He's my current favorite TAAN was amazing. I just wish he didn't care what people thought. I think it fukks with the music he makes.
Wale Been in the Game for Almost a Decade without a Definitive Sound/Style
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I said what I said if you don't appreciate that album something is seriously wrong with you .
That album maybe had 2 ok songs at best .
Black heros , golden salvation , 88 , Jesus piece , heavens afternoon and love hate thing >>>>> most albums .
Don't tell these idiots that doe .
straightcash
All Star
Honestly, you had Chicago basically jack the whole Trap sound via the Drill movement, and made it their own sound to the point where people accuse NY'ers of sounding like Chicago... even though NY had more of a direct association to Trap than Chi did thru Frenchie, Waka, Wooh.
DMV definitely been influenced by both North and South, but it shouldn't be an obstacle in embracing a sound for themselves and making their own movement(s) around it.
Zee Scribe
Pro
Kendrick was called conscious without having to go all in. J. Cole led with Work out and then power trip. Cole did the exact same thing and was given the benefit of the doubt. Fans never gave Wale that. Granted, Cole made his image around being forced to make those records. He only did that after they worked.I sense the same kind of tug of war with his music that you're eluding to here.
However, I have to say... I don't really think he pushes too hard for his non-commercial "pro-black" shyt. I remember him at the BFC throwing shade at Kendrick's 'i' song when it released. Saying something like, "I've been saying shyt like that... I been wanting to uplift people and just be like I love myself sometimes" yada yada yada...
The thing is, Kendrick went all in with i. It was his lead single, he was fully committed... Wale always gets wishy washy with his releases man. When has he ever dropped a strong positive record as a lead single and STUCK WITH IT? He always falls back on the safe side of things and just goes with his basic formula for radio spins and doesn't step out his comfort zone... then he gets angry when he sees his peers do something that doesn't appeal to radio/commercial appeal or whatever... but it's like breh... you had that idea/concept or message before them, but you didn't portray yourself in that light with it. So in a lot of ways, he's in his own way with how he's handled his own career.
No reason Wale couldn't be doing shyt like that Black Gold song and running Shea Butter Twitter instead of this weak ass Fashion Week song
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OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
You are right, people can do both. Just not Wale. For all the reasons you basically listed.
Song would've been better with a Cole verse.
Disagree with OP AMBITION, TAAN, and The Gifted were solid efforts. For some reason the masses haven't fully embraced him. I still think his A&R/management is trash when it comes to properly rolling out albums and picking the best singles.
Disagree with OP AMBITION, TAAN, and The Gifted were solid efforts. For some reason the masses haven't fully embraced him. I still think his A&R/management is trash when it comes to properly rolling out albums and picking the best singles.
It's not a beautiful thing when he hasn't really pushed the envelope in any particular category musically.
Nobody in here is even hating on Wale. If anything, there's plenty of posts where people are posting songs where they felt like he was on to something and would like to see him continue on with.All you did was trigger wale haters
You said a whole lot of nothing
G eazy is a well respected figure in the bay
And has songs with raekwon ross philthy rich & many other respected guys
And he's not bad not sure where the hate for this guy comes from is it because hes white
Wale is nothing but a fun loving rapper that can shine on any type of beat from trap, r&b, soul, pop, boom bap to even gangsta beats
Which is the reason you knuckle heads claim he has no style or lane
He's basically the every rappers rapper
Knowing that Wale wants critical acclaim as much as he does, just makes me laugh when I see him feature G-Eazy on a single for an album that's releasing in less than a month. It's like how warped is his thought process to think that collab is going to get him what he wants. What audience is he going for? What market does Wale want?
I don't know, neither do you
Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
Who said he had too though, dude makes really good music. He does his own thing and every time creates a new box if you want to look at it like that.
Like I said he does the go-go thing, he does the poetry thing and could make joints like that PYT that get radio play. He does so many things that he is like a jack of all trades does many things very well. He may not be pushing the envelope in your opinion but he is a dope song writer imo which is why he stuck around so long.
Still FloW
Gawd Of Shinobi
I get what OP is saying, but I think Wales biggest issue isn't his sound, it's his inability to let things go, he whines too much about irrelevant things, that's why people troll him so much online cause they know he's gonna react.
Musically brehh is AMAZING, lyrically and poetically he's In a class of his own, like cole said he needs to be grateful he's this far in his career and just drop classic
Musically brehh is AMAZING, lyrically and poetically he's In a class of his own, like cole said he needs to be grateful he's this far in his career and just drop classic
I had to dig around for this post of mine, but when Wale debuted that 'My PYT' song he dropped a video for it that had all these fine women recording themselves on their phones singing the song... on some like snapchat type steez. I thought he was on to something with the idea.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/19295363/
It could have been a real organic movement/video concept that we never seen done before really. The video was dope cause it was raw footage and the women were fine as fukk in it. He could have came up with a hashtag, had chicks tagging that shyt, singing the song, and then lets say every week, he pulls new footage from the girls tagging and singing the song and he releases a new fresh video for it each time... But then what happens? He removes and deletes this video, and re-releases the commercial standard format version for it... just tells me he just doesn't believe in his own creativity with certain things
That shyt would have been GENIUS. My PYT is a catchy ass song, I feel like it was a missed opportunity... like the shyt came out last year, and his album still ain't drop
I wish I downloaded that original video now, I can't find it anywhere online
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/19295363/
Yo, this is a pretty smart video/marketing idea. He should try and keep the fan footage like this coming and make multiple variations of this with different chicks footage each time. Those IG thots would do it just to try and get on there. This is pretty impressive and I love seeing artists think outside the box with stuff like this.
It could have been a real organic movement/video concept that we never seen done before really. The video was dope cause it was raw footage and the women were fine as fukk in it. He could have came up with a hashtag, had chicks tagging that shyt, singing the song, and then lets say every week, he pulls new footage from the girls tagging and singing the song and he releases a new fresh video for it each time... But then what happens? He removes and deletes this video, and re-releases the commercial standard format version for it... just tells me he just doesn't believe in his own creativity with certain things
That shyt would have been GENIUS. My PYT is a catchy ass song, I feel like it was a missed opportunity... like the shyt came out last year, and his album still ain't drop
I wish I downloaded that original video now, I can't find it anywhere online
You realize your post doesn't really disagree with the premise of my thread right?
'Jack of All Trades... Master of None'
I just think Wale is better than trying to appeal to G-Eazy's fanbase for a new album when he's been in the game for as long as this.
I think all of these guys got to where they did because they ultimately made enough music that pointed back to their ROOTS. Yes, they had lead singles and "bangers" along the way, but they never left too far away from what their core fanbase initially rocked with them for.
The scale for Wale hasn't been the same, he's kind of been predictable with his albums formula every time out. He tried bringing it back with TAAN... and even though that album is good, it didn't sound as good conceptually as the original mixtapes.
I feel like the same thing kind of happened to Joe Budden and Pump It UP. A lot of people didn't check for Joe after that shyt, and forever associated him with that song. Same kind of thing happened with Wale's song with GaGa... now he's had a lot more hits after that song, but neither Cole or Kendrick continued to put out those pop singles repeatedly like Wale has.