What is wrong with women these days?

[Neuromancer]

What y'all "are" still needs to be established. I don't see why this is a problem. Women like that security sh, if a chick ain't on you about "what are we?" and y'all are acting

like y'all are in a relationship then you got bigger problems on your hands.

How does this help op not get cheated on?

 

[Abstract83]

I bet all y'all nikkas who's saying he's a simp or feminine for wanting a title are the same ones who would shyt bricks if you found out you shared your girl.

The way the game is played today, there NEEDS to be a conversation about what y'all "are", what type of relationship y'all have between

each other and where it's heading. There are too many people out here who thought they were in a committed, exclusive relationship only to find out

the person was fuccing other people and it was fine because there was no "title" because they never talked about it.

If he wants a committed relationship he should end it. Or just date other women while dating her. Live life stay busy. If she feeling u she'll come around. Im not patient enough to see if she would just come around. Keep stackin up the stable. Don't feel guilty. U are single. U dont have to prove shyt if she's not giving u a commitment. U dont owe her anything. If ur a good n1gga she'll see that.

 

[Nomadum]

I read your thesis..you were in a relationship.

I agree that we did all the things a couple does/did (Long phone calls, movies, dinner, hanging out, sleeping over, etc. etc.) but I don't think I was in a relationship for the simple fact that she never saw it as one. I was just her "trooper" and "boo" never her "man". infact, one text argument we got into this chick says (after I ignored her call's and text's for a day) "If you were my man and ignored my calls, you'd learn what happens" basically saying she would fukk off with another nikka for her man not answering her calls .

@Nomadum Basically you are a rebound. We've all been there before, so no biggie. But if you are dealing with American or Americanized women, being aloof is the best deal. Smash when you can and try to find one that is not dumb and is down for what you are looking for. Most women in America like to be treated bad. Why? I really don't know. When I was young, I treated women bad. Now older, I just don't like doing that shyt. But women love it.

Yea, I agree with the being a rebound. as I told her before I felt she was only fukking with me until she healed up and felt I was cool to fukk with because I was "safe". she always told me I made her feel comfortable and happy, but whatever.

or she wanted to weigh her options while having a good thing going with OP.

I agree with that.

they absolutely were in a relationship

thats why its a problem that old girl wanted to play and beat around the bush and not agree that they were in a relationship
hell it was early, but this chick didnt even want to say were working towards a relationship

then try to hit him with all kinds of mixed signals
fukk the shyt out of him
spend all kinds of time with him
get mad at him saying hey to another woman?

naw bytch. you dont get to have it both ways.

agreed

Well that is American way of dating, which is why there are a lot of failure in relationships here. Too many stupid rules. Don't do this and do that until__________. smh

agreed

That's what you've been doing the whole time

Nah, because I ain't pressured her on some "if you don't say we in a relationship then I'll do x,y,z or won't do x,y,z". I never pressured her, I just bought it up at opportune times.

Yo, OP's story is like the black version of 500 Days of Summer lol.

But yeah, interesting hearing a dude say all this because that same scenario in reverse has played out so many times that it's almost a cliche at this point. the mixed signals, the indecisiveness, the "what are we?" question, the hypocritical "I don't wanna be exclusive but I'll still get jealous when you talk to other people" steez. Any dude who has done that whole thing to a chick knows that in our heads she's good enough to smash and kick it with but not good enough in our eyes to wife up. and the same applies to women who do that to men. if she really wanted a relationship with you she wouldn't be wishy washy.

You didn't get friendzoned, you got jumpoff zoned homie. Only a minor L though, at least you got some p*ssy out of it. As others have said move on. Plenty of women out here who actually wanna get wifed up and are dreaming of a dude who actually wants commitment. As long as you don't simp too hard you'll be a unicorn to them.

lol, never read/saw 500 days of Summer but will check it out. and at me getting hoe'd zoned though .

not saying it's right or wrong; the game is the game doe. to succeed, a breh needs to know the rules.

at least in the initial stages, a chick should not be getting full devotion or the open book on you. brehs gotta protect themselves. these chicks got 5 different options at the same time, and while you're pouring it all out to her, she looking at you like you're a tolerable fool

I understand the gist of the message, just never felt the need to play games. figured being a upfront dude with a dame would be a good thing, but in the words of cam...

Women who get into relationships with cheaters and abusers because they're re-enacting childhood trauma. They're afraid of intimacy and getting hurt like their father did to them. Yet they recreate the same thing in their romantic relationships. Subconsciously they know a relationship with an abuser has no future which means no chance for real intimacy and thus they won't get hurt as bad. You come in, the nice guy who provides real intimacy and emotional connection and she can't handle it. She has to pull away and sabotage the relationship. Throw her in the bushes unless she commits to you and the relationship.

She is adopted, and her adoption is some wild shyt. so she craves a strong family bond/household (from what she expressed to me) but I agree with the subconsciously finding fukked up shyt to make it her reality.

You shoulda went back and got that bytch.

slime said she was walking in circles talking to herself, he would've been murdered lmao.

according to his writeup, they was spending a lot of time together.
Most girls who just want a hook up dont got time for the phone sex and facetiming all day...thats some lovey dovey relationship type ish

Then how she gon come out a toxic relationship and have the heart to juggle all these nikkas shes supposedly fukking behind OP's back.

shyt was simple, he was in a relationship but she was emotionally scarred and couldnt acknowledge shes was back in another one so soon.
He didnt even give ol' girl time to digest the shyt, nikka was only 2 weeks in or some shyt.

Now, at first I was like "Nah, we spending too much time together for her to cheat." I felt like, if she found the time to cheat then she a bad motherfukker and I'm not ready for her. but as time went on, little shyt would happen that just didn't make sense to me and then I began to suspect some odd shyt but by then I was already disconnecting.

Lol@trying to force a cchic into a relationship....worrying about titles and ish. You a female

lmao, sure you right.

He should knock her up and get put on child support. Then blow up her phone when he has the kid and she's out on a date, begging her to marry him on her voicemail.

nikka what?!?!?!

boy is u gay?

how can I be gay for wanting to be with a female? I just don't get coli logic at times.

Japanese chicks easy p*ssy, you know English you good

*mentally noted

Exactly

That simp chronicle shyt

I've never begged a female to be in a relationship IN MY LIFE

Where did I say I begged for a relationship?

Let's get this clear, I not once said "Please be in a relationship with me." I never begged her.

But, if choosing these types of girls is a pattern for OP, as in this as happened multiple times, then something is also wrong with him. This girl doesn't sound that broken though to me, I think she's just afraid and can possibly commit, but what OP wants is a real relationship and so if she won't agree with those wants then OP should move on with his life and not wait for her to sort her own bullshyt out.

Might be right breh and I can't even be mad at it, I might be attracted to emotionally fukked up women. I do see a pattern with my ex's but goddamn, I can't be striking out left and right this much lmao.

"What's wrong with women"? What's wrong with you? Writing long faggy essays about a broad cuz she won't settle down with you. Gay

Gay because I like a female I want a relationship with. right

You sound like a female
Why you tryna force her into a relationship
You never asked her the real question you needed to "Is she fukking someone else" probably is
But why you mad when she is keeping it honest with u
being mad at all women because she is not doing what you want makes no sense
she is not obligated to be in a relationship with u no matter how nice you are to her

Sound like a female for wanting to be with a female?

How many times do you have to ask her?

She is not into you, you are just a place holder until something better comes along.

Pick up your self esteem and keep it moving.

Respect

When you become emotionally invested in women you lose almost every time

It's really not that deep.

As much as I hate to agree with this, that's real.

Damn, got to where i thought this long-ass story should've ended and then there were like 8 more paragraphs.

Not to offend you, but you were acting like a bytch bro. Only good thing you did was check the bytch when she got out of pocket, but pressuring women to be in relationships trust me I been there before so I can speak on it. You can't make someone commit to you bro and if you do force them it's only going to end badly because she will resent you for it. Throwing tantrums n shyt cause she doesn't wanna be your girl just yet man calm down

Again, wasn't pressuring her and definitely wasn't acting like a bytch. I never raised my voice at her, never cursed her out. when she would do little dumb shyt and needed to hear some sternness in my voice, I applied enough for her to know I wasn't playing or bullshytting. but never did I throw a tantrum, I wouldn't date myself if I did that shyt. give a nikka a lil' credit breh.

never heard of a dude begging a girl to be in a relationship my whole life. lmao

You nikkas need to define begging because begging in my eye's is saying "please" and on knee's.

So here's the deal, you are into a girl who was in an abusive relationship. That takes time to get over, because basically what happens is your perception and your Brain chemistry gets messed with- every man or human being has the potential to use and abuse her like he did.

So the mistake that happened is you and her got sexual way too quick. That's a big red flag.That means either that she doesn't trust your intentions (using her for sex) or that she thinks all you want is sex from her. Either way You are absorbing all of her ex's qualities, whether she wants you to or not. She also could be giving in to your desires, giving you want you want telling you want you want to hear and making her body respond to it because that's how her brain knows to relate to men right now. Remember she can't trust her own instincts right now because they betrayed her in the past. So demanding a relationship (which is your perogative) and flirting with others in front of her = blast from the past. Right now that's just how her brain works, it's chemical. She may be apologetic but trust she is going back and forth on what to believe on the inside.


If anything she's not ready for you. She needs time to retrain her brain. She's not ready for a relationship. Probably best to drop her and let her heal.

Real shyt.

I bet all y'all nikkas who's saying he's a simp or feminine for wanting a title are the same ones who would shyt bricks if you found out you shared your girl.

The way the game is played today, there NEEDS to be a conversation about what y'all "are", what type of relationship y'all have between

each other and where it's heading. There are too many people out here who thought they were in a committed, exclusive relationship only to find out

the person was fuccing other people and it was fine because there was no "title" because they never talked about it.

Is there something specifically you're looking for in a woman that's eluding you?

A female that's not playing games, a dame I can trust and who gone motivate a nikka to be the best man I can be. in return, I'm trying to help her be the best her she can be. guess that's some simp shyt tho

You let that bytch string you along and fell for her bullshyt games

She's not trying to be held down period. If a woman isn't enthusiastic when you offer her a relationship, do not take her seriously and just move on.

true shyt.

Honestly by the 4th paragraph I just stopped giving a fukk.... maybe its you homie..

might be homie.

 

[Spin]

I'm saying monogamy wasn't common in them or favored.
Why We Think Monogamy Is Normal

Interesting article. It really does seem that forced monogamy is a form of control. Like the article pointed out in systems such as today it allows those in charge to wage wars for power. Notice all the "expendable" troops governments send to war with most of them being from lower middle class. The elites don't send their own kids. You also see in our society today people with power often have multiple partners and or use the services of escorts. Yet society forces try's to force the common man to be loyal to one woman only.

The other side of trying to force a man to only have one woman is that it keeps power in the hands of those who already have it. If every man was comfortable acquiring multiple woman at one time, his masculine energy would naturally radiate to a higher degree and it would be a threat. Instead what we now have is a large segment of beta males that are non threats to the current power structure.

To the op in the thread, in your situation it appears you wanted something more than your partner. It's almost as if you forced your thinking into limiting yourself. As a man you should always give yourself options so you come off as the prize and not needy. It's no secret woman are attracted to men that already have the interest of other woman. No woman wants a needy man. That itself gives more validity that monogamy might just be a forced idea. I'm not saying you should never settle down with one person, but in your situation it was definitely too early to even be considering that option.

 

[Shadow King]

The OP is not wrong in my opinion. They behaving like a couple so why not establish "we are a couple". It's not the cool, suave, hard hearted approach preached on here but think if she is entertaining someone else and he keeps "going with the flow" he's getting relationship illusions when it's a casual reality. That's a real L IMO.

That being said OP she ain't ready so cut her off.

 

[Nomadum]

The OP is not wrong in my opinion. They behaving like a couple so why not establish "we are a couple". It's not the cool, suave, hard hearted approach preached on here but think if she is entertaining someone else and he keeps "going with the flow" he's getting relationship illusions when it's a casual reality. That's a real L IMO.

That being said OP she ain't ready so cut her off.

true shyt and been done breh.

 

[Deutsche Bank]

never heard of a dude begging a girl to be in a relationship my whole life. lmao

Yeah, that was a big fukking mistake. Shouldn't ever negotiate from a position of weakness/desperation, especially from a dikk juggling ass female down to play bullshyt games to improve her illusory self-esteem.

In other news, you lowlife gangbanging neighborhood destroying motherfukking sonofabytch a$$hole unwashed b*stard.

 

[Deutsche Bank]

The OP is not wrong in my opinion. They behaving like a couple so why not establish "we are a couple". It's not the cool, suave, hard hearted approach preached on here but think if she is entertaining someone else and he keeps "going with the flow" he's getting relationship illusions when it's a casual reality. That's a real L IMO.

That being said OP she ain't ready so cut her off.

Nah, they ain't behaving like a couple. They are fukking, and jacking off n flicking beans to phone secks. They're a couple of dumbass kids getting their rocks off.

 

[Shadow King]

Nah, they ain't behaving like a couple. They are fukking, and jacking off n flicking beans to phone secks. They're a couple of dumbass kids getting their rocks off.

He also said they were hanging out everyday and going on actual dates. It wasn't just some "oh we having fun" or just hit me up when your horny shyt. At least not for him anyway.

 

[Deutsche Bank]

He also said they were hanging out everyday and going on actual dates. It wasn't just some "oh we having fun" or just hit me up when your horny shyt. At least not for him anyway.

They have nothing to build a decent family from, which is the purpose of relationships. Despite what these scheming immoral Jew b*stards tell you negroes. She had said multiple times she was a whore not interested in being honorable. Next!

Stop giving these stupid whores entertainment if you're out here looking for a Michelle. They'll be knocked up by some shythead in record time, so know your worth and let it go. Find a buyer with tons more capital than this bullshytting ass goofball bytch.

 

[Suleiman Bey]

Both yall dumb. Why you in a rush to claim in her if everything going good. Let that shyt be what it's gon be. Claiming her ain't gon stop her from cheating or whatever. Her not claiming you ain't gonna keep her from getting hurt. People are so fukkin stupid.

 

[ezrathegreat]

You know what they say, "If you have to ask, it's a no".

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

OP you kinda sound selfish. She clearly told you she needs time to heal but you don't really seem to care b/c you seem to only want what you want. The chick said old boy was controlling and here you come trying to pressure her into a relationship and you wonder why she ain't jumping at the chance to be with you?

Why can't you just enjoy her and let the relationship and trust build. fukking and hanging out doesn't make a relationship. Problem with modern day relationships is they really only seems to be about controlling what the other person does sexually.

You don't even know this person and she has told you she is not mentally stable enough for a relationship yet this is the person you want? Your thirsty and need to do some introspection on why you want a person who is not mentally stable and whom you don't know as a person to "build" with.

 

[StickStickly]

OP you kinda sound selfish. She clearly told you she needs time to heal but you don't really seem to care b/c you seem to only want what you want. The chick said old boy was controlling and here you come trying to pressure her into a relationship and you wonder why she ain't jumping at the chance to be with you?

Why can't you just enjoy her and let the relationship and trust build. fukking and hanging out doesn't make a relationship. Problem with modern day relationships is really only seems to be about controlling what the other person does sexually.

You don't even know this person and she has told you she is not mentally stable enough for a relationship yet this is the person you want? Your thirsty and need to do some introspection on why you want a person who is not mentally stable and whom you don't know as a person to "build" with.

That's true. He's coming off as another controller whether he intends to or not. It's really not her fault OP. Relationships are probably scary for her right now; don't force her into something when she's already emotionally damaged. You're just recreating trauma, not something new or helpful. You're extending the control factor into the relationship with her. When you took her aside and told her not to embarrass you in front of people...yikes

 

[Drew Wonder]

lol, never read/saw 500 days of Summer but will check it out. and at me getting hoe'd zoned though .

You should watch it. The whole plot of the movie is pretty much exactly what you went through