Was "Hardhome" the best episode of Game of Thrones? "Night's Watch, with me!"

[saturn7]

lady stoneheart. She has jaime (after he left cersei for good) and his big bytch captured and she is gonna make her kill him at least that where they left off. She wants anybody involved with the red wedding dead. even tho jaime had nothing to do with it.

"Jaime Lannisters sends his regards"

Roose Bolton was such a slimeball and great character.

 

[DJ Paul's Arm]

The way they wrote Cersei being killed was bullshyt. I wanted to see that bytch suffer.

 

[The Plug]

"Jaime Lannisters sends his regards"

Roose Bolton was such a slimeball and great character.

lol yea, that little detail was changed in the show because lady stoneheart wouldn't exist in the show. It's cool going back in the books and seeing the little changes that turn into big deals in the different mediums.

The way they wrote Cersei being killed was bullshyt. I wanted to see that bytch suffer.

yea, they lowkey fukked up in the show when they let her blow up everyone she didn't like and had no consequences. At least the book is implying that shyt will not go her way at all. Varris is the one that killed kevan and pycelle in the book and not her. In the book, even though she didn't fully trust Kevan, at least he was the second person she trusted the most in kings landing.

 

[Vandelay]

Only season that was bad was season 8. There were misses in previous seasons, but season 8 was the only truly bad season and that is because it was rushed; should've been 12 episodes. Even Dany going rogue could've been played well had it been written differently. Everything that was put in season 8 could've worked had it been fleshed out more. That's why Game of Thrones worked as a show because it had time to breath. 6 episodes, most of which were an hour not the 90 minutes they communicated were too short to wrap up all of the arcs and story that they needed to wrap up.

 

[MegaManX]

There's some grievances that are worthy but this isn't one of them. Jon Snow isn't supposed to kill the Night King. If he does why did Arya spend all that time training to be a master assassin?

Everybody in the show had their positions to play.

Nikka you high? Assassin's kill highly protected POLITICAL figures. That is the whole fukking point of assassination. Cerci supposed to die by her hand.

Jon been fighting the Night King for fukkING 7 GOT DAMN SEASONS. CAME FACE TO FACE WITH HIM 5 fukkING TIMES. LOST ALL HIS FRIENDS TO HIM. GOT RESURRECTED TO FIGHT HIM. WAS THE ONLY PURPOSE OF HIM EVEN EXISTING AFTER DEATH. Jesus.

 

[Shadow King]

Nikka you high? Assassin's kill highly protected POLITICAL figures. That is the whole fukking point of assassination. Cerci supposed to die by her hand.

Jon been fighting the Night King for fukkING 7 GOT DAMN SEASONS. CAME FACE TO FACE WITH HIM 5 fukkING TIMES. LOST ALL HIS FRIENDS TO HIM. GOT RESURRECTED TO FIGHT HIM. WAS THE ONLY PURPOSE OF HIM EVEN EXISTING AFTER DEATH. Jesus.

Assassin kill who they are contracted to kill. Cersei is a different topic. Again, Arya's revenge quest was fulfilled and she had to serve a purpose greater than her own agenda. If Jon came face to face with him 5 times and didn't kill him maybe he wasn't supposed to. Jon Snow's purpose was to be King.

Like I said y'all have an issue with Jon Snow not winning.

 

[Shadow King]

You're looking at this from a modern point of view.

Robb was raised in the aftermath of Robert's Rebellion. He'd know the dangers of taking betrothals lightly.

He was also clearly at least 20 in the show.
He was a king at war, against a family with more men with better armor than he had.

Marrying a traveling nurse gaining nothing, is the stupidest thing he could've done, and Robb was never said to be stupid.
And it legit surprises me that you're defending that bs, since it speaks to how little the showrunners respected viewers intelligence, that they gave us that.

Human is trying to have your cake and eating it too.

Human would've been to sleep with her, taking her as a mistress while also marrying the Frey girl because she came with 4k men.

There was no logic behind that development. Nothing in regards to how his lords would react, what marriages any potential children could possibly make since their mother is damn near commonborn.

The writers gave us a lump of dry doodoo, and you're calling it gold?

Nah b.

I'm not looking at anything from a modern perspective. Humans who are callous and calculated would marry the Frey and girl and keep the nurse as the mistress. Robb is not that. Ned would've let go of the love of his life and married the Frey girl and be faithful out of honor. Again, Robb is not his father.

Everything you've said in this description of Ned tells me that you missed the entire point of Ned Stark.

Ned lived his life in opposition to by the book honor.
Saving Jon Snow? Not by the book.
Raising his b*stard with his family? Not by the book.
Arguing with his king for the life of the daughter of the man who murdered his father and brother? Not by the book.
Telling Cersei what he knew and giving her the chance to run? Not by the book.

Ned used the clout and currency of his public persona to always try and do the ultimately right thing by the many.

Any time someone says Ned Stark was more focused on honor than anything else, I wonder if we read the same books or watched the same show.

"Do you nikkas listen to music or just skim through it?"

The saving and raising of Jon Snow is the one time an oath made to someone, his sister, compromised his character though it was for something greater than himself.

I did not read the books which I think detaches me from this idea that the show has to go tit-for-tat with the books.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Highkey I hope those two hacks get blackballed from Hollywood from ever running a major show or movie again

 

[Losttribe]

YOURE JUST NOW WATCHING THIS?



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I just watched all the seasons last month for the 1st time.
Had no interest previously

 

[CHICAGO]

I just watched all the seasons last month for the 1st time.
Had no interest previously

WHAT MADE YOU WANNA
WASTE YOUR TIME
AFTER HEARING ABOUT
THE shytTY ENDING?



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[Losttribe]

WHAT MADE YOU WANNA
WASTE YOUR TIME
AFTER HEARING ABOUT
THE shytTY ENDING?



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I don't trust peoples opinion on things

On of the most beautiful women I know asked me to binge watch it with her....I did and got hooked

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

lady stoneheart. She has jaime (after he left cersei for good) and his big bytch captured and she is gonna make her kill him at least that where they left off. She wants anybody involved with the red wedding dead. even tho jaime had nothing to do with it.

I had to look her up and WOW. Why wasn't this part of the show?

 

[The Plug]

I had to look her up and WOW. Why wasn't this part of the show?

EW has an excerpt from an upcoming book called Fire Cannot Kill a Dragon, which follows the behind-the-scenes details of Game of Thrones, and Benioff explained that “there was never really much debate” about including Lady Stoneheart in the show. He acknowledges that there’s “that one great scene” of her in the books, and Weiss agrees. “That was the only debate,” he said. “The scene where she first shows up is one of the best ‘holy s—‘ moments in the books.”

But there are three reasons they ultimately decided not to include her. “Part of the reason we didn’t want to put it in had to do with things coming up in George’s books that we don’t want to spoil [by discussing them],” Benioff said.

Second, the showrunners feared that including Stoneheart when Jon Snow’s resurrection was coming up might be leaning a bit too much on the resurrection angle. “We knew we had Jon Snow’s resurrection coming up,” Benioff said. “Too many resurrections start to diminish the impact of characters dying. We wanted to keep our powder dry for that.”

And finally, actress Michelle Fairley gave such a powerful, stunning performance during the Red Wedding episode, breaking hearts with her primal screams and her matter-of-fact assassination in the final seconds, that the showrunners didn’t want to take away from that memorable final impression. “Catelyn’s last moment was so fantastic, and Michelle is such a great actress, to bring her back as a zombie who doesn’t speak felt like diminishing returns.”

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

I had to look her up and WOW. Why wasn't this part of the show?

Dave and dan didnt like the magical parts of the show and when they ran outta content they were looking for an exit early without wrapping up shyt the book the started. also they were hacks

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Everything you've said in this description of Ned tells me that you missed the entire point of Ned Stark.

Ned lived his life in opposition to by the book honor.
Saving Jon Snow? Not by the book.
Raising his b*stard with his family? Not by the book.
Arguing with his king for the life of the daughter of the man who murdered his father and brother? Not by the book.
Telling Cersei what he knew and giving her the chance to run? Not by the book.

Ned used the clout and currency of his public persona to always try and do the ultimately right thing by the many.

Any time someone says Ned Stark was more focused on honor than anything else, I wonder if we read the same books or watched the same show.

"Do you nikkas listen to music or just skim through it?"

Yeah if anything I would say Ned had his own sense of honor. A sort of self righteousness if you will. Taking his nephew and letting his wife think he cheated on her caused more issues than I'm sure it was worth. But he was keeping his promise to his sister, which he placed in higher importance than the trust of his wife.

Even hating Jamie for killing Aerys Targaryan. He knew Jamie did the right thing. But he hated him for it.

Letting Jon Snow suffer and never know the truth about his mother... that wasn't right and it was the reason for a lot of unnecessary conflict.

Even let Jon go to the wall, without the knowledge of his true lineage. Maybe if Jon knew, it would have changed the trajectory of his life and made him feel as if he had a place in the world.