SO IF PAU IS THE SAME LEVEL AS MARC, U PRETTY MUCH PROVED THE POINT OF THIS THREAD
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Was Pau Gasol even a top 15 player in 2009 and 2010?
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SO IF PAU IS THE SAME LEVEL AS MARC, U PRETTY MUCH PROVED THE POINT OF THIS THREAD
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KG in 07-08?? Because if your taking earlier Kobe and KG.. Imma be real Kobe from 00-04 wasn’t ready to be a 1st option, we all know he can score and defend back then. His leadership skills were poorest then, and being without Shaq humbled him and improved his leadership. KG would be perfect for Kobe, but Pau was better than KG by 09. Pau throughly outplayed KG in the finals too
KG suffered a knee injury in 2009. Before that he punked Pau in the 2008 Finals. That was the main reason the Lakers lost.
And stop with this Kobe was a poor leader mess. Shaq himself has admitted he shoulda been in shape back then and that he didn't work as hard as he should have cause he knew Kobe was gonna cover his flaw.
2002-03 is arguably Kobe at his best. Pair him with KG back then and they win every title from 2003-2010.
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Kobe fans say Kobe haters overrate Pau, but Kobe fans overrate Bosh ten fold.
Pau Gasol in CHICAGO, made as many All NBA Teams as Chris Bosh did in his whole career
People saying Kobe made Pau
, Kobe helped Pau for sure but he didn’t make him
Pau made All Star teams before and after he played with Kobe, he made an All NBA Team after he played with Kobe
Pau wasn’t some consensus top 10 player, but he was better than David fuxking Lee . I’m a Memphis fan, and I’m taking Pau over Zach.
Pau Gasol in CHICAGO, made as many All NBA Teams as Chris Bosh did in his whole career
People saying Kobe made Pau
, Kobe helped Pau for sure but he didn’t make himPau made All Star teams before and after he played with Kobe, he made an All NBA Team after he played with Kobe
Pau wasn’t some consensus top 10 player, but he was better than David fuxking Lee
. I’m a Memphis fan, and I’m taking Pau over Zach.
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Marc Gasol was top 10 in MVP voting in 14-15, and was considered to be the best center and a top 10 player in that season
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This is actually on point and what I've long said, which inspired this thread:
While Pau and Bosh offered different characteristics to their game, on balance, they are the same caliber of player...
Again, I'll say peak Bosh was probably a little better than peak Pau, but it wasn't by some significant measure by any stretch of the imagination. Chris Bosh never dominated a gotdamn thing---->neither did Pau. Their impact was roughly the same---->Bosh went to the playoffs twice as a #1 in the weaker conference; Pau went to the playoffs three times as a #1 in the stronger conference...
Pau was a great fit at #2 next to Kobe. Bosh was a great fit at #3 with LeBron. If Bosh would have come to Cleveland, a 60+ win team, he would have been a great fit as a #2. As it is, he did fine as a #3. Both guys had playoff struggles, Chris Bosh was routinely on milk cartons come playoff and Finals time in that Big 3 era...
The hyping of Bosh and downplaying of Pau is crazy. Literally nobody in here has discredited Kobe for playing with Pau. Kobe Stans are using the bait and switch tactic, and the dummies in here are falling for it, to make people believe cats are slighting Kobe hust because we all dont agree Pau was trash...
Pau Gasol and Chris Bosh are the same caliber of player, any insinuation that Chris Bosh was a superior player is being really generous to him considering the roles he played, the numbers he put up, and the results he achieved, in correlation to Pau...
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Pau was not a good defensive player. I don't care how much revisionist history is being accepted as fact in this thread. Bynum was the one who actually made the Lakers a competent defense. He was the rim protector. Whenever he was out the Lakers struggled on defense because Pau wasn't a good defender. Its the main reason the Lakers lost in 2008.
Chris Bosh was easily a better defender than Pau at almost every point in his career.
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Pau wasn’t that good of a defender I agree, but Bosh was not a good one either in Toronto. Pau was trash on defense in Chicago, he was component on Defense in LA
The hate LA fans have for Pau is some of the dumbest shyt I've ever seen on here
Team would've wasted the last stretch of Kobes prime if that trade never went down.
NOBODY HATES PAU
WE, AS LAKER FANS, SIMPLY REMEMBER FIRST HAND HOW FRUSTRATING PAU WAS AT TIMES
SO WHEN THESE CASUAL CLOWNS TRY TO TALK HIM UP JUST TO TALK DOWN ON KOBE, ITS PRETTY FUNNY
THATS NOT TO SAY PAU WASNT A VERY GOOD PLAYER.. BUT HE WAS EQUIVALENT TO A 3RD OPTION PLAYER ON A LEBRON CHAMPIONSHIP SQUAD
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Well yeah he was
, his prime lasted one season though
.. No one saying Pau was a consensus top 10 player, but y’all saying Danny Granger/Lee/ better 
Well yeah he was
PRIME GRANGER WAS PAUL GEORGE BEFORE PAUL GEORGE
26 PPG
6 RPG
3 APG
1 SPG
1.4 BPG
AND AN EXCELLENT DEFENDER.. CLEARLY BETTER THAN PAU.
THE PROBLEM WIT GRANGER IS THAT HIS PRIME WAS SHORT LIVED DUE TO HIS INJURY.
No one has said the gap between Bosh and Pau is big. We all agree they are close. I simply think Bosh is better. You yourself admit he had a better peak so what's the problem?
With that said, I disagree with Pau being some perfect fit next to Kobe. Kobe made that pairing work a lot better than I imagined. Pau was a back to the basket big with below average defense. His skill set on offense was redundant with Bynum. Both guys played the same on offense thus giving the Lakers some of the worst spacing in the league at that time.
Bosh would have been a better fit next to Bynum since their skills wouldn't have overlapped. He also would have helped give Kobe better spacing. And his defense was superior to Pau.
Chris Bosh would have made those Lakers teams in 2008-2010 a lot better than they were with Pau.
"Bu bu Kobe didn't even have a top 15 teammate". Dude is arguably the worst finals MVP in NBA history. There's only been 2 times that the nba finals MVP shot below 50% with kobe doing it both times. Dude has the worst shooting percentage of all nba finals mvps. That's not including all of his regular season nba-worst records.
It doesn't matter what pau was ranked during that lakers run, kobe had wild help. Dude went 6/24 in a game 7 at home with his team still winning. You dudes analyze the game like little boys.
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ZACK RANDOLPH WAS AN ALL-NBA PLAYER WIT MEMPHIS
PAU WAS NOT
But we're specifically talking in the 2-5 years before The Decision. Bo was a good player but a poor teammate and poor leader, with nothing to hang his hat on in terms of achievements...
Before he got to Memphis, Randolph was a lesser version of Boogie Cousins. He certainly was never as good as Boogie but skillset and impact was similar....him and Pau didn't play for the same Memphis team at the same time, saying Bo was better in Memphis than Pau is true but Bo also had a lot more to work with than Pau did...
Overall Bo and Pau are similar caliber players too...
Bosh was never a top 10 player, nikka didn’t even make the All NBA Team the previous 3 years was he even top 15
Brandon Roy was without a doubt better than Bosh!
Lmao...
Nobody has won 7-8 titles in a row since Boston did it from 1958-1966, in an NBA incomparable to the one now. A prime KG and Kobe weren't winning 7 or 8 in a row either...
We missed your overzealousness, you have a unique skill at making insightful points then simultaneously trolling and/or making dumbass statements...