We Are the Generation That Doesn’t Want Relationships

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I'm not saying it's impossible, but I also don't think it's as definite as u put it. Not all women desire love and marriage/children, even in their older years. Not sure where ur from, but if it's any type of big city I can almost guarantee there are more never married, never mothers women who are 40, 50+ and are quite happy in life

People desire companionship, it's the curse we've acquired in being sentient beings. I actually just read an article about the British government considering it a health crisis in the fact that there are so many lonely elderly people with no one. That loneliness becomes a psychological issue which manifests itself in physical problems as well.

People need to kill the assumption that they're so above human contact. There are some individuals that can, but the majority don't fit that bill.

I won't post the article because it's pretty long, but here's the link.

Researchers Confront an Epidemic of Loneliness
 

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People desire companionship, it's the curse we've acquired in being sentient beings. I actually just read an article about the British government considering it a health crisis in the fact that there are so many lonely elderly people with no one. That loneliness becomes a psychological issue which manifests itself in physical problems as well.

People need to kill the assumption that they're so above human contact. There are some individuals that can, but the majority don't fit that bill.

I won't post the article because it's pretty long, but here's the link.

Researchers Confront an Epidemic of Loneliness
I'm told the same thing happens to the homeless.
 

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You didn't answer my question

Why SHOULD "meaningful" relationships take effort and hard work?

Why would you put voluntarily put yourself through additional stress when life is already stressful enough?

This is just some feel good Oprah/Tyler Perry rhetoric

"Oh chile work through the tough times if you REALLY luv somebody"

it's all nonsense
Because you live in a broken culture.
 

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Fall in love brehs & be in a relationship brehs:heh:

You nikkas just wasting your time. Lemme give you a spoiler: you end up either divorced or unhappily married if you even make it to that stage

If not, you end up forgetting about em after a while and carry on with your life on to the next bytch :francis:

Might as well just be a dog since women in the west aint shyt :ld:

See this is the problem. Stop being so negative looking at the people you shouldn't be messing with.
 

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Seems like this article is missing the larger scope of the issue which is, this generation wants things without having to actually work for them, this isn't limited to relationships.

"People of this generation want to be rich but instead of working hard to enjoy the trappings of their effort, they are content with giving the illusion that they rich by taking pictures in vehicles they don't own or holding fistfuls of cash that's destined for rent and utilities."

Too goddamn true. It's ridiculous. People who live like this towards relationships tend to be like to when it comes to jobs, friendships, money, and life. They want everything for nothing and are unrealistic. The moment they get something real, they screw it up.
 

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Maybe this is what happens when the 90 percent realize women only want the top ten percent
 

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Why should you WORK within a relationship? I never understood this concept.
Life is already stressful enough, fukk I look like constantly arguing and dealing with another persons bullshyt?

Man that shyt is for suckers, like I said western relationships are fukking trash

Moment you stop having fun in a relationship, bounce:heh:

Life is work, fool. You work whether you realize it or not whether it's typing up on here or thinking of excuses. If you are willing to spend time on here typing nonsense, then you have the time to put in work into a relationship.

There is no such thing as an effortless relationship. There is no such thing as a stress free life. There will be ups and downs. There will be joys and problems. Its the way and how you chose to manage them that makes the difference and that starts from how you choose to think. I see way too many people dreaming and fantasizing about fake shyt when it comes to real, serious shyt. These folks always end up on their ass. That's the way it is. If you can't understand those basic concepts then you are going to have a real hard time with life.
 

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Life is work, fool. You work whether you realize it or not whether it's typing up on here or thinking of excuses. If you are willing to spend time on here typing nonsense, then you have the time to put in work into a relationship.

There is no such thing as an effortless relationship. There is no such thing as a stress free life. There will be ups and downs. There will be joys and problems. Its the way and how you chose to manage them that makes the difference and that starts from how you choose to think. I see way too many people dreaming and fantasizing about fake shyt when it comes to real, serious shyt. These folks always end up on their ass. That's the way it is. If you can't understand those basic concepts then you are going to have a real hard time with life.
That's exactly what I'm talking about, can you not read?:heh:

Life is already stressful without voluntarily putting yourself through a relationship where you "have to make it work",

I'd rather just remain single sell women dreams

What the fukk is your point :mindblown:

Ol indoctrinated ass "love is hard" ass nikka

Tell that to men and women that live outside of the West :what:
 

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Devoid of a discussion of economics/law, this article is kind of useless to me.

I'm way more willing to take a shot with someone who I'm 80% sure I want to live my life with if I know it's not going to come at the cost of everything I've built for myself or not being able to see the kids I eventually have.

Also, as a dude who's been willing / ready to settle down, getting a woman who is compliant is way too difficult today. There are way too women who've bought into this notion that they're princesses or that you need to "put in work" to keep them while not expecting the same in return. Tell a woman she needs to workout, even in the softest, most collaborative way, and 9 times out of 10 you're going to be an a$$hole who's inconsiderate.

My problem is that there's barely any reciprocity left in relationships. Let me lose my job and take 12+ months to find one- very few women will shame another woman for leaving in that situation.

Expectations are so high for a lot of men, and the men facing the lowest expectations are the ones that are only willing to give hard dikk and bubble gum. It's fukked. The appeal of working what's essentially a 2nd job because of how a chick was raised, with her whims constantly validated and you being the person who needs to validate them for the rest of her life, is pretty unappealing unless the chick brings a whole bunch of other shyt to the table.

In essence, I've found women's lists of what they want is 100 items long and changes at least weekly, and they fault you when you fail to anticipate them. It can be managed with the right mindset, but that's one that sees them as children rather than equals.

On the other hand, most dudes just want the following from a girl:
1. look good / stay in shape enough so we wanna have sex with you
2*. cook / clean
3*. provide some kind of income
Note: * denotes optional

Layer on inequitable disposition of assets / custody in divorce to this dynamic, and you're gonna get a "Hell no" to committed relationships 98% of the time from dudes with options.

Great posting

There are the 3 types of guys I generally see today:

#1 This is the guy who is "traditional" and wants to be seen by everyone else as doing the "right" thing. He finds a girl he has known for a good amount of time from his social circle and settles down. On paper, everything looks great. In reality, this guy is suffering. He never really sexually courted his mate to begin with. Generally these types will be friend zoned for years and either because of their job, status, or some other benefit, the girl decides to settle down with him. These types of guys also fall prey to girls they're not even attracted to, but give them attention. The worst part about these guys is they have no say in their relationships. As their male friend, you have to be very careful with this type because they're quick to turn on you to save face.

#2 I'm seeing much more of this today. These guys see what's happening to guy #1 and don't want any part of that life. Yet they have yet to develop the skills to attract the kind of woman they do actually want. The end result is they stay single. There are varying degrees of happiness in this crowd. Some are ok with it while others still crave a relationship.

#3 This guy also doesn't want to end up like #1, but takes a different approach than #2. He might still be single, but allocates time to talking to different women. However, he doesn't place much value on any one interaction. Knowing all the media brainwashing out there, this guy knows many of the interactions are going to be a waste of time. The main thing is he keeps the time wasters from wasting his time. Generally guys in this category are working on goals that are beyond trying to find someone to settle down with.

Same, great posting. I'm somewhere between 2 and 3, and would say leaning towards 3 lately.

Like many have said, we're products of our environment. A lot of people (myself included, at times) believe we "deserve" something, and don't really think long-term. EVEYTHING now is about me, myself and I in society, and how can I get the most out of everything. And of moving on to the next "opportunity". That's how our model of socitey works now, so obviously relationships work that way too. Why stay in a job here when there might be a better one there? Same line of reasoning works in relationships.

Also, men have all kinds of images of women floatting everyone, Jay told us "On to the next one", all of that makes some men see women as damn near disposable items. And on the other hand, women are now more empowered and pushed to "take charge" of their lives, as they should be, but this can go "overboard" in the sense they feel like they're "settling" when really they have a good situation (not perfect, good). So if you add both, it's easy to understand how we got here. We all have much more opportunities (or feel that we do) than before, in all fields (work, relationship, personnal interests...), so we are constantly on the look-out for something "better".
 

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don't try to belittle me as if you're some sort of "real adult", I am also an adult. There are no real adults. You're just as clueless about life as I am. We're all just expressing our own interpretations and perspectives of things

& the Difference is, I don't fukk my friends and there's no exclusivity in friendship. When you're in a commited relationship like marriage, you're really stuck with that person as in legally binded to them for life.
All that sounds "make love work" shyt sounds good, but realistically when you're on this earth for maybe 80 years if you're lucky (60 years if you're a black man :mjcry:), who really has time to be in a committed relationship with someone who brings you stress?:francis:

Especially nowadays since everything in the west is all fukked up and its basically every one for themselves out here, you don't owe anybody shyt :ehh:
You sound like a child who thinks they figured out the secret
 
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