What will it take to actually get a Heel real heat?

CJ

Your objective semi-troll
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
25,227
Reputation
2,406
Daps
60,847
Reppin
6ix
Roman man. Whether the boos are a blend of dislike within kayfabe, shoot because of booking or just straight x-pac heat, the shyt is molten. I do not think it will suddenly turn to cheers like people are thinking (it will only be those who enjoy being contrarians for the hell of being contrarians)

It's just different with this guy. He needs to spear anyone liked, heel or face, and just go 100 with it. It's all there now for the killing.
 

dh86

Superstar
Joined
Jun 4, 2013
Messages
24,374
Reputation
964
Daps
54,918
Reppin
Detroit
The marks are at fault for that. Messing the game up.:hhh:

They're idea of a face is either an underdog short stack like Daniel Bryan or a heel.

A Face is supposed to get cheered

A heel is supposed to get booed

That's why the whole idea of turning roman heel is hilariously stupid.

You want him to go heel so you can cheer him. What type of backward ass logic is that.:mjlol:

99% of wwe stories are good guy/bad guy stories. Turning a guy heel that gets booed is sheer common sense. Roman can't talk so I'm not sure as him turning heel will get cheers. Dean Ambrose, I can see. Heel Cena I can see. Roman promos? Naw
 

jadillac

Veteran
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
56,310
Reputation
9,218
Daps
173,845
Roman man. Whether the boos are a blend of dislike within kayfabe, shoot because of booking or just straight x-pac heat, the shyt is molten. I do not think it will suddenly turn to cheers like people are thinking (it will only be those who enjoy being contrarians for the hell of being contrarians)

It's just different with this guy. He needs to spear anyone liked, heel or face, and just go 100 with it. It's all there now for the killing.

Thing with Roman is, he's the SAME guy he's been all along. He was the intense member of the Shield. He's the same character now, he doesnt lean towards either heel/face.

But the giant push really messed him up. People wanted Daniel Bryan and Vince gave them Roman.
 
Joined
Mar 23, 2015
Messages
1,146
Reputation
161
Daps
3,869
They're kindasorta doing the exact opposite with Mustafa Ali's face push on 205... had him debut a little bit heelish and had him switch up on that "I assumed you'd hate me because brown and muslim, but you're so WELCOMING! I LOVE AMERICA!"

:pachaha: "thank you for not being racist and prejudice, i guess i'll be a good guy then" :yeshrug:

it'd be pretty funny if faces/heels negotiate with the crowd in regards to their alignment
 

CJ

Your objective semi-troll
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
25,227
Reputation
2,406
Daps
60,847
Reppin
6ix
Thing with Roman is, he's the SAME guy he's been all along. He was the intense member of the Shield. He's the same character now, he doesnt lean towards either heel/face.

But the giant push really messed him up. People wanted Daniel Bryan and Vince gave them Roman.
I know, that's what I'm saying. There are several reasons for him to be booed no matter what they book him to be. Just have to run with it, and build the stories around these reactions. Would make things more compelling, instead of all these stop/re-starts.
 
Joined
Aug 14, 2015
Messages
18,758
Reputation
1,071
Daps
49,930
99% of wwe stories are good guy/bad guy stories. Turning a guy heel that gets booed is sheer common sense. Roman can't talk so I'm not sure as him turning heel will get cheers. Dean Ambrose, I can see. Heel Cena I can see. Roman promos? Naw

No it's not.:mjlol:

Heels are supposed to get booed. That's their job.

It makes no sense to turn reigns heel so another group(the marks) can cheer for him while the women & kids boo him.

All you're doing is flipping the roles, but you'll still get the same response. The same would apply for cena:yeshrug:

Another thing reigns don't really need a mic he already has a Goldberg/lesnar type of presence.
 

mrken12

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
80,804
Reputation
20,910
Daps
300,354
Reppin
Maryland
They butchered it because of UPN stepping in and wanting to kill it off. That's what I was saying about the corporate aspect of wrestling won't warrant a true, scumbag heel.

UPN only wanted to end the character because WWE made a stupid creative move at the worst time that contradicted Hassan's character.
 
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
72,050
Reputation
12,173
Daps
253,493
Reppin
206 & 734
No it's not.:mjlol:

Heels are supposed to get booed. That's their job.

It makes no sense to turn reigns heel so another group(the marks) can cheer for him while the women & kids boo him.

All you're doing is flipping the roles, but you'll still get the same response. The same would apply for cena:yeshrug:

Another thing reigns don't really need a mic he already has a Goldberg/lesnar type of presence.
And I again challenge people to tell me how he is a face in the first place. Look at the rusev feud...How was he a baybyface?
 

Beautiful Bobby Eatin

SWEEEEEEEEEETNESS!
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
15,309
Reputation
2,982
Daps
43,686
Reppin
Terra Belle, Georgia
Roman reigns gets legit heel heat.
No... He gets go away heat. Its the same as Stephanie. It isnt what he does that makes fans angry, its what he DOESN'T do for them. He is also the first wrestler to get a legit "go away" chant. There is a stark difference between Vince McMahon heel heat and Roman's heat.
 

dh86

Superstar
Joined
Jun 4, 2013
Messages
24,374
Reputation
964
Daps
54,918
Reppin
Detroit
And I again challenge people to tell me how he is a face in the first place. Look at the rusev feud...How was he a baybyface?

Taker-Reigns was not a good guy bad guy story. Roman feud with Braun is your basic big bully sneak attacking Roman and costing him the title at the rumble.
 
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
72,050
Reputation
12,173
Daps
253,493
Reppin
206 & 734
No... He gets go away heat. Its the same as Stephanie. It isnt what he does that makes fans angry, its what he DOESN'T do for them. He is also the first wrestler to get a legit "go away" chant. There is a stark difference between Vince McMahon heel heat and Roman's heat.
Breh there is No such thing as a LOUD go away heat. Go away heat is was glacier, jj, Rob Conway, etc got.

People HATE Roman Reigns. Tell me truthfully, if you had Roman reigns vs

  • Aiden English
  • Curt Hawkins
  • Enzo
  • The drifter
What happens? They get over as a face. As a motherfukker. He is a heel. You gotta stop thinking heeels are always on some snidley whiplash shyt.
 
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
72,050
Reputation
12,173
Daps
253,493
Reppin
206 & 734
Taker-Reigns was not a good guy bad guy story. Roman feud with Braun is your basic big bully sneak attacking Roman and costing him the title at the rumble.
Reigns wasn't a bad guy for KILLING undertaker for all intents and purposes? Hitting him with a chair, deading him, and bragging about it the next day?

It's one of the more heinous things we've seen low key
 
Top