Was/Is Obamacare(ACA) a failure or success?

ACA/Obamacare failure or success?

  • Failure

    Votes: 9 34.6%
  • Success

    Votes: 17 65.4%

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Piff Perkins

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Failure, should have expanded Medicare/Medicaid all the way or forced through a public option

Exchanges started to fail almost immediately

This is revisionist history. The exchanges largely failed in states that refused to expand Medicaid, and the Supreme Court gave them a rubber stamp to do so. That flooded the exchanges with poorer/sicker people who should have been on Medicaid.
 

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This is revisionist history. The exchanges largely failed in states that refused to expand Medicaid, and the Supreme Court gave them a rubber stamp to do so. That flooded the exchanges with poorer/sicker people who should have been on Medicaid.
Its dependency on Medicaid speaks to its inherent infeasibility

What good is a healthcare program that can't serve everybody? Expanded Medicaid could.
 

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:salute: to the opinions in here. Got to do some research on the topic before I make an informed nuance take. As someone whose adult life has been born into the system I'm obviously a bit ignorant to it's shortcomings.
 

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It was destined to fail , the new majority licked their chops at the opportunity to get rid of it. That's what the people wanted & voted for . The mandate penalizing people for not having insurance sealed it's faith . If that mandate was not in it might have been tolerable to the masses even though they did not want him with a favorable legacy .
 
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The success was the expansion of Medicaid, the laws forbidding discrimination on pre-existing conditions, staying on parent's insurance till age 26, the requirements of comprehensive coverage...

The failure came at the beginning... no public option. Big Pharma got off... the government provided subsidies for people to pay for insurance but its subsidizing a for-profit industry that's parasitic...

Failure, should have expanded Medicare/Medicaid all the way or forced through a public option

Exchanges started to fail almost immediately

little of column b and little of column a.

Most of the issues with ACA could have been rectified by not having the Public Option shot down.

Stating the problem like this points a finger at Obama. Moderate dems caved, and Joe Lieberman crated the public option - so really blame CT and the 564,095 people who voted for that douche cake.
 

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Stating the problem like this points a finger at Obama. Moderate dems caved, and Joe Lieberman crated the public option - so really blame CT and the 564,095 people who voted for that douche cake.
Ned Lamont should have been CT's Senator :smh:

Also Max Baucus :pacspit: now he says he thinks Medicare for All is a good idea
 

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It was a success considering it actually did it’s job. Lower the uninsured rate while expanding coverage for adults under the age of 26.

It really could use a public option, but that was beyond his control.
 
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Damn, all it took was Obama to leave office for all you guys to finally admit ACA was a failure. :hhh:

The only "good" parts of it was bringing more people into the HC system as well as not allowing pre-existing conditions to be disqualifying items.

ACA negatively impacted most middle class households. You cant fund HC for all and pass the entire burden onto the middle/working class. If rates didn't rise so astronomically for the MC then we'd be talking a different tune about ACA.
 
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