USA TODAY: "Tech Jobs: minorities have degrees, but dont get hired"

[WeDemBoyz]

What about asians? they're minorities too

Asians are over represented

 

[WeDemBoyz]

This is very key....

One of the key problems: There are elite computer science departments that graduate larger numbers of African-American and Hispanic students, but they are not the ones where leading companies recruit employees. Stanford, UC-Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, UCLA and MIT are among the most popular for recruiting by tech companies, according to research by Wired magazine.

.....which begs the question. Are elite universities doing enough in locating and admitting high achieving minority students? After all, that's no easy task when minorities go to school in an oppressed education system.

 

[Serious]

Asians are over represented

Yep it's like, you want see more black doctors, scientist, engineers....It's starts at the ground level, there needs to be more an increased overhaul of brothers and sisters trying to enter these fields.

 

[WeDemBoyz]

Yep it's like, you want see more black doctors, scientist, engineers....It's starts at the ground level, there needs to be more an increased overhaul of brothers and sisters trying to enter these fields.

Most indians working in SV are immigrants with H-1B visas. Most east asians in SV are american born

 

[No_bammer_weed]

that is a dumb article, where does it show any evidence that black stem graduates are not being hired?

you cant compare the number of blacks in silicon valley to a NATIONWIDE graduation rate, thats stupid, especially when you are talking about single digit percentage points that fall within the margin of error, how do these articles make it through the editing process?

When you say the article is "dumb", you really mean that its violating your belief system so therefore you're mindlessly attacking it.

The fact of the matter is that employment rates for people of color at tech companies are lacking, and lagging behind graduation rates in these fields, and there is SIGNIFICANT data to support this. Studies have shown that black engineering grads have an unemployment rate over 10%, and an underemployment rate of over 30%.

Articles like these are combating the racial idea that black and brown folks arent pursuing stem/engineering degrees at an acceptable enough frequency, which somehow explains their low rate of employment. It reminds me of how there was this prevailing idea that black people didnt have the mental ability to play QB in the NFL, and it took significant outside pressure to force organizations and coaches to stop discriminating against blacks and give them a shot.

Its obvious these companies dont have faith it in hiring certain people over others, and Im amazed someone who claims to be black like yourself would take issue with encouraging companies to give blacks and hispanics an opportunity.

 

[theworldismine13]

Read my last post, and what are you suggesting?

the story is based on awful math, first its comparing silicon valley to a national average, secondly its basing its assertion because of the 4.5% of minority graduates compared with 2.5% of silicon valley minorities, but as anybody with a passing understanding of statistics knows there is a margin of error in statistics like that, so for example if we assume a +-1 margin error in both stats, the actual gap could be 1.5% to 5.5% or the gap could be 3.5 to 3.5% which is zero, there is no way to tell and there is no way to reach any conclusion using those numbers

the stats and logic are completely wrong and completely useless, its amazing that a national publication would put out something like that with shoddy math

so im saying the whole headline is bullshyt, black stem graduates are not having trouble finding jobs

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

When you say the article is "dumb", you really mean that its violating your belief system so therefore you're mindlessly attacking it.

The fact of the matter is that employment rates for people of color at tech companies are lacking, and lagging behind graduation rates in these fields, and there is SIGNIFICANT data to support this. Studies have shown that black engineering grads have an unemployment rate over 10%, and an underemployment rate of over 30%.

Articles like these are combating the racial idea that black and brown folks arent pursuing stem/engineering degrees at an acceptable enough frequency, which somehow explains their low rate of employment. It reminds me of how there was this prevailing idea that black people didnt have the mental ability to play QB in the NFL, and it took significant outside pressure to force organizations and coaches to stop discriminating against blacks and give them a shot.

Its obvious these companies dont have faith it in hiring certain people over others, and Im amazed someone who claims to be black like yourself would take issue with encouraging companies to give blacks and hispanics an opportunity.

There is still a prevailing idea that blacks are not capable of playing QB in the NFL.... it didn't go anywhere breh.

 

[WeDemBoyz]

the story is based on awful math, first its comparing silicon valley to a national average, secondly its basing its assertion because of the 4.5% of minority graduates compared with 2.5% of silicon valley minorities, but as anybody with a passing understanding of statistics knows there is a margin of error in statistics like that, so for example if we assume a +-1 margin error in both stats, the actual gap could be 1.5% to 5.5% or the gap could be 3.5 to 3.5% which is zero, there is no way to tell and there is no way to reach any conclusion using those numbers

the stats and logic are completely wrong and completely useless, its amazing that a national publication would put out something like that with shoddy math

so im saying the whole headline is bullshyt, black stem graduates are not having trouble finding jobs

You're fighting this. You have your own agenda, and nothing will change your mind. The data was collected from the Computing Research Association. The issue is not finding jobs; the issue is finding jobs at leading tech companies, as the first paragraph states.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

This is very key....



.....which begs the question. Are elite universities doing enough in locating and admitting high achieving minority students? After all, that's no easy task when minorities go to school in an oppressed education system.

if they were going to be transparent with stepping it up to get the best minority students, you stand the real possibility of minorities with degrees from those universities being written off as nothing more than unworthy "diversity" admits/graduates to some of these employers.

Are High Schools,parents and communities doing enough to funnel minorities into the best universities for STEM ?

 

[theworldismine13]

This is very key....



.....which begs the question. Are elite universities doing enough in locating and admitting high achieving minority students? After all, that's no easy task when minorities go to school in an oppressed education system.

no that isnt the question, the question is are black students and black families doing enough to get into these schools

 

[theworldismine13]

You're fighting this. You have your own agenda, and nothing will change your mind. The data was collected from the Computing Research Association. The issue is not finding jobs; the issue is finding jobs at leading tech companies, as the first paragraph states.

yeah i def have my own agenda, the agenda is to increase the number of black stem graduates, without relying on diversity programs and affirmitave action

 

[No_bammer_weed]

There is still a prevailing idea that blacks are not capable of playing QB in the NFL.... it didn't go anywhere breh.

Oh fa sho...no doubt. I didnt mean to suggest blacks dont currently face discrimination in areas like QB and coaching, but just that it took significant pressure to integrate these areas because of the racial perceptions that blacks didnt have the mental capacities to perform. These ideas are still with us like you say, but not to the extent they were a couple of decades ago where it was almost a law that blacks were not allowed the opportunity to coach or QB. That took people challenging the system.

 

[WeDemBoyz]

no that isnt the question, the question is are black students and black families doing enough to get into these schools

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[WeDemBoyz]

yeah i def have my own agenda, the agenda is to increase the number of black stem graduates, without relying on diversity programs and affirmitave action

At least you're honest.

 

[theworldismine13]

When you say the article is "dumb", you really mean that its violating your belief system so therefore you're mindlessly attacking it.

The fact of the matter is that employment rates for people of color at tech companies are lacking, and lagging behind graduation rates in these fields, and there is SIGNIFICANT data to support this. Studies have shown that black engineering grads have an unemployment rate over 10%, and an underemployment rate of over 30%.

Articles like these are combating the racial idea that black and brown folks arent pursuing stem/engineering degrees at an acceptable enough frequency, which somehow explains their low rate of employment. It reminds me of how there was this prevailing idea that black people didnt have the mental ability to play QB in the NFL, and it took significant outside pressure to force organizations and coaches to stop discriminating against blacks and give them a shot.

Its obvious these companies dont have faith it in hiring certain people over others, and Im amazed someone who claims to be black like yourself would take issue with encouraging companies to give blacks and hispanics an opportunity.

articles like this are made to perpetuate a way of thinking that black people cant rise without help from other people and create a situation where instead of black people sitting around and talking about what we are going to do to fix the and control the problem, we sit around talking about what other people need to do, in other words we are putting our future in other people's hands

throwing crumbs at black people through pressuring corporations to hire a few black people will do nothing over the long run