Was there a big talent gap between Tom Brady and the QB's in his era?

[FabTrey]

When Aeschines spoke, they said, 'How well he speaks.' But when Demosthenes spoke, they said, 'Let us march against Philip.'

Being the GOAT goes beyond football IQ and arm talent; it requires an aura, a unique ability to inspire players to elevate their game. While Rodgers may have rubbed players the wrong way, Manning carried a stern demeanor. Brady possessed a special knack for camaraderie, making teammates not only respect him but also strive to give their all. His teams never lacked effort; they believed in victory and were consistently well-prepared. Listen to every damn players who played with Brady (minus CTE AB). They loved him to death.


But his arm talent is criminally underrated too




Yall have no ideas how impressive that throw really is. That ball traveled 76yds (it was angled). That's after getting abused by the giants D for 59min.

 

[FabTrey]

You can't name a QB in the history of the NFL who's had a more perfect combination of luck,timing,skill,help from his defense, a stable organization to develop and elite players than Brady.

while that isn't a mark against him... trying to craft it into being 20 straight years of hero ball in spite of everything is just true revisionist history.

Achieving 10 Super Bowls with 7 victories transcends mere statistics; it's about intangibles beyond the field.

Brady's leadership and inspiration conceal team flaws, igniting a heightened level of play. This sentiment isn't fabricated; post-Super Bowl, Bucs players like Godwin, Winfield, Evans, White, Fournette all attested, saying "Brady made us better." Football involves a vast network from Monday to Saturday, extending beyond visible actions.

Dismissing Tebow comparisons, Brady has won more playoff games than Tebow even started. The success was not just the "Patriots way"; it was the "Brady way."

 

[murksiderock]

Rodgers was the most talented QB of his era and it's not particularly close.

He was not more talented than Manning, stop it...

Neither was Brady, so to answer OP, big no. This is where Mahomes is Brady-esque, to major talent gap between he and his peers, the gap is between the eats and in the clutch. That's where Brady's gap was wide as the grand canyon on his peers. No one had his poise, his unfear of the moment, no one was close...

I have a suspicion Burrow may be really close to Mahomes in the clutch, between the ears thing----->in his two healthy seasons Burrow has been AFC Championship and Super Bowl. But half his career, the other two years, he's been hurt. So he can't just get benefit of doubt without more success, but thru 4 years there's reason to believe he's similar to Mahomes in this factor, there was no one similar to Brady in his era in this factor...

Also, Burrow is much more of an accurate, precision passer than Mahomes...

Rodgers prime really only overlapped with Manning from 2009-2014, that's 6 seasons. In those 6 years:

•Manning 62-18 (.775/12.4 Per16), Rodgers 64-23 (.736/11.8 per16)
•playoffs Rodgers 6-5, Manning 4-5
•Manning 2-0 AFCCG, Rodgers 1-1 NFCCG
•Manning 0-2 Super Bowl, Rodgers 1-0
•Manning 5x AFCW/S champ, Rodgers 4x NFCN champ
•Manning 4 trophies, including 2x MVP; Rodgers 4 trophies, including 2x MVP
•Manning 3x 1st Team All-Pro; Rodgers 3x All-Pro (2x 1st)
•Manning 5x Pro Bowl, Rodgers 4x Pro Bowl

•Rodgers only twice led the NFL in something, 2x in passer rating. Manning led in 3 different categories, yards, touchdowns, and completion percentage

•Manning's Per16 raw stats shyt on Rodgers

.........

So in the 6-year stretch they were simultaneously in their primes, Manning beat Rodgers in every single category except playoff wins. Got to more Super Bowls, better raw stats, more 1st Team All-Pros, more division titles, etc. If you take their careers before and after this period (like 1999-2008 Manning, vs 2015-21 Rodgers), the gap widens. Manning was better in their overlapping primes; Manning was better pre-Rodgers, than Rodgers was post-Manning...

Stop this shyt. And please don't come with some eye test shyt. Peyton Manning is probably the most explosive, skilled passer ever, don't try me with this eye test shyt...

 

[MJ Truth]

I'm talking compared to Rodgers, Brees, Farve and Manning. They say Mahomes is in a league of his own and the others are playing catch up.

There’s a mentality gap between Tom and everyone else, not a talent gap. Same with all of the legends.

 

[HabitualChiller]

The last time there was a true talent gap at QB was when Randall Cunningham and Elway were in the league. They were the only 2 guys with elite arms and crazy athleticism...if I remember correctly

 

[HabitualChiller]

On another note, I found it funny as shyt that kats are already starting to mythologize Brady like he didn't retire barely over a year ago.

Like CHILL.THE.fukk.OUT.

Brady never had crazy running plays, and he never really wowed you with a "OH MY GOD! HOW DID HE FIT THAT PASS IN THERE!?!" type of play, but he was just extremely consistent at getting the little things right, which is why you see so many people trying to thrust Mahomes into the GOAT so early.

Mahomes has aaaaaaaa loooooootttttt of "Wow!" plays, and he's clutch. The same happened with Jordan.

 

[Jplaya2023]

There’s a mentality gap between Tom and everyone else, not a talent gap. Same with all of the legends.

So tell me the type of "mentality" Payton, Rogers & Brees needed to play with 16 top 10 defenses in 21 years as a starter?

 

[Who Not How]

Brady did the deep work other QBs didn't do that allowed him to make exponential jumps throughout his career. I don't feel like going in depth but there are plenty of other examples of people in every industry that have done what he did.

I'll say this tho.

Remember when Allen Iverson said "We talking about practice?"........yeah....there's no surprise he never won a ring with that mindset.

 

[premier58]

brady taught the world winning is not an individual pursuit*

This is some amateurish garbage because when it comes to production with context thrown in, the two best QB, performance wise, are Brady and Manning. It has absolutely nothing to do with winning.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Talent and skill are different. No there was not a big talent gap between Brady and the rest.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Manning had a losing record in the playoffs before his neck injury. Nothing u can say will change that. He wasnt lighting shyt up and struggle against 3-4 defenses.

Now post your thoughts on Rodgers' career so far. You seem more than happy to make excuses for him but Manning had more regular season success (MVPs) and team playoff success.

 

[IIVI]

Brady threw so many excellent passes right in stride. Check how easy dude makes some of these catches.


Look at the touch on some of these passes. Floats it up right into the pockets where two defenders can't get to it in intermediate routes.

Those are the throws that win games.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Achieving 10 Super Bowls with 7 victories transcends mere statistics; it's about intangibles beyond the field.

Brady's leadership and inspiration conceal team flaws, igniting a heightened level of play. This sentiment isn't fabricated; post-Super Bowl, Bucs players like Godwin, Winfield, Evans, White, Fournette all attested, saying "Brady made us better." Football involves a vast network from Monday to Saturday, extending beyond visible actions.

Dismissing Tebow comparisons, Brady has won more playoff games than Tebow even started. The success was not just the "Patriots way"; it was the "Brady way."

You forgot spying on your opponents for decades

I know the media swept the 2019 Spygate under the rug but it still happened.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Manning hid that he had one of the worst OL in all of the league for 10+ years.

Thing is, people really just can't accept that Brady had the most perfect timing,placement and organization of any player at any position ever.

He still had to perform under pressure. That's what separates him and Peyton. When the team needed a completion Brady delivered more than Manning.

 

[Bboystyle]

Now post your thoughts on Rodgers' career so far. You seem more than happy to make excuses for him but Manning had more regular season success (MVPs) and team playoff success.

Manning did not have more playoff success

He got carried his 2nd ring, literally. Rodgers is 6th all time in passer rating in the playoffs and has better numbers. Manning aint even top 20

Both are regular season QBs but manning is the better regular season QB. Id take Rodgers in the playoffs. U been emotional lately, wanna talk about it?