Weezy Going At Baby And Cash Money, Wants Off The Label

[360dagod]

My thing is this though: when Juvenile forced his way out of CMR, the independent route was popping at the time and there were lots of artists (even those with less name recognition) eating as free agents. It's not like Juvenile didn't have a name or a catalogue like some wet-behind-the-ears rapper trying to force his way into the game. Juvenile was a certified platinum rapper. Even if he had no offers on the table (though I doubt this for some reason), he probably would've been better off going independent, especially in the age of mixtapes and iTunes. You telling me that a focused Juvi couldn't have put out decent mixtapes and singles and ate? At the very least, he wouldn't have been a slave to a record label (least of all Baby's) and would've been his own man.

I do agree that, ultimately, Juvenile cannot make sound business/career decisions. Moreover, I think Juvi was afraid to step out of CMR's shadow and do for himself because of his fear of failure. Juvi got into the game when he was young and probably couldn't fathom life beyond CMR, which is a damn shame.

Stay in school and lawyer up before signing music industry contracts, brehs...

He tried the indie route after he left CMR...He did the UTP thing which went nowhere..Then he went back to CMR and did juve the great...Stunna paid some bread to him for that album...Which was still a discount based off what Juve was really owed

He then signed to Atlantic and released an album which went gold..

And then his career started going downhill...And that UTP shyt was dead in the water

I agree with what your saying though..Im sure Juve could have got himself bubbling to a point where he could have made a lil noise...

When it comes to Baby, he promotes the "lifestyle" which is the selling point..

The yachts, cars, women, and "family atmosphere"...That's how nikkas get caught up..

 

[Dwight Howard]

It is ASTOUNDING how stupid some of CMR's rappers allowed Baby to compensate them with luxury cars and jewelry instead of cash. Juvenile, Lil Wayne, Turk, B.G., Boo & Gotti....all those cats signed away their legal rights, masters, royalties, and image rights to Baby in exchange for a CMR-registered luxury cars and some platinum jewelry. If those cats had decent legal representation (or even common sense), they would've been eating millions based on their albums, tours, masters, etc.

Be uneducated, make ignorant music, and allow record label owners to compensate you with luxury items instead of cash, brehs...

I don't think Wayne is as broke as yall claim though..dude has a $20 mil dollar house plus other properties... $2 million dollar whip. Dude has enough assets to not go broke at this point. I'm not sure this dispute is about money...i think the fact Wayne, a rap legend, is being treated like a new artist is the problem. He also said his creativity was a prisoner so maybe that too...

 

[Ayo]

I don't think Wayne is as broke as yall claim though..dude has a $20 mil dollar house plus other properties... $2 million dollar whip. Dude has enough assets to not go broke at this point. I'm not sure this dispute is about money...i think the fact Wayne, a rap legend, is being treated like a new artist is the problem. He also said his creativity was a prisoner so maybe that too...

Assets? He's probably paying $xx,xxx a month in mortgages and car lease payments.

LOL at you guys thinking any celebrity or athlete owns even 90% of the stuff that they have.

When the money stops pouring in and you still have that $30,000 mortgage and all of those $2,000 car leases to pay every month that's when you start sweating bullets.

This is Lil Wayne being sober long enough to start sweating bullets.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Assets? He's probably paying $xx,xxx a month in mortgages and car lease payments.

LOL at you guys thinking any celebrity or athlete owns even 90% of the stuff that they have.

Point is. ..dude ain't broke. He just got off a tour a few months ago and has alot of endorsements.

 

[360dagod]

I don't think Wayne is as broke as yall claim though..dude has a $20 mil dollar house plus other properties... $2 million dollar whip. Dude has enough assets to not go broke at this point. I'm not sure this dispute is about money...i think the fact Wayne, a rap legend, is being treated like a new artist is the problem. He also said his creativity was a prisoner so maybe that too...

Its def about some money as well...Might not be the full reason but its definitely there somewhere...

Im sure he realizes at this point that Baby owe him mad bread...

 

[kingstl]

He tried the indie route after he left CMR...He did the UTP thing which went nowhere..Then he went back to CMR and did juve the great...Stunna paid some bread to him for that album...Which was still a discount based off what Juve was really owed

He then signed to Atlantic and released an album which went gold..

And then his career started going downhill...And that UTP shyt was dead in the water

I agree with what your saying though..Im sure Juve could have got himself bubbling to a point where he could have made a lil noise...

When it comes to Baby, he promotes the "lifestyle" which is the selling point..

The yachts, cars, women, and "family atmosphere"...That's how nikkas get caught up..

Artist: ...Ummm ...ehh emmm...when does the actual money/checks start coming in

: Plehboi.....when u came to us, u was sleeping on yo auntie couch, I put u in a beach front condo with yo wife. She got a Range Rover, you in a Ferrari, we eating steak and lobster for snacks, you got a Drake verse and now you still want mo Plehboi

Artist:

 

[William F. Russell]

I don't think Wayne is as broke as yall claim though..dude has a $20 mil dollar house plus other properties... $2 million dollar whip. Dude has enough assets to not go broke at this point. I'm not sure this dispute is about money...i think the fact Wayne, a rap legend, is being treated like a new artist is the problem. He also said his creativity was a prisoner so maybe that too...

Yeah, Wayne's been paid since 2006. But before then, he was getting jerked just like the others.

 

[Big Boss]

go to 1:50

 

[OC's finest]

I don't think Wayne is as broke as yall claim though..dude has a $20 mil dollar house plus other properties... $2 million dollar whip. Dude has enough assets to not go broke at this point. I'm not sure this dispute is about money...i think the fact Wayne, a rap legend, is being treated like a new artist is the problem. He also said his creativity was a prisoner so maybe that too...

do you think any of this is in his name



do you think he has no mortgage on a 20 milion dollar house



do you think when wayne goes on tour, he don't gotta kick back to CMR and birdman?





lil wayne is fuked yo

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

It is ASTOUNDING how stupid some of CMR's rappers allowed Baby to compensate them with luxury cars and jewelry instead of cash. Juvenile, Lil Wayne, Turk, B.G., Boo & Gotti....all those cats signed away their legal rights, masters, royalties, and image rights to Baby in exchange for a CMR-registered luxury cars and some platinum jewelry. If those cats had decent legal representation (or even common sense), they would've been eating millions based on their albums, tours, masters, etc.

Be uneducated, make ignorant music, and allow record label owners to compensate you with luxury items instead of cash, brehs...

what's ASTOUNDING about that??

that's been a common practice of the music industry going back to it's inception during the early 20th century.........

look at Cadillac Records and you see how that Record Label boss was giving Muddy Waters and Little Walter ...cadillacs and clothes

but no royalties......

hell you had the D.O.C sign away his publishing for a damn chain that Eazy E bought for him...

and the case of Bone Thugs and Harmony who Eazy E's wife reportedly gave them usuage of the limo to ride around town and get lifted off of a half pound of weed..while she raped their revenue........

hell I can tell you personally of a dude who did a significant amount of writing for a southern artist.....and the label got his publishing simply by giving him a chevy impala that wasn't even in his name Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue story.................

it's the same old capitalist relationship of the Pimp and Hoe described best in the movie "THE MACK"

"all byatches are the SAME..i keep em BROKE....I'll keep em looking pretty and all that...BUT NO DOUGH "

 

[William F. Russell]

what's ASTOUNDING about that??

that's been a common practice of the music industry going back to it's inception during the early 20th century.........

look at Cadillac Records and you see how that Record Label boss was giving Muddy Waters and Little Walter ...cadillacs and clothes

but no royalties......

hell you had the D.O.C sign away his publishing for a damn chain that Eazy E bought for him...

and the case of Bone Thugs and Harmony who Eazy E's wife reportedly gave them usuage of the limo to ride around town and get lifted off of a half pound of weed..while she raped their revenue........

hell I can tell you personally of a dude who did a significant amount of writing for a southern artist.....and the label got his publishing simply by giving him a chevy impala that wasn't even in his name Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue story.................

it's the same old capitalist relationship of the Pimp and Hoe described best in the movie "THE MACK"

"all byatches are the SAME..i keep em BROKE....I'll keep em looking pretty and all that...BUT NO DOUGH "

Doesn't take away the fact that artists, in this day and age (and even in the 90s/00s) were dumb enough to sign their rights away for material possessions.

Any artist with a decent lawyer and an ear to the music industry could've worked out a better deal than what those CMR rappers got.

And if the artists knew better and still opted to receive luxury items instead of money, then they deserve where they're at currently.

 

[Banned Account12]

It is ASTOUNDING how stupid some of CMR's rappers allowed Baby to compensate them with luxury cars and jewelry instead of cash. Juvenile, Lil Wayne, Turk, B.G., Boo & Gotti....all those cats signed away their legal rights, masters, royalties, and image rights to Baby in exchange for a CMR-registered luxury cars and some platinum jewelry. If those cats had decent legal representation (or even common sense), they would've been eating millions based on their albums, tours, masters, etc.

Be uneducated, make ignorant music, and allow record label owners to compensate you with luxury items instead of cash, brehs...

kinda like Cadillac Records the movie

 

[fukkyalifestyle]

wayne got like 4 kids or something? thats alot of child support, he def will be broke one day.

 

[Vodun]

some Christmas fukkery

yo da fukk? yo i'm dead

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Doesn't take away the fact that artists, in this day and age (and even in the 90s/00s) were dumb enough to sign their rights away for material possessions.

Any artist with a decent lawyer and an ear to the music industry could've worked out a better deal than what those CMR rappers got.

And if the artists knew better and still opted to receive luxury items instead of money, then they deserve where they're at currently.

it's not just lack of INTELLIGENCE

it's more so DESPERATION and allowing thier EMOTIONS to over ride THIER reasoning

what is common in that Caddilac records movie and the Baby Wayne situation

is they (the artists) saw the BUSINESS MAN as THIER DADDY

I've encountered these "relationships" often.....amongst grown a$s men

I remember being giving the task of managing an artist for a fledgling Indy label

and it came about cause the BOSS didn't feel like "babysitting" the artist and doing things beyond the nature of the contract

and I understand

pretty soon I was giving this man transportation to his sessions and shows and putting food in his fridge and getting his baby mama to classes on time

and then he catches feelings cause the BOSS won't allow him his Master Recordings as he was exiting

it's pathetic

and it's not just the Music game....

boxer Antonio Tarver just signed to Al Haymon so he can not only pay off his gambling debts to a Vegas casino but food and shelter as well cause he was HOMELESS after AL HAYMON paid debts and bailed him outta jail...

SO AS HE SAID HE IS FIGHTING TO REPAY HIS DEBT

so nothing surprised me about the Wayne situation

When u see a guy who basically been TAKEN CARE of BABY since a preteen

but as Beanie Sigel says There is a DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAMILY AND RELATIVES

And EMOTIONALY driven artists NEED TO LEARN THAT