & trusting the west to negotiate. And that falls on Putin.

 

[Piff Perkins]

The problem with pro-Russian or alleged pro-Russian positions on this is simple. You've been wrong about every single part of this conflict, every step since the beginning. You claimed the US war bullshytting, intel was fake, etc. Then you said Russia would capture Kyiv within days. Then you said Kyiv was surrounded and would fall any day. Then you started talking about biological weapons. Now, after nearly a year of the US decimating Russia with a small percentage of the military budget, I'm supposed to believe the US doesn't know what it's doing, Ukraine will fall soon, etc etc.

Got nothing to do with western propaganda. We all watched Russia fail for nearly a year. The idea that people can now turn around and say "well Putin's intel wasn't that great but..." is laughable. It wasn't a matter of being great or not. It was fake information he was given by officials who tell him what he wants to hear. Which is why they also told him an attack would topple Kyiv within a week. Which is why, months into the campaign, they were still rolling out threats to Poland that had no bearing on reality - because those talking points were written beforehand under the assumption that Ukraine would be captured quickly, and that leverage would allow for realistic threats against Poland/EU until they agreed to negotiate.

I've seen nothing to convince me Russia has truly turned this around or the US is stumbling. Maybe Russia figures it out. We'll see. But let's not rewrite what has been happening since last February.

 

[PewPew]

There is open opposition to every administration in the US. No reporters or CEO's falling out of windows. I'll leave it at that.



Sounds like you are describing Russia.



If you are talking military then, um....yeah?

What other nation has warehouses full of armor battalions just chilling on every continent except Antarctica? The US can equip an army anywhere in the world as fast as it's logistical chain will allow. No other nation on Earth in all of its history could make that claim let alone act on it. The US is supplying almost 90% of the total military aid to Ukraine if I'm not mistaken and that's just old shyt laying around.

The U.S. spends an obscene amount of money on it's military because it never wants to fathom not being "the best".



Are you laughing as you type this drivel?



And?



stfu

Sinking of the Moskva - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Dolo is the only part you got right.



Exactly what the fukk do China and Iran know about Ukraine? You think they have on the ground intel that will help Putin?

What is wrong with you?

Aint you the guy who said Ukraine would retake Crimea by October? You been wrong. Dont think we dont see you cheerleading and posting all those weak ass memes. You bring 0 value to any war thread, just silly freaking jokes.

Until Ukraine retakes Crimea like you said, you opinion on anything war related will forever be bullshyt