Westside Gunn Makes It Clear On Eminem Promoting The Alchemist’s New Album

[Starburst]

Interesting I thought Conway was too

No. Only Westside Gunn and Benny have Roc Nation management deals.

 

[H.J.Duck]

Shady Records posted his shyt when it dropped and Em retweeted it Lol Westside Gunn been saying slick shyt about Shady for a minute..

Came here to say this, lol

 

[Starburst]

Well alchemist and action Bronson are whyte....c’mon man what y’all expect

Action Bronson isn’t, and has never been signed to Shady..

Alchemist has been an associate of Eminem’s for over ten years, so why wouldn’t he want to support his friend?

 

[Starburst]

Yep Royce has been saying that even Em himself is in a bad record contract (considering Em's financial condition at the time he signed, his deal is probably worst than Black Rob's ). Cats been saying since sohh that Em is only the face of Shady, cats on here still fail to believe that. Bizarre and Obie told me the same thing.

Not disputing what Obie and Bizarre say, but Riggs Morales said after he left that Eminem is very much involved in the day to day, and projects have to go through him.

Paul is in the process of starting another label imprint, I want to say with Universal to promote other genres which makes sense, because from my understanding, Eminem wants to keep Shady very boutique like, and in its own niche in terms of the talent he signs.

 

[NormanConnors]

Not disputing what Obie and Bizarre say, but Riggs Morales said after he left that Eminem is very much involved in the day to day, and projects have to go through him.

Paul is in the process of starting another label imprint, I want to say with Universal to promote other genres which makes sense, because from my understanding, Eminem wants to keep Shady very boutique like, and in its own niche in terms of the talent he signs.

I was talking about his deal as an artist, they said the same thing Royce said. Breh still hasnt been able to make music 'exactly' how he wants yet. Now as an executive/suit role maybe he's learned enough on the job . I can see him taking over/being more hands on if Paul is in process of relinquishing for other ventures.

 

[Hood Critic]

...but Riggs Morales said after he left that Eminem is very much involved in the day to day, and projects have to go through him.

Those are just words but actions say differently. Every label head who is involved in day to day operations of their label is actively visible in some form or fashion in actually doing so - especially rapper label heads.

Marshall is a recluse for his own reasons, we all know this. We also know that the label does not have a large number of acts nor are those acts releasing regular projects or actively promoting existing projects, so what kind of day to day operations would he be managing? Recording? Have we seen pics or heard snippets of anyone in the lab? Very few are touring and doing shows in the industry as a whole so he can't be coordinating that. And he just recently dropped his own project. Its essentially Aftermath 2.0, a label banner for the head to have an obscene budget to work at his own pace.

 

[Starburst]

Those are just words but actions say differently. Every label head who is involved in day to day operations of their label is actively visible in some form or fashion in actually doing so - especially rapper label heads.

Marshall is a recluse for his own reasons, we all know this. We also know that the label does not have a large number of acts nor are those acts releasing regular projects or actively promoting existing projects, so what kind of day to day operations would he be managing? Recording? Have we seen pics or heard snippets of anyone in the lab? Very few are touring and doing shows in the industry as a whole so he can't be coordinating that. And he just recently dropped his own project. Its essentially Aftermath 2.0, a label banner for the head to have an obscene budget to work at his own pace.

you mean visible like Diddy? We all know how this ends...

Respectfully, not being visible is not indicative of not working...

I’m just stating to you what a former employee said publicly. However, Shady has a unique business model, so I’m not sure if it’s fair to compare them to other labels..

 

[Hood Critic]

you mean visible like Diddy? We all know how this ends...

Respectfully, not being visible is not indicative of not working...

Respectfully, that's a horrible example.

 

[Starburst]

Respectfully, that's a horrible example.

Well, it might be extreme, but in my opinion still a fair example of a hip hop label heads visibility...

 

[Starburst]

I was talking about his deal as an artist, they said the same thing Royce said. Breh still hasnt been able to make music 'exactly' how he wants yet. Now as an executive/suit role maybe he's learned enough on the job . I can see him taking over/being more hands on if Paul is in process of relinquishing for other ventures.

Eminem should stop playing and just hire me...

 

[Threnody]

That wack ass nikka should shut the fukk up and be glad he got the deal

This is why you shouldn't big up bum ass nikkas yo this nikka music too trash to be wondering why

Al shyt is dope, his drums knock

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Well alchemist and action Bronson are whyte....c’mon man what y’all expect

Is Action signed to Shady?

Honestly I'm surprised Em tweeted anything for Alc. Alc been his DJ for over a decade and didn't get a placement on a single Em album until whatever the one that came out this year was called. Denaun Porter's been Em's close friend since before fame and rarely gets any beat placements.

Royce seems like the only person in Em's circle that is more or less guaranteed support as well as beat placements and features on Em albums.

The deal with Griselda always seemed like a transaction type deal and not an organic deal. At least with Slaughterhouse they had the direct line to Em through Royce's friendship with Em, and their content was more lyrical/miracle type stuff that Em could relate to.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Roc Nation makes sure all their releases are front and center on TIDAL, like other major releases.

As stated before, Roc Nation opens them up to collaborating with other big artists who are signed to them in one way or another. Benny’s album is produced entirely by Hit Boy who is on fire, who is a Roc Nation artist/producer. Big Sean is also Roc Nation, and appears on the album. Hov himself got Freddie Gibbs (non Roc Nation artist) to appear on one of the best (if not best) songs on the album.

There’s a reason you never hear them complain about them.

Benny just had the biggest 1st week sales Griselda has ever seen, so it’s building. I never really expect them to do crazy numbers, because their music will never be Pop.

I think they would shyt on Roc Nation if they weren’t handling business, but they see Hov genuinely supports their movement, so it’s nothing but love.

didn’t he sell 18k first week?

If that’s all you can get out of those features and Rocnation taking 10% then you’re not in a better position

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Alchemist was smart to drop on his birthday I'm sure that had something to do with Em tweeting it


But yeah Shady has done jack shyt for Griselda

 

[_genocidecutter_]

Screw Em