FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
I can't believe you Laker fans had the audacity to suggest David Lee's no defense playing ass was better than Pau 
Was Pau Gasol even a top 15 player in 2009 and 2010?
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Pau was a top-3 two-way big man in 2009 and 2010. There were very few bigs who could play on both ends as well as he could. He was making All-NBA as a PF every year from 2009 to 2011 even though LeBron, KD, Carmelo, PP, KG, Dirk, Duncan, LMA, Bosh, and Blake were all listed as forwards.
Was KG a top-15 player? Was Dwight Howard a top-15 player? Because Pau outplayed both of them head-to-head in the Finals.
Bosh didn't come close to touching any All-NBA teams in that span, and 2/3 of those years were before he joined the Heat. Also, Pau and Bosh played 20 games head-to-head in their career:
Pau: 20-10-3 and 1.2 blocks on 53% shooting
Bosh: 18-9-2 and 0.9 blocks on 49% shooting
And Bosh actually took more shots than Pau in those games but still finished with worse numbers.
Y'all move the goalposts like a mofo. Tell me how many playoff games Bosh, Love, Kyrie, Z, Mo, and Hughes had won COMBINED before they teamed up with LeBron.
Kobe played more seasons with Shaq alone than LeBron played with Wade and Kyrie combined. Add in Pau and that's 13 years that he played with elite All-NBA bigs, while LeBron only had four seasons with All-NBA teammates in his entire career.
Was KG a top-15 player? Was Dwight Howard a top-15 player? Because Pau outplayed both of them head-to-head in the Finals.
Bosh didn't come close to touching any All-NBA teams in that span, and 2/3 of those years were before he joined the Heat. Also, Pau and Bosh played 20 games head-to-head in their career:
Pau: 20-10-3 and 1.2 blocks on 53% shooting
Bosh: 18-9-2 and 0.9 blocks on 49% shooting
And Bosh actually took more shots than Pau in those games but still finished with worse numbers.
What five are those?
Y'all move the goalposts like a mofo. Tell me how many playoff games Bosh, Love, Kyrie, Z, Mo, and Hughes had won COMBINED before they teamed up with LeBron.
Kobe played more seasons with Shaq alone than LeBron played with Wade and Kyrie combined. Add in Pau and that's 13 years that he played with elite All-NBA bigs, while LeBron only had four seasons with All-NBA teammates in his entire career.
We go by that blog's rankings then LeBron was facing a Dallas Superteam with 3 top-15 players.
Lakerman0834
Veteran
Confuse 2007 rankings with 2011 brehs....Pau was a top-3 two-way big man in 2009 and 2010. There were very few bigs who could play on both ends as well as he could. He was making All-NBA as a PF every year from 2009 to 2011 even though LeBron, KD, Carmelo, PP, KG, Dirk, Duncan, LMA, Bosh, and Blake were all listed as forwards.
Was KG a top-15 player? Was Dwight Howard a top-15 player? Because Pau outplayed both of them head-to-head in the Finals.
Bosh didn't come close to touching any All-NBA teams in that span, and 2/3 of those years were before he joined the Heat. Also, Pau and Bosh played 20 games head-to-head in their career:
Pau: 20-10-3 and 1.2 blocks on 53% shooting
Bosh: 18-9-2 and 0.9 blocks on 49% shooting
And Bosh actually took more shots than Pau in those games but still finished with worse numbers.
What five are those?
Y'all move the goalposts like a mofo. Tell me how many playoff games Bosh, Love, Kyrie, Z, Mo, and Hughes had won COMBINED before they teamed up with LeBron.
Kobe played more seasons with Shaq alone than LeBron played with Wade and Kyrie combined. Add in Pau and that's 13 years that he played with elite All-NBA bigs, while LeBron only had four seasons with All-NBA teammates in his entire career.
We go by that blog's rankings then LeBron was facing a Dallas Superteam with 3 top-15 players.
Ineedmoney504
SOHH ICEY...WE EATIN
How many off series after shaq had Kobe won before he had got Gasol, boy was a fukking first round exit same as gasol
But that's exactly what you're doing. You're the one who named the damn thread and then you're using 2007 rankings as receipts?
Lakerman0834
Veteran
Huh I’m showing receipts of what people thought of gasol pre Kobe/lakers which was 2007. 2011 has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. Someone stated lakers traded for an elite big which was obviously false narrativeBut that's exactly what you're doing. You're the one who named the damn thread and then you're using 2007 rankings as receipts?
American education system failing again. Hopefully your kids won’t be asking your for help with homework
murksiderock
Superstar
Pau was a top-3 two-way big man in 2009 and 2010. There were very few bigs who could play on both ends as well as he could. He was making All-NBA as a PF every year from 2009 to 2011 even though LeBron, KD, Carmelo, PP, KG, Dirk, Duncan, LMA, Bosh, and Blake were all listed as forwards.
Was KG a top-15 player? Was Dwight Howard a top-15 player? Because Pau outplayed both of them head-to-head in the Finals.
Bosh didn't come close to touching any All-NBA teams in that span, and 2/3 of those years were before he joined the Heat. Also, Pau and Bosh played 20 games head-to-head in their career:
Pau: 20-10-3 and 1.2 blocks on 53% shooting
Bosh: 18-9-2 and 0.9 blocks on 49% shooting
And Bosh actually took more shots than Pau in those games but still finished with worse numbers.
What five are those?
Y'all move the goalposts like a mofo. Tell me how many playoff games Bosh, Love, Kyrie, Z, Mo, and Hughes had won COMBINED before they teamed up with LeBron.
Kobe played more seasons with Shaq alone than LeBron played with Wade and Kyrie combined. Add in Pau and that's 13 years that he played with elite All-NBA bigs, while LeBron only had four seasons with All-NBA teammates in his entire career.
We go by that blog's rankings then LeBron was facing a Dallas Superteam with 3 top-15 players.
It's obvious cats are stat measuring lmao. If you actually watched the guys play nobody can say Bosh was significantly better than Pau, that suggestion is laughable. As would be the reverse, on balance they were the same caliber of player. This board loopy as fukk, it's really weird how basketball culture has reinvisioned Chris Bosh and done the same to Pau in reverse...
Lakers aren't winning two titles in three years without Pau...
And big LOL at the '07 player rankings by a basketball blog site....
fantabolous
smart usage of data plan
???? Obviously you don't like Kobe... But now we just blatantly lie?
Lakerman0834
Veteran
Why LOL it’s the only proof we have of what people thought. You are clearly using bias of now pau and bosh career turned out. It’s proof y’all making up Pau was a elite player prior to coming to the lakers, while downplaying Bosh. It basically proves the point y’all revising history
Lol you mean phil jacksons triangle made people better.
letti cook
Superstar
"thank god they brought Pau here , those last 2 wouldnt have happened"
NO STAR HAS EVER WON A CHIP WITHOUT ANOTHER ALLSTAR...ITS OKAY THAT KOBE HAD A GOOD TEAM..ITS OK
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
This is facts
Pau was a Bosh-level player...the perception of how each were seen by the media post kobe/lebron was always funny to me...Pau instantly started getting lauded as if he was tim duncan while Bosh got the same treatment as kevin love where playing with lebron damn near meant the end of him being considered a legitimate star in the league...now part of that is results based...Pau was able to fully play his game while playing with Kobe and his impact on the court was actually magnified ... Bosh had to make concessions and alter his game to make way for playing with two top 5 players in Bron and Wade and their style of play...but in a vaccum pau and bosh were the same tier of player
Now as far as Lakers' fans hate of Pau, you'll find similar sentiments from pretty much every fanbase of every team he's ever played for...before and after the Lakers...it's just his "Pau as some approximation of Tim Duncan" sheen only existed from the outside looking in when he had on a lakers jersey
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
How did this turn into a referendum on Bosh?
You dudes really cant stick to the issue here.
