what the **** happened to rnb????

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The problem is there arent any many real R&B producers out there. I mean people who can actually create music and can craft a record where the music and vocals enhance each other. Now its just people singing over rap beats. The music is nothing more than a generic looped sample that would be right at home on a no name nikkas mixtape or some dude playing a simple piano riff.

When is the last time you heard a record with some music on it that was fukking with Kool and the Gang, Ohio Players, Stevie Wonder, Chaka Khan, or Earth Wind and Fire,

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Did someone just mention Jeremih??? :dead::laff::laff:

Anyways, as mentioned before. R&B just aint in the maintream like it used to be. Back in the day you could turn on the radio and see great video, songs with MEANINGFUL lyrics, excellent production, artists with class, style, and susbstance.....I dont know what happened but sh1t changed somewhere in the early 2000s mainstream wise.


We went from doowop, the soul/motown era in the 70's (marvin, stevie, aretha, earth wind and fire etc), to disco (sister sledge, donna summer etc), to the boogie/post disco era of the early 80s (evelyn champagne king, d-train, sos band etc) to new jack swing (karyn white, jody watley, al b sure, jodeci, guy etc) to the hiphop soul era (mary j, swv, aaliyah, ginuwine, etc), to the late 90s/early 2000s (carl thomas, donell jones, erykah, jill etc).... then that it was a wrap.

The last "group" of cats that came out in that early 2000's era was the last time R&B in the mainstream was good to me. That Carl Thomas, Musiq, Dave Hollister (solo), Donell Jones, Erykah Badu etc era. Then mainstream R&B went downhill. Now instead of having the music in front of you like we used to, you have to get up and go and look for it and REALLY look cause sh1t isnt out there like its supposed to be or how it used to be, which I believe isnt fair at all.

Most of the good r&b is sh1t that is considered Urban AC (Adult Contemporary) and appears mostly on UAC R&B charts and Urban AC radio. Thats the only R&B I can fukk with in terms of this eras R&B these days.

Sh1t like this...











[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUXXhRlXFkk"]Lalah Hathaway - Let Go - YouTube[/ame]

Had songs like these been released in the early 2000s and prior, they would be huge R&B hits, but in todays world? Sadly they mostly get ignored in the mainstream, with a few exceptions of course.

Its sad when all the techno pop garbage and fake wannabe sh1t like Rihanna, Jeremih, Drake, Trey Songz etc. are called "R&B". :snoop:
 
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where are the classic, aaliyah,tlc, b2men , keith sweat mary j, 112,r kelly , usher, jaheim , eric robinson , jodeci , carl thomas , faith evans etc albums at.....

not that rnb vs house shyt anno 2013......

goddayummn

Weeknd, Frank Ocean or Miguel >>>>>> anything you named
 

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i'm looking at the past grammy award r&b nomination list and i'm like :snoop:

Best R&B Performance
» Estelle - "Thank You"
» Robert Glasper Experiment feat. Ledisi - "Gonna Be Alright (F.T.B.)
» Luke James - "I Want You"
» Miguel - "Adorn"
» Usher - "Climax"

Best R&B Album
» Robert Glasper Experiment, Black Radio
» Anthony Hamilton, Back To Love
» R. Kelly, Write Me Back
» Tamia, Beautiful Surprise
» Tyrese, Open Invitation
Dont sleep on the Robert Glasper album. It rightfully won and is a real R&B album. No gimmicky stuff. The R. Kelly joint was good too. Not as good as Love Letter, but still cool.

even r&b singers these days well the majority at least suck

donnell jones just dropped some new fire a lil while back tho

Donell Jones - Forever - YouTube

:yes: Donell is always on point, and Forever is fire.
 

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i'll just leave this here...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4E5bKUM_g]Chrisette Michele - Audrey Hepburn: An Audiovisual Presentation [full mixtape] - YouTube[/ame]

*i absolutely HATE that she had to put 2 chainz and wale on this shyt. i swear i fukkin' hate major labels....:aicmon::wow:
 

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Old R&B :blessed:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuJplFmZPiU]Keith Sweat - Make It Last Forever - [Full Album] (1987) - YouTube[/ame]
 

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Rashad blessed us with Museum this year. Donell Jones, Joe dropped some nice singles, Avant, Q. Parker from 112 released solid albums, nikkaz just need to dig a lil bit.
 

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Aaliyah's voice sounded heavenly to me:yeshrug:

Chrisette Michelle came out with the beautiful Soul R&B albums: I AM and Epiphany, then Def Jam

nearly dismantled her career when they let her switched up her style on her last album. But her new song, is promising that she's back in her r&b/soul/jazz lane :whew:

And, Ohio singer Rashad's Museum is a nice current R&B album :obama:
 

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Aaliyah the Christmas song live Christmas in Washington - YouTube

You don't have to be a powerhouse to be a good singer.

dog. just stop it.

and its not just about her lack of vocals. its the fact that she didn't bring anything else to the table musically to compensate for it. she was the product of the people around her. and that's cool, as long as you know to just appreciate it for what its worth.

shes no different from the artists of this era that people are tearing down.

when she died, they started propping her up as some sort of quintessential artist and you youngns swallowed it.

Its out there, but they don't play it for this new gay stuff they play everyday. but here is the new music

Avant - You & I ft. KeKe Wyatt - YouTube
The-Dream - IV Play - YouTube
Urban Mystic - In the Morning ft. MDMA (Official Video).mp4 - YouTube

yea, the avant/keke song was my favorite of 2013.......until that dream song came out.

and I don't mess with dude. cuz I don't think he should be singing. but he always has a few undeniable jams out. that song is :whoo:. im just waiting for dude to get his hands on an exceptional talent. with his direction, and their talent, we could see something special.

props on that urban mystic. never heard it before, but it has now entered rotation.
 
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