Vitamin D supplements 'advised for everyone'

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Just like Black people should use sunscreen.
Just because your risk of skin cancer is lower because you have a darker complexion, doesn't mean you shouldn't take care of yourself.
Adequate sun exposure > foods that contain Vitamin D > supplements
Depends where u leave and the smog... I garentee if u check your levels that u are low.
 

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one of the very few things that was out of range for me on my past physicals was my vitamin D levels...my doctor is like you should get 8,000 IUs a day...so i went and found a bottle of Vitamin D that was10,000 IUs per serving...and no more out of range for me
 

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nothing wrong with that :yeshrug:

We just gotta keep it civil.

Anyway, the experience I have in the bio field is my associates in Biotechnology.
Not much of anything as far as knowledge goes, but I have a bit of foundation and interests in the area that keeps me reading up in the bio/chem field. While I may not have much experience, I think us having this argument is still educational and more conversations should take place on this forum and others.

Now, while I'm not saying the figures for the 2016 study/article are wrong, I'm saying I'd like to see what the studies say after their done. It mentions experiments are still ongoing and that vitamin D might help with other things.

I'm saying that specifically targeting blacks in these experiments should be our focus. There are studies that acknowledge the tests that have been used on us have been said to be inadequate when testing for blacks vitamin levels, often implying that blacks have inadequate intake. So, what we should desire from these studies is more clarity on whether the current recommendations for increase supplements will surely help, be money wasted if we just excrete the excess vitamin, or if there are more serious side effects, and is this a problem to do with basing tests off 25-(OH) vitamin-D levels.

Blacks genetically have low levels of the binding protein for that form of Vitamin-D.

The two articles below give two different perspectives on the issue.

Does vitamin D testing misdiagnose African-Americans? | Vitamin D Council

(He cites a study that vitamin D was much higher in the Massai, but they are heavy milk drinkers with the same type of vitamin D as whites)

Vitamin D


Anyway, that my view on it for now.
And I appreciate how you been civil with your responses, btw.

Good discussion helps everybody learn.

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I believe this is a white people problem
:comeon: This is actually more of a black people problem..white people get enough from 5 minutes of exposure in these northern climates whereas black people would need way more time..in winter its almost definite that dark skinned people cant get enough from sunshine even if they were out all day.

There have been studies linking low vitamin d with depression,heart disease, diabetes,cancer all show increased incidence in Black people

Why Black People Need More Vitamin D
 

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:comeon: This is actually more of a black people problem..white people get enough from 5 minutes of exposure in these northern climates whereas black people would need way more time..in winter its almost definite that dark skinned people cant get enough from sunshine even if they were out all day.

There have been studies linking low vitamin d with depression,heart disease, diabetes,cancer all show increased incidence in Black people

Why Black People Need More Vitamin D


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So, what we should desire from these studies is more clarity on whether the current recommendations for increase supplements will surely help, be money wasted if we just excrete the excess vitamin, or if there are more serious side effects, and is this a problem to do with basing tests off 25-(OH) vitamin-D levels.
it costs pennies per day to supplement, I am not going to wait when studies like this are already out

An estimate of the global reduction in mortality rates through doubling vitamin D levels. - PubMed - NCBI

Vitamin D supplementation for prevention of mortality in adults. - PubMed - NCBI

Vitamin D effects on musculoskeletal health, immunity, autoimmunity, cardiovascular disease, cancer, fertility, pregnancy, dementia and mortality-a... - PubMed - NCBI

Vitamin D: beyond bone. - PubMed - NCBI

The pleiotropic effect of vitamin d. - PubMed - NCBI
 

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:ehh:

As is your right, so fair enough.

I"m hoping the new studies also address the impact of diet and diseases associated with Vitamin D deficiency in the AA community. Probably times outside as well.

As for the studies, I noticed the second one showed great results with D3 than D2 or the 25(OH) vitamin D (aka calcitriol) and the first study showed 7.6% of African females drop in mortality rates.

:jbhmm:

I'll look into that.
 

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Just like Black people should use sunscreen.
Just because your risk of skin cancer is lower because you have a darker complexion, doesn't mean you shouldn't take care of yourself.
Adequate sun exposure > foods that contain Vitamin D > supplements

Do you know how much lower? In comparison to whites in the same area?

CDC - Skin Cancer Rates by Race and Ethnicity
 
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I believe this is a white people problem
No. Its a black people problem way more. Dumbass.

Your melanin LITERALLY prevents you from producing more Vitamin D in many cases.

Some of you all are so fukking headstrong its probably killing you.
 

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No. Its a black people problem way more. Dumbass.

Your melanin LITERALLY prevents you from producing more Vitamin D in many cases.

Some of you all are so fukking headstrong its probably killing you.
I'm not going into this, and start an argument, but can you prove this?

Show me where you learned this at

And for people saying vitamin d is a problem for blacks, ask yourself this question.

If it is so bad for us, why do we have the highest bone density?

All the other thing they try to connect with vitamin d, aren't real connections, just correlations, but it could be much more things that cause the cancers. What we do know is vitamin d directly effects calcium, and phosphate, absorption. Again, not a black problem, but it is for whites. No racism, just stating facts.
 
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