Was Pau Gasol even a top 15 player in 2009 and 2010?

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They were both your rim protectors you fukking clown

Bosh was a one way player in 2009 and 2010

You don't watch basketball

ARE U RETARDED? PAU WAS LITERALLY CALLED PAU GASOFT BECAUSE OF HOW MEDIOCRE HE WAS DEFENSIVELY.

GET HELP BRO
 

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ARE U RETARDED? PAU WAS LITERALLY CALLED PAU GASOFT BECAUSE OF HOW MEDIOCRE HE WAS DEFENSIVELY.

GET HELP BRO
You fukking dumb ass Lakers fans the fukking WOATS of the forum negative basketball IQ having mfs :scust:

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE RINGS YOU HAVE IF IT WASN'T FOR PAU'S DEFENSE :snoop:
 

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We're talking about 2009 and 2010 when he was an All-Star and All-NBA player :mjtf:
The point OP was making was Pau was never a top 10 player and wasn’t even regarded untill Kobe.

You posted ill formatted contextless stats he put up on a trash under .500 team that was 30th in defensive rating partly because of his own production on the defensive end of the floor :camby:

You dikkhead, espn and stats are contextless when they straight told you Chris Bosh was the best PF or in the top 3.



GP MPG PTS FGM-FGA FG%3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT%
1 Chris Bosh, PF TOR 70 36.1 24.0 8.6-16.5 .518 0.1-0.3 .364 6.7-8.4 .797
2 David Lee, PF NY 81 37.3 20.2 8.5-15.5 .545 0.0-0.1 .000 3.3-4.1 .812
3 Al Harrington, PF NY 72 30.5 17.7 6.2-14.3 .435 1.9-5.7 .342 3.3-4.4 .757
4 Josh Smith, PF ATL 81 35.4 15.7 6.2-12.3 .505 0.0-0.1 .000 3.2-5.2 .618
5 Troy Murphy, PF IND 72 32.6 14.6 5.3-11.3 .472 1.8-4.6 .384 2.1-2.7 .798
6 Al Horford, PF ATL 81 35.1 14.2 5.8-10.5 .551 0.0-0.0 1.000 2.6-3.3 .789
7 Rashard Lewis, PF ORL 72 32.9 14.1 4.9-11.2 .435 2.3-5.9 .397 2.0-2.5 .806
8 Elton Brand, PF PHI 76 30.2 13.1 5.4-11.3 .480 0.0-0.0 .000 2.3-3.1 .738
9 Charlie Villanueva, PF DET 78 23.7 11.9 4.7-10.6 .439 1.3-3.6 .351 1.4-1.7 .815
10 Ersan Ilyasova, PF


2009-10 Regular Season NBA Player Stats and League Leaders - Scoring Per Game - National Basketball Association - ESPN
NBA 2010-2011: Power Ranking 30 Starting Power Forwards


Chris Bosh NBA Rankings 2009-2010 -

Ain’t no more context needed nikka:stopitslime:

YLooking at All-Star selections is faulty when he played for mid level Memphis teams in a Western Conference with Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki and others in his younger years

Oh so we giving him a pass for playing on a medicore Memphis team, but bashing Bosh for playing on a shyt Raptors team? That’s what we doing? Like I said, his hype started and needed with playing with a top 2 player at the time and that’s Kobe Bryant.


I’ll give you your credit atleast you posted something. Only 3 though:mjlol: with a article saying Chris Bosh was right behind him

And another article after the 2010 finals which I mentioned earlier :mjlol:
 

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The point OP was making was Pau was never a top 10 player and wasn’t even regarded untill Kobe.



You dikkhead, espn and stats are contextless when they straight told you Chris Bosh was the best PF or in the top 3.






2009-10 Regular Season NBA Player Stats and League Leaders - Scoring Per Game - National Basketball Association - ESPN
NBA 2010-2011: Power Ranking 30 Starting Power Forwards


Chris Bosh NBA Rankings 2009-2010 -

Ain’t no more context needed nikka:stopitslime:



Oh so we giving him a pass for playing on a medicore Memphis team, but bashing Bosh for playing on a shyt Raptors team? That’s what we doing? Like I said, his hype started and needed with playing with a top 2 player at the time and that’s Kobe Bryant.



I’ll give you your credit atleast you posted something. Only 3 though:mjlol: with a article saying Chris Bosh was right behind him

And another article after the 2010 finals which I mentioned earlier :mjlol:
Nikka why you arguing me like you even thinking about changing ya mind :snoop:

This nikka just sent me stats from a fantasy basketball page and a BR write up written from the amateur era of that site with a short casual write up on Bosh. Mfer I just told you Bosh put up numbers on a BAD team, you have no context, high usage inflated stats, did not defend, contract year. READ AND COMPREHEND NIKKA.

Gasol led his mediocre teams to more successful regular seasons in a tougher conference. This was already STATED. In order to get those All-Star selections and All-NBA nods the guys on good teams always get rewarded. It wasn't about Gasol specifically playing with Kobe, but Gasol joining an elite team especially a big market team that was constantly on national television. Gasol always had high impact he is not a player that is lauded by nikkas who only look at points per game and aesthetics.

How many fukking articles do I need to post my guy? :gucci:

SLAM, which is one of the most reputable basketball publications we have in the culture ranked him as a top 10 player and the second best PF in the league in 2010 and as the 14th best player and 5th overall ranked PF in 2009. In SLAM's write up everything about Gasol's game and perception as well as the perception of other bigs at the time is stated. It gave you the real, it gave you the FACTS.

I'm not discrediting fukking Kobe nikka, nobody wins without help. Give Pau his damn due as one of the most skilled players in the game, top 15 player, two way big, All-Star, All-NBA, and credit him as a pivotal factor on both ends for the Lakers repeating in that era, give him his fukking respect. This thread was CREATED in order to prop up Kobe and initiate a stan war.
 
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Nikka why you arguing me like you even thinking about changing ya mind :snoop:

This nikka just sent me stats from a fantasy basketball page and a BR write up written from the amateur era of that site with a short casual write up on Bosh. Mfer I just told you Bosh put up numbers on a BAD team, you have no context, high usage inflated stats, did not defend, contract year. READ AND COMPREHEND NIKKA.

Gasol led his mediocre teams to more successful regular seasons in a tougher conference. This was already STATED. In order to get those All-Star selections and All-NBA nods the guys on good teams always get rewarded. It wasn't about Gasol specifically playing with Kobe, but Gasol joining an elite team especially a big market team that was constantly on national television. Gasol always had high impact he is not a player that is lauded by nikkas who only look at points per game and aesthetics.

How many fukking articles do I need to post my guy? :gucci:

SLAM, which is one of the most reputable basketball publications we have in the culture ranked him as a top 10 player and the second best PF in the league in 2010 and as the 14th best player and 5th overall ranked PF in 2009. In SLAM's write up everything about Gasol's game and perception as well as the perception of other bigs at the time is stated. It gave you the real, it gave you the FACTS.

I'm not discrediting fukking Kobe nikka, nobody wins without help. Give Pau his damn due as one of the most skilled players in the game, top 15 player, two way big, All-Star, All-NBA, and credit him as a pivotal factor on both ends for the Lakers repeating in that era, give him his fukking respect. This thread was CREATED in order to prop up Kobe and initiate a stan war.

Fantasy where?
2009-10 Regular Season NBA Player Stats and League Leaders - Scoring Per Game - National Basketball Association - ESPN
NBA 2010-2011: Power Ranking 30 Starting Power Forwards


Chris Bosh NBA Rankings 2009-2010 -

Where is this fantasy nikka?
Nikka you posted 3 whole articles, one of which said Bosh was right behind Gasol and the other was after the 2010 finals, in which I already said was one of the few times people posted about him

Nikka I’m arguing with you cause I DISAGREEwith you. I don’t care to change my mind, duh nikka that’s the point of arguing, the saying shyt I don’t agree with. Nobody is changing nobodies mind about some shyt from 10 years ago , nikkas is explaining their point.

Yes we know Slam is reputable, so is ESPN and Bleacher report which showed STATS that you use to dikk ride Lebron everyday, on Chris Bosh case for being the best PF. Those are FACTS nikka. You tried to discredit numbers cause he “dIdNT pLaY nO D” yet expect me to listen to Slams opinion :ohhh::mjlol:the absolute fukking audacity.:russ:Bosh was on the All star team 2 times playing with a mediocre team. I’m not trying to hear it. Memphis was by far better than those Raptors teams so nikka please.

Pau was never a top 10-15 player. Almost everybody in here who has argued with you told you the same damn thing

Context this, context that. Nikka WHAT fukking context? Bosh did more on a bad team than Pau did on a medicore/average team. Nikkas love context and don’t even know what the fukk they talking about. The end nikka
 

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Fantasy where?
2009-10 Regular Season NBA Player Stats and League Leaders - Scoring Per Game - National Basketball Association - ESPN
NBA 2010-2011: Power Ranking 30 Starting Power Forwards


Chris Bosh NBA Rankings 2009-2010 -

Where is this fantasy nikka?
Nikka you posted 3 whole articles, one of which said Bosh was right behind Gasol and the other was after the 2010 finals, in which I already said was one of the few times people posted about him

Nikka I’m arguing with you cause I DISAGREEwith you. I don’t care to change my mind, duh nikka that’s the point of arguing, the saying shyt I don’t agree with. Nobody is changing nobodies mind about some shyt from 10 years ago , nikkas is explaining their point.

Yes we know Slam is reputable, so is ESPN and Bleacher report which showed STATS that you use to dikk ride Lebron everyday, on Chris Bosh case for being the best PF. Those are FACTS nikka. You tried to discredit numbers cause he “dIdNT pLaY nO D” yet expect me to listen to Slams opinion :ohhh::mjlol:the absolute fukking audacity.:russ:Bosh was on the All star team 2 times playing with a mediocre team. I’m not trying to hear it. Memphis was by far better than those Raptors teams so nikka please.

Pau was never a top 10-15 player. Almost everybody in here who has argued with you told you the same damn thing

Context this, context that. Nikka WHAT fukking context? Bosh did more on a bad team than Pau did on a medicore/average team. Nikkas love context and don’t even know what the fukk they talking about. The end nikka
Yes nikka context. If you go off stats Harden might as well be one of the G.O.A.T.'s. You posted stat rankings from a fantasy basketball page from 2010 the season Bosh put up his gaudiest scoring numbers. Nikka had a 29% usage rate on a 40 win team and was a one way player. That's the fukking context and why I'm not putting him as head and shoulders over a nikka who put up less gaudy scoring numbers with better All-Around play and impact. Those Toronto teams would have been better with Gasol because they had no problem scoring, their problem was defense and Pau would be their rim protector.

Nikka yes Bosh was on the All-Star team on a mediocre team he didn't have the same competition to make a spot as Gasol did going up against the forwards from the West :snoop:

How wasn't Pau a top 10-15 player when one of the most fukking reputable basketball publications had him there back to back years. The fukking staff that picks the All-NBA teams had him there. The coaches who pick fukking All-Stars had him there.

I don't give a fukk what these nikkas told me. Lakers fans shyt on Pau to big up Kobe. They are the weirdest and lowest IQ fanbase on the forum with the worst trolls. This is who you crediting?

Get off Kobe dikk fakkit
 
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You fakkit I told no lies

Bosh, Amar'e, Randolph, Lee, Boozer all them nikkas was sieves and one way bigs in that era. Gasol was a rim protector and was in the middle for great defenses before playing for the Lakers.

:what: Did you even watch the Lakers back then?

Pau Gasol was no rim protector. Andrew Bynum was the Lakers rim protector.

I think you're confusing Marc Gasol with Pau. That's the brother who played great defense. Pau was the one known for being soft.
 
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Bosh was a one way big back then. I already posted the article of Bosh looking to shed that perception when he went to Miami. His low post defense and rim protection was never on par with Gasol. He also couldn't initiate the offense out of the post because he's nowhere near Gasol as a passer. In the triangle you need that post up threat and Bosh was never a banger or a low post guy rather a face up and midrange guy who liked to operate in the elbow and drive baseline.

I'm conviced you nikkas weren't watching basketball then if you're propping up BOSH FOR DEFENSE in his Toronto years talking bout its 50% of the game. Fakkits really discounting Gasol's 7'5 wingspan, his rim protection, flopping/charge drawing, and his defense against KG AND DWIGHT HOWARD in the Finals to prop up a guy who was considered a one way big at the time. Bosh's defensive expertise was P&R defense even in his defensive prime he wasn't holding nikkas like KG, Roy Hibbert, Tim Duncan 1-on-1.

Just keep it a buck none of y'all saw Bosh play like that in Toronto. He was in my division. You Lakers fans did not see this man play like that the Raptors were almost never on national TV just cut the shyt.

Andrew Bynum was the Lakers rim protector and low post defender. Bosh being elite at pick n roll defense woild have helped the Lakers more on defense than Pau ever did.

Once again you must be some young kid who never even watched basketball back then if you keep going on about Pau being a rim protector. That's the wrong Gasol brother breh. Marc is the one who played defense. Pau was always more of an offensive player. His defense was never that good.

Andrew Bynum was the anchor to the Lakers defense back then.
 

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:what: Did you even watch the Lakers back then?

Pau Gasol was no rim protector. Andrew Bynum was the Lakers rim protector.

I think you're confusing Marc Gasol with Pau. That's the brother who played great defense. Pau was the one known for being soft.
You silly fakkit Gasol was always a shot blocker and up there in FG% allowed at the rim even into his older years he was a deterrent with his 7’5 wingspan and used the rule of verticality to his advantage

Soft ass Gasol defended two HoF bigs excellently (KG and D12) in the Finals and did a better job against D12 than Bynum.

Bynum was oft injured and Bynum was a sub-30 minute guy look at his fukking minutes in the playoffs. Gasol was playing the 5 when he was on the bench. You had two 7 foot rim protectors.
 
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His name was in the conversation you fukking clown. ABC used to suck that nikkas dikk I remember the telecasts back then vividly and I remember heads calling him the best All-Around big man and shyt like that, and slobbing his passing ability. I hated this soft dirty looking cac Spaniard back then but over time I see his true value as I matured as a basketball fan. You not gonna tell me shyt. It's plenty of articles and footage from that time that can be posted don't do that.

He was an All-Star and All-NBA in this time period but apparently he wasn't in the conversation for shyt.

Now you're just making shyt up. Tim Duncan and Dirk was still in the league back then. Was nobody calling Pau the best big in the league over them.

And if media sukking someone off is good evidence for you, then you must agree with the media back then that Kobe was the best player in the league and the closest to Jordan since that was definitely said in almost every Lakers telecast?
 

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Yes nikka context. If you go off stats Harden might as well be one of the G.O.A.T.'s. You posted stat rankings from a fantasy basketball page from 2010 the season Bosh put up his gaudiest scoring numbers. Nikka had a 29% usage rate on a 40 win team and was a one way player. That's the fukking context and why I'm not putting him as head and shoulders over a nikka who put up less gaudy scoring numbers with better All-Around play and impact. Those Toronto teams would have been better with Gasol because they had no problem scoring, their problem was defense and Pau would be their rim protector.

Nikka yes Bosh was on the All-Star team on a mediocre team he didn't have the same competition to make a spot as Gasol did going up against the forwards from the West :snoop:

How wasn't Pau a top 10-15 player when one of the most fukking reputable basketball publications had him there back to back years. The fukking staff that picks the All-NBA teams had him there. The coaches who pick fukking All-Stars had him there.

I don't give a fukk what these nikkas told me. Lakers fans shyt on Pau to big up Kobe. They are the weirdest and lowest IQ fanbase on the forum with the worst trolls. This is who you crediting?

Get off Kobe dikk fakkit


dikkhead are you telling me Chris Bosh, taking a bad team to the playoffs is somehow worse than Pau Gasol being a second option to a top 2 player in the league with a good squad? :mjlol:“bUt hE pUT uP goOD nUmBeRs oN a bAD tEaM” so did Lebron, Kobe, MJ and every fukking body who once played on a bad/medicore team. What the mother fukk was Lebron, who’s dikk you suck every day, doing on those wack ass Cavs teams he had to drag to the fukking playoffs every year to the point he got tired and went to Miami to play with Dwade and Bosh?:stopitslime:huh you knick dikksucking fakkit?

And yes, James Harden is the best SG mostly based off Numbers, just like Bosh has a case for best PF Based off stats you shythead. Harden ain’t never won shyt but got a fukking MVP and made a case for the best player in the league last year:stopitslime:

Yes, One, or two publications you posted(:mjlol:) had Pau as a top 10 player. Whoopty fukking do you fakkit ass clown.:hhh:

Everything I posted was his actual stats.
 

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Now you're just making shyt up. Tim Duncan and Dirk was still in the league back then. Was nobody calling Pau the best big in the league over them.

And if media sukking someone off is good evidence for you, then you must agree with the media back then that Kobe was the best player in the league and the closest to Jordan since that was definitely said in almost every Lakers telecast?
That nikka a fukking clown.
 

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Andrew Bynum was the Lakers rim protector and low post defender. Bosh being elite at pick n roll defense woild have helped the Lakers more on defense than Pau ever did.

Once again you must be some young kid who never even watched basketball back then if you keep going on about Pau being a rim protector. That's the wrong Gasol brother breh. Marc is the one who played defense. Pau was always more of an offensive player. His defense was never that good.

Andrew Bynum was the anchor to the Lakers defense back then.
Bosh wasn’t an elite P&R defender in Toronto goofy ass nikka how many times do I have to say it he was seen as a one way big. Whether he could have put in the effort being a Laker is another question.

Y’all had Odom for versatility and P&R defense and Bynum was put on the bench with Gasol at the 5. Pau was a rim protector. Stop fukking lying about his impact. You can’t tell me shyt.

You don’t watch basketball you suck Kobe’s dikk
 
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You silly fakkit Gasol was always a shot blocker and up there in FG% allowed at the rim even into his older years he was a deterrent with his 7’5 wingspan and used the rule of verticality to his advantage

Soft ass Gasol defended two HoF bigs excellently (KG and D12) in the Finals and did a better job against D12 than Bynum.

Bynum was oft injured and Bynum was a sub-30 minute guy look at his fukking minutes in the playoffs. Gasol was playing the 5 when he was on the bench. You had two 7 foot rim protectors.

Revisionist history won't work this time. Most of us Lakers fans remember watching that era vividly.

There was a reason everyone called pau SOFT. If he was this great defender you're making him out to be, then why did that tag of being SOFT follow him around for so long?

And before you bring up race, nobody ever called his brother Marc "soft".
 
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