Video: Stoicism and how to manage and overcome disrespect. Does the Black community need more stoics?

[BlackJesus]

Growing up, I felt there was nothing worse than being disrespected in the Black community. Someone disrespects you in high school either you respond with a good mouthpiece or physically. Even in sports I saw guys who would lose on a play resort to fighting to get even with the other person. Yet when I went to a mostly white high school disrespect was usually played off or not taken as seriously.

Even now as a grown man I struggle to forget disrespect. Even little shyt on a day to day basis will have me thinking about it later. Consuming too much of my time and energy.



I think our community has to learn tolerate disrespect better. As the video points out that doesn’t necessarily mean you have to allow yourself to be disrespected by their are better ways to respond to it.


What do y’all think?

As evidenced by how grown men react on this here forum, they definitely need more emotional management skills

 

[Womb Raider]

Stoicism, invented by the Greeks, was literally taught to Greek and Roman slaves as a means of control

It’s funny that I had no idea of the origin of stoicism but it always seemed to be a way of giving up control, depending on the scenario.

I don’t think being stoic towards disrespect is helpful. Resorting to violence isn’t helpful either. Sometimes it’s worth laughing/shrugging it off, other times it’s better to give it back verbally.

 

[BlackJesus]

Yeah I ain’t listening to these goofy ass booty warrior Greeks tell me how to be a man in 2023

Ancient greeks were more serious in 500 BC than black americans in crisis are in 2023. “Goofy” is the wrong word my boy

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Stoicism, invented by the Greeks, was literally taught to Greek and Roman slaves as a means of control

Thank God you slapped them with facts, because this thread was gonna be wild.

 

[BlackJesus]

I don’t think being stoic towards disrespect is helpful. Resorting to violence isn’t helpful either. Sometimes it’s worth laughing/shrugging it off, other times it’s better to give it back verbally.

That reflects your cultural background and circumstances. Black people in the US are in the bottom caste so any disrespect is taken as a serious affront to basic dignity

 

[RageKage]

EVERYBODY needs more of this and less homotional outbursts. You cant control others but u can choose the time, place and method of your own reaction.

 

[BaggerofTea]

There is a time and place for everything.

 

[Peter Popoff]

This is taught in Christianity. I have been practicing these values for the last few years.

 

[RageKage]

This is taught in Christianity. I have been practicing these values for the last few years.

I imagine these lessons are taught in all religions as it speaks to peace of mind

 

[RickyDiBiase]

I think our community has to learn tolerate disrespect better.

Yet look who you chose to name yourself after

 

[Gloxina]

sure, why not?

Of course a common criticism of stoicism is that it can be manipulated to push the idea to "staying in your place" and not rocking the boat too much. That's why tech bros/entrepreneurs like stoicism so much. Someone talking salty can be brushed off most of the time, but sometimes conflict is unavoidable. Sometimes force is the only way to solve a problem.

Yea I’m definitely not conflict avoidant, but stoicism is definitely necessary in day-to-day life. Some shyt isn’t worth disturbing your peace or mission.

 

[Jazzy B.]

It doesn’t work in real life

If you do not speak up then you will be ALWAYS treated like a CHUMP.

Being DIRECT is always the best thing you can do. Because it actually causes a change.

 

[Jazzy B.]

That stoicism stuff on youtube is all tied into being an "alpha" male and other corny manosphere shyt

That’s how they keep their SUCKAS ROPED IN and on the DRIP FEED. Ol remain “stoic” and never speak up anything which means you’ll have to ask me for advice/help about the situation which I can then charge/gain something out of you for doing so

 

[RageKage]

Recent example of this working in practice. The father talking to police about his 11 year old daughter. He could have lost his shiz, become belligerent, maybe even gotten arrested but he didn't. Video of the interaction he had with police, he definitely would not have shared.
Since he didn't, he now has public sympathy on his side and police are being investigated into their response to his concern. He didn't let his feelings get the better of him and may get some satisfaction from this in the end.

 

[JQ Legend]

I’m a fan of the ideology of stoicism but a lot of stuff in this vid is way easier said than done. And doing shyt like trying to understand why someone randomly disrespected you and what you could have done to make them disrespect you when it’s clearly their own issues and/or them just seeing you as an easy target sound like some bullshyt to me

I do agree a lot of it gets blown out of proportion and taken to levels it doesn’t have to go to tho.