Was "Hardhome" the best episode of Game of Thrones? "Night's Watch, with me!"

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

That ish was NOT well written.

A king on a war campaign for independence, throws away an important betrothal for a sassy wandering nurse?

But it really showed the ingenuity of Tywin. My dude was marrying all the Lannisters off to whoever he could get. He was tryna forge them long lasting alliances. Married his daughter to the usurper king, then his grandchildren were next in line to the throne. Married Tyrion to Sansa to cement their stake in the north. Married his grandson to big titty Margaery to ensure the support of Highgarden.

Thats what the idiot Starks didn't understand. If Robb had married Walder Freys daughter, Frey never turns on him. He never has to beg for his army cause Frey is gonna back whatever play he has. That would have cemented their support in the south plus shored up his support in the north, because he would have been brother in law to Roose Bolton.

It was the obvious move to make and this fool for all his fighting ingenuity couldn't see the strategy of joining houses

 

[beenz]

Seasons 1 through 4 is legitimately some of the best tv you can find, but the moment the source material started getting thin, the show suffered badly.

george RR martin fukked us all over in that regard.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I don't think he would have ever been introduced because the others in the books don't seem to be as intelligent as the whitewalkers in the show.

They seemed like mindless zombies in the books, but in the show they are portrayed as an undead army with a leader.

The fact that the night king never had a goal the entire show is proof that he wasn't supposed to be a real factor in the books. I think they just wanted a defacto antagonist to Jon Snow's storyline because a bunch of nameless random snow zombies wasn't as cool on screen.

I would have rathered this storyline. That means that Arya ain't taking a dagger to the night king and destroying the whole army of the dead in one hit like One Punch Man.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

Sweet sweet tommen

 

[The Plug]

I didn't "use" a fan theory I said some shyt that i truly believe.

It's also unfair to use "fan theory" as a pejorative when a lot of them are actually logically sound. And I didn't downplay what you said but you said that shyt with so much conviction and it's wrong. Are we really in here saying that Jon wasn't always Aegon????

I said i initially didn't think Stoneheart was that important based on her appearances in the books. I could be very wrong on that one. I'm largely indifferent on her

And it's not so much that they changed Euron. On paper he's the same character from the books but the adaptation itself was bad. I blame that on the actor more than anything

Have you read the winds of winter chapters that have been released years ago? Euron in the books is a wizard that does sacrifices while also being political savvy, he wasn't jack sparrow, which is what the show has portrayed him as.

Jon can be the child of Rhaegar without being Aegon in the books, so I don't know how you're telling me I'm wrong?

 

[Mr Clean]

But it really showed the ingenuity of Tywin. My dude was marrying all the Lannisters off to whoever he could get. He was tryna forge them long lasting alliances. Married his daughter to the usurper king, then his grandchildren were next in line to the throne. Married Tyrion to Sansa to cement their stake in the north. Married his grandson to big titty Margaery to ensure the support of Highgarden.

Thats what the idiot Starks didn't understand. If Robb had married Walder Freys daughter, Frey never turns on him. He never has to beg for his army cause Frey is gonna back whatever play he has. That would have cemented their support in the south plus shored up his support in the north, because he would have been brother in law to Roose Bolton.

It was the obvious move to make and this fool for all his fighting ingenuity couldn't see the strategy of joining houses

Frey even offered up his least ugliest daughter

When he revealed the daughter he had lined up at the red wedding he was thinking, "you stupid fukk. i had even had a bad bytch in the tuck for your bytch ass "

The Starks are a bunch of dummies top to bottom.

 

[5n0man]

Were the whitewalkers in the show ever really shown to be intelligent tho??? They never said or did shyt

Also remember in the books there was a distinction. There were Others and there were Wights. Wights are the mindless zombies revived from the dead. Others are the whitewalkers, the ones that bring the cold and all that fairy tale shyt

The ones in the show are atleast intelligent enough to take orders from a zombie commander.

I remember the others in the books being mindless zombies. The revived undead like lady stoneheart were the ones shown to be intelligent. In the book it seems like the winter cold was creating the white walkers, not the other way around. Something about the cold brought the dead back to life, there was no night king reviving dead bodies.

 

[5n0man]

I would have rathered this storyline. That means that Arya ain't taking a dagger to the night king and destroying the whole army of the dead in one hit like One Punch Man.

There was an abandoned plot line where Jon was supposed to travel far north of the wall to look for an ancient weapon to use against the whitewalkers.


The whole night king shyt was always dumb.

 

[5n0man]

Jon can be the child of Rhaegar without being Aegon in the books, so I don't know how you're telling me I'm wrong?

Yeah if I recall correctly, Rhaegar already had a wife when he ran away with Ned's sister.

 

[Chris Cool]

And it's not so much that they changed Euron. On paper he's the same character from the books but the adaptation itself was bad. I blame that on the actor more than anything

That straight to dvd Euron ain't nothing like his book counterpart.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

That straight to dvd Euron ain't nothing like his book counterpart.

My next thread update is gonna be discussing straight to DVD Dario


We're discussing tonight, stay tuned

 

[O.Red]

The ones in the show are atleast intelligent enough to take orders from a zombie commander.

I remember the others in the books being mindless zombies. The revived undead like lady stoneheart were the ones shown to be intelligent. In the book it seems like the winter cold was creating the white walkers, not the other way around. Something about the cold brought the dead back to life, there was no night king reviving dead bodies.

You're still not accounting for the distinction between wights and Others tho

This is an Other, aka a White Walker. DD change their name from Others because they thought it would confuse the audience

Wights are the blue eyed zombies. The distinction is made multiple times across the books

It's not far fetched to assume the Others would also have a leader in the books, possibly to be revealed later

 

[The Plug]

The leader of the others in the books is the great other. The red priests speak of him as a God.

The name white walker comes from Jon in the books. He called them that.

 

[O.Red]

The leader of the others in the books is the great other. The red priests speak of him as a God.

The name white walker comes from Jon in the books. He called them that.

Sounds like a Night King ass nikka to me

 

[Maxine Shaw]

Nah Jon was always Aegon.

For all the good THAT did us.