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dude was probably texting random thots/prostitutes and didn't want it to get out. i don't blame him and the NFL has no fukking right to search his phone anyway. i wasn't aware that roger gooddell was a judge issuing search warrants.
Update: NFL upholds Tom Brady 4 Game Suspension
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dude was probably texting random thots/prostitutes and didn't want it to get out. i don't blame him and the NFL has no fukking right to search his phone anyway. i wasn't aware that roger gooddell was a judge issuing search warrants.
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And you know this how? Were you one those prostitutes?no
dude was probably texting random thots/prostitutes and didn't want it to get out. i don't blame him and the NFL has no fukking right to search his phone anyway. i wasn't aware that roger gooddell was a judge issuing search warrants.
After a court of law upholds the suspension (which they 100% will) what will you deluaional ma$$holes claim next? The legal system is rigged against a white golden boy QB?
The commissioner will state clearly why a team/player is punished especially if cheating was involved.
"This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Roger Goodell on Spygate in 2007.
Broncos cap violations were not claimed by the commissioner of undermining fair play within the sport or the game. It was a business issue.
No other reason was mentioned for why the punishments were stuff but likely because it was a repeated offense.
Everything I'm saying is true. Refute my points with facts and stop sticking your chest out for Brady like you're trying to prove something.
No wonder you're in the red I can see clearly why.
Hold this next neg while you're at it.
Carlos Huerta
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I don't need to refute shyt. They were already fined twice, you hypocrite. I've asked you four times if they would have been able to keep Elway and Davis - you just won't answer the obviousThe commissioner will state clearly why a team/player is punished especially if cheating was involved.
"This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Roger Goodell on Spygate in 2007.
Broncos cap violations were not claimed by the commissioner of undermining fair play within the sport or the game. It was a business issue.
No other reason was mentioned for why the punishments were stuff but likely because it was a repeated offense.
Everything I'm saying is true. Refute my points with facts and stop sticking your chest out for Brady like you're trying to prove something.
No wonder you're in the red I can see clearly why.
Hold this next neg while you're at it.
Oh, and please - whatever you do - not another neg. Anything but that. 'Ol emotional bytch. Broncos would have ZERO rings if they didn't cheat
It hasn't been proven, they suspended him on the theory he may have been generally aware
I don't need to refute shyt. They were already fined twice, you hypocrite. I've asked you four times if they would have been able to keep Elway and Davis - you just won't answer the obvious
Oh, and please - whatever you do - not another neg. Anything but that. 'Ol emotional bytch. Broncos would have ZERO rings if they didn't cheat
We're done here kiddo I clearly see why a fukk boy like you is in the red. Go troll somewhere else please.
wait so you agree he's guilty ? But just Think the NFL overstepping their boundaries ?
Brady told them from the jump he was not giving them his phone. Wells was like "fine, then give me all your contacts." The NFL that spent 100 days before giving a ruling and then 35 days after the appeal suddenly now does not have the time to follow up with like 30 people. fukk out of here.so he has regularly cycled phones throughout the years..but still has one that covers exactly up until the month in question and the one after was destroyed? am i reading that right?
FUrthermore:
"The conduct at issue here is also very different from the ball-warming incident in Minnesota last year, in which a Carolina Panthers ball attendant was observed warming a ball on the Vikings' sideline; there was no evidence of any intentional attempt to violate or circumvent the rules, no player involvement, and no effort to conceal the ball attendant's conduct. As (NFL executive VP of football operations) Mr. (Troy) Vincent testified, the ball never got into the game and the matter "was addressed immediately."
In Goodell's bizarro world, video evidence = no evidence and a text message with the world deflator = direct, hard evidence. What other reason would the attendant be heating the ball than the circumvent the rule? Come on guy. This whole thing is nonsense.
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Carlos Huerta
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you been done. Still afraid to answer the question. You wouldn't even admit to being a Denver fan for like 2 pages
Carlos Huerta
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On September 17, 2004, the league announced that, for the second time in three years, the Denver Broncos were fined nearly a million dollars and would, once again, lose their third-round draft pick because of salary cap violations between 1996 and 1998.
Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis contended that the Broncos' circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and 1998 seasons.
In the years where they didn't follow the cap rules, the Broncos' top player, quarterback John Elway, was paid around 5.4% of the legal cap space, which was 1.2% less than the next closest team. Even more telling, Elway’s cap charges in the Broncos' 1997 and 1998 Super Bowl seasons were just $2.1 and $2.6 million respectively. By comparison Miami Dolphins quarterback Dan Marino, who would be the most logical comparison, had cap charges of $4.3 and $7.6 million. The implication is that Elway took a relatively low cap hit, but received outside-the-cap funds to compensate for that.
The Broncos explanation for this infraction goes something like this: owner Pat Bowlen was trying to build a new stadium for the Broncos and was short on cash. So, he asked Elway and running back Terrell Davis to forfeit some of their paycheck now and in return he would pay them back plus interest after the season.
They like to refer to this cheat as their little accounting snafu. Their accounting excuse doesn't matter, however, only the fundamental integrity of the game does. A rule is a rule and you can't chose to break it because something comes up. That is clear-cut cheating which is why they were penalized so heavily by the league for it.
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The Broncos were fined on two separate occasions for salary cap shenanigans between 1996 and 1998. The first punishments were announced in 2001 and the second in 2004. Their fines totaled a staggering $1,918,000 and they lost a total of two third-round draft picks.
It is more probable than not that the Broncos got a significant competitive advantage (real or potential) from this rule breaking. The entire league followed the salary cap rules during those years and the Broncos did not. They also happened to win the Super Bowl twice during those compromised years
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No I don't agree he's guilty. You're asking me how I'll feel after all this shakes if it doesn't go his way, and I'm telling you, in terms of his guilt, the only party (the NFL) that is going to rule on that has already made their ruling and I think it's b.s.
Nothing from the Fed case will change that.
Brady told them from the jump he was not giving them his phone. Wells was like "fine, then give me all your contacts." The NFL that spent 100 days before giving a ruling and then 35 days after the appeal suddenly now does not have the time to follow up with like 30 people. fukk out of here.
FUrthermore:
"The conduct at issue here is also very different from the ball-warming incident in Minnesota last year, in which a Carolina Panthers ball attendant was observed warming a ball on the Vikings' sideline; there was no evidence of any intentional attempt to violate or circumvent the rules, no player involvement, and no effort to conceal the ball attendant's conduct. As (NFL executive VP of football operations) Mr. (Troy) Vincent testified, the ball never got into the game and the matter "was addressed immediately."
In Goodell's bizarro world, video evidence = no evidence and a text message with the world deflator = direct, hard evidence. What other reason would the attendant be heating the ball than the circumvent the rule? Come on guy. This whole thing is nonsense.
You skipped this part:
As (NFL executive VP of football operations) Mr. (Troy) Vincent testified, the ball never got into the game and the matter "was addressed immediately."
What does that have to do with intentionally trying to change the ball pressure? Dawg, stop trolling for a second because I might have to block you like these other idiots I block in TLR all the time if you keep this up and you're a better poster than this. Just say "I hate tom Brady and I don't give a fukk about the facts" and we'll be cool. It's terrible watching you make a fool of yourself. The attorney that indicted PETE ROSE is sitting here saying this is nonsense.
Pete Rose’s Investigator Says Tom Brady was ‘Ambushed’ by Goodell (video)
Excerpt:
“It appears that they ambushed Tom Brady,” he said.
Dowd argues that Tom Brady is being convicted and suspended for an offense that he had no notice of.
“He was not suspended for failing to produce his telephone. If you read The Wells Report, it was based on alleged tampering and the text information. It wasn’t until he got on appeal that he was advised for the first time that his failure to produce the phone was a separate charge -- and that is a gross violation of fundamental fairness and due process if you will,” he said.
Dowd speculates that the report was weak.
“The scientific evidence had been gutted by all kinds of independent experts and the standard they used was ridiculous and most of all, I’m not sure what this is all about, apparently every team does this, and every officiating crew has their own way of measuring it -- so, this is a case without any standards at all,” he said.
Brady told them from the jump he was not giving them his phone. Wells was like "fine, then give me all your contacts." The NFL that spent 100 days before giving a ruling and then 35 days after the appeal suddenly now does not have the time to follow up with like 30 people. fukk out of here.
FUrthermore:
"The conduct at issue here is also very different from the ball-warming incident in Minnesota last year, in which a Carolina Panthers ball attendant was observed warming a ball on the Vikings' sideline; there was no evidence of any intentional attempt to violate or circumvent the rules, no player involvement, and no effort to conceal the ball attendant's conduct. As (NFL executive VP of football operations) Mr. (Troy) Vincent testified, the ball never got into the game and the matter "was addressed immediately."
In Goodell's bizarro world, video evidence = no evidence and a text message with the world deflator = direct, hard evidence. What other reason would the attendant be heating the ball than the circumvent the rule? Come on guy. This whole thing is nonsense.
I was commenting on the 'i regularly cycle my phones' yet he had one that covered data exactly up until November but the one that covered what the NFL was asking for primarily was destroyed. I am not speaking on the evidence in and of itself..the science or any of that.
The protocol of this proceeding that the NFL has been following has been suspect at best..poor at worst...and clearly mishandled overall. Granted.
However, the foot-note you sourced started with "after the hearing"...but the confirmation of the phone destruction wasn't made until the day of the hearing...the phone was destroyed right before the day of the first interview with Wells..and apparently at the hearing in June, Brady's certified agents essentially said, 'oh yeah he destroyed it, but you guys can try can retrieve the information from other people if you want'. They were not given the phone or information before the ruling so they only had the 35 days after to track it all down. With a body like the NFL, that is probably ample time but I can not speak on the technicalities of that (contacting phone companies, people, getting permission etc). Seems like the NFL were like alright, we can settle if you want.. but if you don't want to, we can use the time until your court filing/hearing to do all that. The timing of the destruction of the phone gave the NFL ammo in strengthening just cause in discipline towards Brady, irrelevant to Brady having to turn the phone over to the NFL.
I am not VMR Esq. so Ill yield to counselors at law from here on out
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Goodell's about to lose in court. Again.