Ukrainian Soldiers get flanked and clapped. WARNING: GRAPHIC

[Bonk]

Breh I definitely need your Twitter so I can read more of your insight. Everything you said was spot on

As someone who immagrated to the US, it does seem like Americans are more prone to the propaganda the state produces. They’ve been fed this image of superiority because we’ve been fighting sheep herders and basket weavers with rusty AKs. I think a lot of American people can’t fathom not being the best. Or a competent near peer enemy like Russia actually being able to fight toe to toe

What’s interesting about your point regarding Ukraine being backed by nato is the fact that the defense minister of Ukraine admitted that they were now pretty much a nato member. He said on an interview that Ukraine is a deafacto member of NATO and it’s their blood being spilled while US provides the weapons. And I say US because the United States is NATO and everyone else in there is a lackey

Ukraine defence minister: We are a de facto member of Nato alliance

Oleksii Reznikov's comments are set to provoke Russia, which frames the war as a battle with the West.

www.bbc.com

I don’t know about you but I think it’s crazy to hear the defense minister of Ukraine openly say they’re basically in NATO because this is exactly what Putin used as the basis to start the war. That and the admission that the Minsk Agreement was made so that Ukraine had time to tool up really shows that shyt is deeper than rap with this war

Lastly, I can’t believe I’m alive at a time in history where I can watch real battles happen from the safety of my couch. It’s like being able to watch the battle of Verdun as it unfolded in real time.

It’s also interesting because a lot of European countries are admitting that they ain’t war ready and getting exposed. Russia fired more artillery in the first couple months of the war than France, UK, and Germany had in stock. I’m learning that all the fancy tools can’t beat good old fashioned 155MM artillery shells and MLRS and Grad systems.

You’re absolutely right that Russia went in real soft, under estimated the Ukrainians completely, and got punched in the fukking mouth. Now they seem to be taking it more seriously so I’m curious what this year holds. Make no mistake, Russia is showing people that they can hang with a NATO trained and equipped army pretty much dolo

AND, I’m sure they’re sharing data with the Chinese and Iranians. So imagine what they’re learning from the conflict too.

I don’t post about the war of Twitter - I just follow updates there from both sides.

I’d say not all Americans cos they’re tons of Americans who’re well versed in global dynamics & don’t buy into the media propaganda. But the vast majority of the loud ones are vacuous propagandised dolts that exist in a bubble.

I’m a Brit & I didn’t even know how weak the UK military & weapons were until this war started. Granted I knew it’s a tad weaker than it used to be but this war showed it’s very weak. The same is applicable to the French. UK & France are only two countries you would count as being relatively strong in Europe & with the Germans when it comes to making sophisticated weapons. Interestingly, all those weapons have been utter useless in Ukraine & even SAS & French Special Forces boots in Ukraine have been next to useless. Fighting a peer or near peer exposes a lot of things.

Europe is very weak militarily & economically right now & these countries are just living off past glory & media propaganda. If African countries were governed by good leaders, since most of them are still directly/indirectly colonised - this is the time to finally break the yoke of colonialism.

Yes, Ukraine has been NATO since 8yrs in an unofficial capacity hence they went for the kill when Russia invaded & tried to blitz them. If it had been 2014 Ukraine - they would’ve surrendered & negotiated like they did in Crimea. All their command centre & everything have done in this war is NATO. And there are tens of thousands of NATO boots on the ground - both regular & mercenaries. Poles & Americans make up the largest contingent. Then you have NATOphile Georgians.

I’m pretty sure there are Chinese & Iranians there collating data. Apparently, on FT, there are Iranians in Sevastopol (a good spot to blend in with the Tatars). And the Chinese could easily blend in with the Tuvans to see what the battlefield is like since Ukraine is basically NATO at this point.

 

[PewPew]

I don’t post about the war of Twitter - I just follow updates there from both sides.

I’d say not all Americans cos they’re tons of Americans who’re well versed in global dynamics & don’t buy into the media propaganda. But the vast majority of the loud ones are vacuous propagandised dolts that exist in a bubble.

I’m a Brit & I didn’t even know how weak the UK military & weapons were until this war started. Granted I knew it’s a tad weaker than it used to be but this war showed it’s very weak. The same is applicable to the French. UK & France are only two countries you would count as being relatively strong in Europe & with the Germans when it comes to making sophisticated weapons. Interestingly, all those weapons have been utter useless in Ukraine & even SAS & French Special Forces boots in Ukraine have been next to useless. Fighting a peer or near peer exposes a lot of things.

Europe is very weak militarily & economically right now & these countries are just living off past glory & media propaganda. If African countries were governed by good leaders, since most of them are still directly/indirectly colonised - this is the time to finally break the yoke of colonialism.

Yes, Ukraine has been NATO since 8yrs in an unofficial capacity hence they went for the kill when Russia invaded & tried to blitz them. If it had been 2014 Ukraine - they would’ve surrendered & negotiated like they did in Crimea. All their command centre & everything have done in this war is NATO. And there are tens of thousands of NATO boots on the ground - both regular & mercenaries. Poles & Americans make up the largest contingent. Then you have NATOphile Georgians.

I’m pretty sure there are Chinese & Iranians there collating data. Apparently, on FT, there are Iranians in Sevastopol (a good spot to blend in with the Tatars). And the Chinese could easily blend in with the Tuvans to see what the battlefield is like since Ukraine is basically NATO at this point.

Great call out. We are thinking and seeing the same things.

@Orbital-Fetus This is how an adult who actually follows the war responds. This is actually insight. Not that weak shyt you do. Ukraine WILL NOT retake Crimea like you said. Feel free to go snitch on me to the mods like you always do. You are, and always will be, a complete Buffon

 

[PewPew]

It's not that they don't have tactics though

Ukrainian also left many of their corpses behind despite their retreat suppose to be more organized. That's mean there's even more casualties if we include the ones they manage to evacuate.

Great call out as well. Really, theyve been doing the same play since Aleppo. Cut off supply routes, surround the town, and take it in pieces.

 

[Chronic]

The problem with pro-Russian or alleged pro-Russian positions on this is simple. You've been wrong about every single part of this conflict, every step since the beginning. You claimed the US war bullshytting, intel was fake, etc. Then you said Russia would capture Kyiv within days. Then you said Kyiv was surrounded and would fall any day. Then you started talking about biological weapons. Now, after nearly a year of the US decimating Russia with a small percentage of the military budget, I'm supposed to believe the US doesn't know what it's doing, Ukraine will fall soon, etc etc.

Got nothing to do with western propaganda. We all watched Russia fail for nearly a year. The idea that people can now turn around and say "well Putin's intel wasn't that great but..." is laughable. It wasn't a matter of being great or not. It was fake information he was given by officials who tell him what he wants to hear. Which is why they also told him an attack would topple Kyiv within a week. Which is why, months into the campaign, they were still rolling out threats to Poland that had no bearing on reality - because those talking points were written beforehand under the assumption that Ukraine would be captured quickly, and that leverage would allow for realistic threats against Poland/EU until they agreed to negotiate.

I've seen nothing to convince me Russia has truly turned this around or the US is stumbling. Maybe Russia figures it out. We'll see. But let's not rewrite what has been happening since last February.

Westerners has been claiming Russia going to run out of missiles since April, they're wrong, Russia keep firing missiles every week.

Westerners claimed Iranian drones won't make huge impact on the war, they're wrong, those drones have taken out the majority of Ukrainian power grids.

Westerners claimed russian mobilization won't make huge impact on the battlefield, they're wrong, Russia currently advancing on Donetsk and they're not even using their full strength since they send many of their units to Belarus.

Westerners claimed Russia won't be able to make any new weapons within month of their sanctions, they're wrong, Russia still producing new T-90M and refurbishing new T-72B3.

Westerners claimed Russians will rise up and topple Putin, they're wrong. In fact now they try to demonize all Russians as savages because ordinary Russians do not act like what they wanted them to do.

Not saying everything is good for Russia, but saying everything Westerners said are accurate is BS.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Aint you the guy who said Ukraine would retake Crimea by October? You been wrong. Dont think we dont see you cheerleading and posting all those weak ass memes. You bring 0 value to any war thread, just silly freaking jokes.

Until Ukraine retakes Crimea like you said, you opinion on anything war related will forever be bullshyt

Ukraine is and has been striking in Crimea for months. Ukraine will take Crimea.

And I don't post weak memes.

 

[PewPew]

Ukraine is and has been striking in Crimea for months. Ukraine will take Crimea.

And I don't post weak memes.

Oh really? When buddy? Will they do it by October like you said last year, clown?

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Westerners has been claiming Russia going to run out of missiles since April, they're wrong, Russia keep firing missiles every week.

At civilian structures like cowards.
And lettuce not forget them begging N. Korea for missiles and artillary.

Westerners claimed Iranian drones won't make huge impact on the war, they're wrong, those drones have taken out the majority of Ukrainian power grids.

I don't think anyone was downplaying the danger from Iranian drones.

Westerners claimed russian mobilization won't make huge impact on the battlefield, they're wrong, Russia currently advancing on Donetsk and they're not even using their full strength since the send many of their units to Belarus.

I don't recall anyone saying that mobilization won't make an impact. 300,000 men is 300,000 men.

Westerners claimed Russian won't be able to make any new weapons within month of their sanctions, they're wrong, Russia still producing new T-90M and refurbishing new T-72B3.

Where are they?

Westerners claimed Russians will rise up and topple Putin, they're wrong. In fact now they try to demonize all Russians as savages because ordinary Russians do not act like what they wanted them to do.

Again, I don't recall this ever being said. Everyone knows the Russian people are beaten down and don't have it in them to revolt.

 

[2legit]

You’re absolutely right that Russia went in real soft, under estimated the Ukrainians completely, and got punched in the fukking mouth. Now they seem to be taking it more seriously so I’m curious what this year holds. Make no mistake, Russia is showing people that they can hang with a NATO trained and equipped army pretty much dolo

They aren't hanging with NATO at all. Russia has not faced a single Western Tank, Western Jet, or Western Long Range Missile. If Russia is struggling with NATO's leftover equipment, just imagine how badly they would struggle if they faced 1,000 Abrams and F-16/22/35. The war would be over in 3 days.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Oh really? When buddy? Will they do it by October like you said last year, clown?

You have access to the internet yet still say dumb shyt like this?

2022 Crimea attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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July​

On the morning of 31 July, a drone with an explosive device attacked the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol. 6 people were injured. Due to the attack on the city, all festivities on the occasion of Navy Day were cancelled. Ukrainian officials denied involvement in the attack, but pointed out the weakness of Russia's air defense system in Crimea.

August​

Further information: 2022 Novofedorivka explosions
On 9 August, a series of large explosions occurred at the Saky airbase in the city of Novofedorivka, Crimea. Reportedly, one person was killed and 13 were injured. 7 planes were destroyed and 3 were damaged, according to satellite imagery. The military base had been seized by Russian forces during the 2014 annexation of Crimea. At first Ukraine denied any responsibility with presidential aide, Mykhailo Podolyak saying "Of course not. What do we have to do with this?" Later, the commander of Ukrainian forces, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi claimed that it had been a Ukrainian rocket attack.

On 16-17 August, the Armed Forces of Ukraine allegedly carried out a series of acts of sabotage in the Dzhankoy district at an ammunition depot near the village of Majskoye and at an electricity substation in Dzhankoy itself. Two people were injured.[14] According to the mayor of Melitopol, Ivan Fedorov, following the explosions, the occupying authorities of Crimea began an evacuation.[15] with around 2,000 people being reportedly evacuated. Sergey Aksyonov, one of the heads of the Russian authorities in crimea, announced the containment of a zone with a radius of 5 km from the epicenter of the explosion and the evacuation of the population from this zone.

On the morning of August 21, explosions were heard in Sevastopol, Crimean authorities claimed that it was the work of air defense.[16] On the next day, explosions rang out again in the city, the occupation authorities announced that a drone had been shot down. On August 23, several explosions were heard, the anti-aircraft missile system also went off near the city, the governor of Sevastopol, Mikhail Razvozhayev, said that a drone was shot down over the sea. On August 26, the anti-aircraft defense system was activated in the village Novoozerne near Yevpatoria.

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[Orbital-Fetus]

September​

On September 7, several explosions rang out in Yevpatoria. The occupation authorities of the Russian Federation in the region announced the activation of air defense and the destruction of several drones. On September 21, a maritime drone was discovered on Soldatsky Beach in Kozacha Bay, Sevastopol. It was examined, then towed out to sea and blown up. On September 26, a series of explosions occurred in Yalta, Gurzuf and Simferopol, anti-air systems allegedly went off during the explosions.

October​

Further information: Crimean Bridge explosion
On 1 October, there were explosions at the Belbek military airport near Sevastopol, the air defense system allegedly shot down a drone in the area. On 8 October at around 6:00am, an explosion occurred on the Crimean bridge. It caused two lanes of the roadway to collapse and tanks on a train on the rail bridge to catch fire. Later in the day a single lane for motor vehicles was opened with alternating directions and a ferry provided for heavy goods vehicles. Rail traffic also recommenced. The attack on the bridge was claimed by Putin to be the reason for the October 2022 missile strikes on Ukraine. On 27 October, a power plant in Balaklava, Sevastopol region, was reportedly attacked, causing minor damage, no casualties were reported.

October​

Further information: Crimean Bridge explosion
On 1 October, there were explosions at the Belbek military airport near Sevastopol, the air defense system allegedly shot down a drone in the area. On 8 October at around 6:00am, an explosion occurred on the Crimean bridge. It caused two lanes of the roadway to collapse and tanks on a train on the rail bridge to catch fire. Later in the day a single lane for motor vehicles was opened with alternating directions and a ferry provided for heavy goods vehicles. Rail traffic also recommenced. The attack on the bridge was claimed by Putin to be the reason for the October 2022 missile strikes on Ukraine. On 27 October, a power plant in Balaklava, Sevastopol region, was reportedly attacked, causing minor damage, no casualties were reported.

Drone attack on Sevastopol​

November​

On November 22, several explosions were reported on Sevastopol, witnesses reported that anti-air systems activated, maritime traffic had to be stopped as a result. local officials later reported that 2 drones had been destroyed during the alleged attack, and that another attack had been repelled over the black sea, no casualties or significant damage were reported.

On 29 October the Sevastopol Naval Base, occupied by Russia, was attacked by unmanned surface vehicles and aerial drones. According to the Russian TASS, at 4:20 am on October 29, a strong explosion sounded, after which several more "claps" were heard. Videos began to circulate in Telegram channels showing black smoke over Sevastopol and explosions could be heard.[28] Nine UAVs and seven USVs took part in the attack, according to Russian officials. GeoConfirmed analysts believe that between six and eight drones participated in the attack on Russian ships and that they hit at least three ships; two naval drones were most likely destroyed. One of the ships that appeared to be damaged in videos was the Admiral Makarov, Russia's Black Sea Fleet new flagship, following the sinking of the Moskva.

Following the attacks the Russian authorities shut down broadcast from the city's surveillance cameras, saying that they "give the enemy an opportunity to detect the city's defense systems",[34] and prohibited entry of boats into the Sevastopol Bay. Russia accused Ukraine and the United Kingdom of being involved in the preparation of the attacks, with Russian representatives saying that the attack was "carried out under the leadership of British specialists who are in the city of Ochakiv (Mykolaiv region) of Ukraine", Russian authorities also claimed that the same unit of "British specialists" was involved in the "terrorist act in the Baltic Sea", when the gas pipelines "Nord Stream" and "Nord Stream - 2" were blown up. The UK Ministry of Defence responded, saying Russia was "peddling lies on an epic scale". After the attack, Russia suspended its participation in the Black Sea Grain Initiative for four days.[27] Grain ships continued to sail from Ukraine despite the Russian announcement. Before these events, Ukraine had warned about possible Russian plans to withdraw from the agreement.

December​

On December 10, explosions were reported in Sevastopol, anti-air systems reportedly activated.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

 

[PewPew]

They aren't hanging with NATO at all. Russia has not faced a single Western Tank, Western Jet, or Western Long Range Missile. If Russia is struggling with NATO's leftover equipment, just imagine how badly they would struggle if they faced 1,000 Abrams and F-16/22/35. The war would be over in 3 days.

Himars isn’t a NATO/US weapon?

M77 Artillery?

Poseidon anti ship missiles?

They’re sending them a patriot system now and I’m sure they’re going to send some Abrams now that the UK decided to send Challenger tanks.

I honestly thought Russia would be doing worse considering they’re fighting an enemy with nato training, intel, and weapons. Not to mention the nato mercs on the ground as well.

 

[PewPew]

September​

On September 7, several explosions rang out in Yevpatoria. The occupation authorities of the Russian Federation in the region announced the activation of air defense and the destruction of several drones. On September 21, a maritime drone was discovered on Soldatsky Beach in Kozacha Bay, Sevastopol. It was examined, then towed out to sea and blown up. On September 26, a series of explosions occurred in Yalta, Gurzuf and Simferopol, anti-air systems allegedly went off during the explosions.

October​

Further information: Crimean Bridge explosion
On 1 October, there were explosions at the Belbek military airport near Sevastopol, the air defense system allegedly shot down a drone in the area. On 8 October at around 6:00am, an explosion occurred on the Crimean bridge. It caused two lanes of the roadway to collapse and tanks on a train on the rail bridge to catch fire. Later in the day a single lane for motor vehicles was opened with alternating directions and a ferry provided for heavy goods vehicles. Rail traffic also recommenced. The attack on the bridge was claimed by Putin to be the reason for the October 2022 missile strikes on Ukraine. On 27 October, a power plant in Balaklava, Sevastopol region, was reportedly attacked, causing minor damage, no casualties were reported.

October​

Further information: Crimean Bridge explosion
On 1 October, there were explosions at the Belbek military airport near Sevastopol, the air defense system allegedly shot down a drone in the area. On 8 October at around 6:00am, an explosion occurred on the Crimean bridge. It caused two lanes of the roadway to collapse and tanks on a train on the rail bridge to catch fire. Later in the day a single lane for motor vehicles was opened with alternating directions and a ferry provided for heavy goods vehicles. Rail traffic also recommenced. The attack on the bridge was claimed by Putin to be the reason for the October 2022 missile strikes on Ukraine. On 27 October, a power plant in Balaklava, Sevastopol region, was reportedly attacked, causing minor damage, no casualties were reported.

Drone attack on Sevastopol​

November​

On November 22, several explosions were reported on Sevastopol, witnesses reported that anti-air systems activated, maritime traffic had to be stopped as a result. local officials later reported that 2 drones had been destroyed during the alleged attack, and that another attack had been repelled over the black sea, no casualties or significant damage were reported.

On 29 October the Sevastopol Naval Base, occupied by Russia, was attacked by unmanned surface vehicles and aerial drones. According to the Russian TASS, at 4:20 am on October 29, a strong explosion sounded, after which several more "claps" were heard. Videos began to circulate in Telegram channels showing black smoke over Sevastopol and explosions could be heard.[28] Nine UAVs and seven USVs took part in the attack, according to Russian officials. GeoConfirmed analysts believe that between six and eight drones participated in the attack on Russian ships and that they hit at least three ships; two naval drones were most likely destroyed. One of the ships that appeared to be damaged in videos was the Admiral Makarov, Russia's Black Sea Fleet new flagship, following the sinking of the Moskva.

Following the attacks the Russian authorities shut down broadcast from the city's surveillance cameras, saying that they "give the enemy an opportunity to detect the city's defense systems",[34] and prohibited entry of boats into the Sevastopol Bay. Russia accused Ukraine and the United Kingdom of being involved in the preparation of the attacks, with Russian representatives saying that the attack was "carried out under the leadership of British specialists who are in the city of Ochakiv (Mykolaiv region) of Ukraine", Russian authorities also claimed that the same unit of "British specialists" was involved in the "terrorist act in the Baltic Sea", when the gas pipelines "Nord Stream" and "Nord Stream - 2" were blown up. The UK Ministry of Defence responded, saying Russia was "peddling lies on an epic scale". After the attack, Russia suspended its participation in the Black Sea Grain Initiative for four days.[27] Grain ships continued to sail from Ukraine despite the Russian announcement. Before these events, Ukraine had warned about possible Russian plans to withdraw from the agreement.

December​

On December 10, explosions were reported in Sevastopol, anti-air systems reportedly activated.

You said Ukraine would RETAKE CRIMEA! Physically occupy it with their soldiers similar to what happened in Kherson. And you said this would happen by October 22.

Now you’re moving the goal posts and posting strikes Ukraine made in Crimea with their Himars system. But last I checked, Russia is still in Crimea and that bridge Ukraine blew up us has since been repaired.

Once again, you have embarrassed yourself. Let me know when Ukraine physically occupies Crimean land like you said they would do by October 2022.

Until then you’re a clown. Now go cry to the mods and try to get me banned from the thread like you did in the Russian war threads.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Himars isn’t a NATO/US weapon?

M77 Artillery?

Poseidon anti ship missiles?

NATO crumbs.

Just wait.

Yall keep saying "Russia is holding back, they aren't even really trying."
Exactly what do you think NATO is doing? The bare fukking minimum, and that's been enough to jam up the Russian war machine. Russia really, really, really don't want smoke with NATO.

Crumbs got 'em caught up as it is.

Just wait.

Ukr:

Spoiler

NATO:

Spoiler

 

[Yzak]

Europe is very weak militarily & economically right now & these countries are just living off past glory & media propaganda. If African countries were governed by good leaders, since most of them are still directly/indirectly colonised - this is the time to finally break the yoke of colonialism.

Been thinking a lot about this, but do Africans have weapons on the same level as NATO? They could break free from the puppets that control them, but can they defend off NATO attacking them?