Albums Westside Gunn x Conway x Alchemist - Hall & Nash 2 (Discussion Thread)

[Xtz23]

Samples can be expensive to clear and eat into royalty payments. Unless you're selling a lot of records or are signed to someone who is willing to handle shyt for you (Dreamville/Cole via Interscope for instance when it comes to the less popular artists on that label) a lot of labels don't want to pay out for that shyt today. Westside, Conway etc have struggled to chart on Billboard so the label will always want to cut costs. That's why Beat Butcha and Hit Boy are constantly on those albums. They make a lot of beats without samples or do interpolations, and the label just pays the flat fee for the track, plus whatever the publishing split is. VS having to pay that plus clear the sample and pay publishing to the sampled artist every time the record sales/streams.

I remember Alchemist waiving his fees or taking no publishing just to help get beats cleared for Interscope. He did that for Break The Bank, off Oxymoron @TheDarceKnight and prob did it for other tracks. Flip side when he's on a massive album like Drake's recent deluxe or the last two Kendrick albums, he knows the budget is infinite and doesn't have to worry about that stuff. If the label knows the album is going to sell, or believes it's going to sell, they're more open to clearing shyt.

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[Xtz23]

Double

 

[Xtz23]

hall and nash 2 (outro) bangs too hard That guitar the productions sonically on the level of Hoover street og

Edit: @TheDarceKnight is there any chance we get that Hoover street og released on mp3 & streaming or on a alc edition project some time in the near future? that shyt is too fire. There’s some kraft singles on streaming but that one’s missing. Another thing I hope we get is a couple of alc/prodigy projects including the mobb deep album. Also it’d be great to get a project of prodigy/alc unreleased tracks, I kno they got a bunch of fire in the vault from past years

 

[Xtz23]

This is all I’ve been bumping. Every song hits, 5 mics! Top 5 griselda project and really high up there for alc projects

 

[TheDarceKnight]

hall and nash 2 bangs too hard That guitar the productions sonically on the level of Hoover street og

Edit: @TheDarceKnight is there any chance we get that Hoover street og released on mp3 & streaming or on a alc edition project some time in the near future? that shyt is too fire. There’s some kraft singles on streaming but that one’s missing. Another thing I hope we get is a couple of alc/prodigy projects including the mobb deep album. Also it’d be great to get a project of prodigy/alc unreleased tracks, I kno they got a bunch of fire in the vault from past years

Yeah man this album's fire. Definitely a top shelf Griselda release.

P and Alc definitely had another solo finished after Albert Einstein. And a Mobb Deep album fully produced by Alc too. I hope we get those one day.

I don't really expect to ever get Hoover Street on streaming or anything like that. It's the better part of a decade old and Q drops music so infrequently...and Alc seems so busy with his current work...I just don't see it coming back to the forefront unless they do a special edition of Oxymoron one day or something like that. Or maybe if Alc does a Cutting Room Floor Volume 4.

 

[Xtz23]

Yeah man this album's fire. Definitely a top shelf Griselda release.

P and Alc definitely had another solo finished after Albert Einstein. And a Mobb Deep album fully produced by Alc too. I hope we get those one day.

I don't really expect to ever get Hoover Street on streaming or anything like that. It's the better part of a decade old and Q drops music so infrequently...and Alc seems so busy with his current work...I just don't see it coming back to the forefront unless they do a special edition of Oxymoron one day or something like that. Or maybe if Alc does a Cutting Room Floor Volume 4.

I hope we can get kilo in the trunk/need my bread. I have a feeling tde will pump up that we will get a schoolboy q album back to form like oxymoron and blank face after that garbage that is crash talk. Or they could just fukk it up too but we’ll c…


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We need those prodigy alc albums asap

 

[Supa]

Penthouse, two stoves
Dome shot made him Tootsie Roll
Walk up in your hood like fukk y'all
They ain't see my lil nikka ducked off
Fork in the coke pot tryna make a billion

Fork in the coke pot tryna make a billion



I keep forgetting Schoolboy Q is on the song. I just play it over once Conway's verse ends and Gunn does the hook. The only misstep on the album is Q's weak ass verse.

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

I was sleep.

Not a big Griselda fan...but this is flames

 

[Zero]

Nah, hungry Conway was a fukkin problem

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

All the Shady released projects are almost entirely sample free. WWCD, GDMM, and WMTSS.

The stuff I heard 2nd hand was that Shady didn't want to clear the samples for this album, and Conway, Gunn, and Alc didn't want to remake the beats without samples.

Hall & Nash 2 was finished before they signed to Shady, so it was a different situation than WWCD where they went into it knowing there couldn't be samples and having the work around of Beat Butcha making original sounds and music for Daringer and Alchemist to chop up and loop. If they'd signed to Shady first they might've made H&N2 that same way.

Arent there big sample libraries, where you can sample for a few dollars? Small artist from around the world Upload their music to these libraries. There should be some dope stuff in there.

 

[HARLEM AL]

just finished listening to this in its totality. This shyt that old Griselda shyt. It’s like they recaptured where was at back in the days.

The fukking Guitars Alc sampled on this shyt was filthy.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

just finished listening to this in its totality. This shyt that old Griselda shyt. It’s like they recaptured where was at back in the days.

The fukking Guitars Alc sampled on this shyt was filthy.

Right? It was recorded in 2016 so it’s got that vintage sound to it.

 

[REAL6]

Arent there big sample libraries, where you can sample for a few dollars? Small artist from around the world Upload their music to these libraries. There should be some dope stuff in there.

Splice or tracklib i believe.

 

[KingsOfKings]

Splice or tracklib i believe.

Yeah I believe so.

 

[Ironman]

Finally bumped this earlier today ayo