What will Melo do?

[ReggieFlare]

MELO DOES NOT HAVE TIME FOR BULLshyt EXPERIMENTS. You nikkas are living in dream worlds. Melo isn't 24 or 25. The Suns as well as the bulls would be a bullshyt experiment at this point in his career. You nikkas need to smarten up.

Yep. Melo isn't getting any younger and if he wants to win anytime in his prime he needs to go to a team with a solid foundation immediately. The question is, does he want to win or is he just good with chilling/the money?

That being said I think the Bulls is far from the worst choice...if Rose can come back and still be productive they could probably compete within the next year or two.

EDIT: On second thought...nah. The Bulls is a pretty risky experiment and it will blow up in his face heavily if the gamble on Rose doesn't pay off.

 

[daboywonder2002]

Melo is headed into his 11th season without a ring. Melo is going to the team with the best foundation to win a championship. Unfortunately for a lot of ppl that place is Miami.

Going to the Bulls isn't really improving his situation.
Going to the Suns isn't improving his situation.
Going to the fukking 76ers is guaranteeing he suffers more years without a title.
Staying with the Knicks ensures that he loses to Miami for years to come.

He wants a championsip and Miami is the defending 2x champions. Their resume' is impressive. It's pretty much a done deal unless Melo DOESN'T want to win.

i dont think melo would wanna ride lebron's coattails to a ship. no matter what melo does, that's lebron's team now. maybe wade was willing to put his pride and ego aside realizing that bron is the best player. i cant see melo doing the same.

 

[intruder]

Melo is coming to South Beach, get mad

i Just don't see it happening. He doesn't fit. I know he's the type of talent you make room for no matter what but it would be overkill. Not to mention how much the tea would be hated even more

 

[Victim of Racism]

I won't avoid it

Look at the standings.

Even with no rose no deng they are 3rd in the east. It's not coincidence melo pointed out the bulls having a put in anybody and it wins system. That observation shows melo realizes regardless if rose in or not he wins. Melo realizes the sell on Chicago is thibs and that defense. Not necessarily rose.

With melo there rose would not have to carry that much of a burden which means he gets to get his d wade on coast for the season then turn it on in the playoffs while melo carries the load and challenges for a few MVP trophies

The biggest answer however is what other option does he have? Wouldn't he rather at worst always be top 2 in the east then take the risk with the Knicks and possibly waste the rest of his career?

He has the option of staying with a Phil led NY franchise, take less, and have even more cap space after this coming season either way. Last season, we saw what happened with decent coaching and healthy productive players. Dolan used Woodson to help out Miami's 3-peat chance this season and now they will most likely fire him and make other improvements.

 

[ReggieFlare]

i dont think melo would wanna ride lebron's coattails to a ship. no matter what melo does, that's lebron's team now. maybe wade was willing to put his pride and ego aside realizing that bron is the best player. i cant see melo doing the same.

What makes you think Melo gives a fukk

This is the same dude who said it was smart for them to team up like that

 

[BStapies]

If Miami lose, wouldnt bosh just opt out, leave and melo come?

Can that happen?

 

[Wargames]

If Melo wants to come to Chicago, you don't think they'll amnesty Boozer and trade Taj to do so?



Are you SERIOUS?

Yeah because reinsdorf is fukking cheap. He's not gonna pay Boozer to play for somebody else and Taj while nice contract is too big a contract for somebody to just trade cap space back. The only way Melo goes to the bulls is through a sign and trade where Boozer and Taj coming back to the Knicks along with young players and picks. Melo gets his money and the Knicks get assets (they would likely move some bits for other assets) for Phil to go after the players he wants.

On the flip Melo might stay, the Knicks brought in Phil Jackson for him to pitch NY's future and the triangle to Melo. That is at the very least an intriguing reason to stay.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

He has the option of staying with a Phil led NY franchise, take less, and have even more cap space after this coming season either way. Last season, we saw what happened with decent coaching and healthy productive players. Dolan used Woodson to help out Miami's 3-peat chance this season and now they will most likely fire him and make other improvements.

I'm not writing it in stone that melo leaves. Him staying is def a possibility.

But acting like its ridiculous for melo to come to Chicago is crazy. There are a ton of reasons for him to come to Chicago

Let's start with thibs and melo having the same company represent them and been trying to get those 2 together which is where those bs thibs to ny rumors started from.

You have a defense that covers all melo weaknesses . Jimmy butler guards the lebron's and Durant's leaving melo free. If melo gets beat he got Noah and taj to cover him. Plus building a supporting cast is easy considering thibs gets the best out of bums.

and it's not a forgone conclusion that we have to trade taj. If melo is true to his word to take a paycut the bulls can amnesty boozer let Kirk walk trade our picks trade dunleavy and let our tpe's expire. This would allow us to keep taj and sign melo at around 16-18 mill depending on what the cap raises to. Add on the difference in state tax and 17 mill is just like making 20 mill in ny considering they state tax is 3x what il is. Side note it's also why Houston would be a threat because with no state tax 16 mill is just the same as 20 mill in ny. Melo would lose a couple mill but not much more than that. Plus melo would be getting a raise every season by time it's year 3/4 making 20 mill anyway

Plus for melo to make all his money all he would have to do is have a 3rd yr opt out something melo and the bulls would be cool with. Melo would do it to opt out in year 3 then cash out for another 3 years. Bulls would be cool cause they know if they contenders it's worth it and if it's not working out they have a way from under his deal.

Chicago just makes too much sense. Of course melo not wanting to up root his fam to another city is def a reason he could stay so again I know him staying in ny is possible. Just the sales pitch a little harder for ny especially when you miss the offs in this weak ass east. How do you convince melo things will be better when that just happened? Then you have to find guys to help melo and a coach. Whereas in Chicago the team already in place.

 

[K-Deini]

he re-signs with ny with an opt out after season 3. if he doesnt like the direction by then, he leaves and signs with a contender. would be 33 and doesnt rely on athleticism, so he will still be a top scorer in the league.

 

[PIFF101]

50/50 on Melo leaving. Alot more money on the table if he stays in NY and also trusting Phil to right the ship so it comes down to him wanting to win now with a better supporting cast so he doesn't have to carry the load all the time. Trust, I want him to stay but if he goes fukk it and move on.

 

[Wargames]

I'm not writing it in stone that melo leaves. Him staying is def a possibility.

But acting like its ridiculous for melo to come to Chicago is crazy. There are a ton of reasons for him to come to Chicago

Let's start with thibs and melo having the same company represent them and been trying to get those 2 together which is where those bs thibs to ny rumors started from.

You have a defense that covers all melo weaknesses . Jimmy butler guards the lebron's and Durant's leaving melo free. If melo gets beat he got Noah and taj to cover him. Plus building a supporting cast is easy considering thibs gets the best out of bums.

and it's not a forgone conclusion that we have to trade taj. If melo is true to his word to take a paycut the bulls can amnesty boozer let Kirk walk trade our picks trade dunleavy and let our tpe's expire. This would allow us to keep taj and sign melo at around 16-18 mill depending on what the cap raises to. Add on the difference in state tax and 17 mill is just like making 20 mill in ny considering they state tax is 3x what il is. Side note it's also why Houston would be a threat because with no state tax 16 mill is just the same as 20 mill in ny. Melo would lose a couple mill but not much more than that. Plus melo would be getting a raise every season by time it's year 3/4 making 20 mill anyway

Plus for melo to make all his money all he would have to do is have a 3rd yr opt out something melo and the bulls would be cool with. Melo would do it to opt out in year 3 then cash out for another 3 years. Bulls would be cool cause they know if they contenders it's worth it and if it's not working out they have a way from under his deal.

Chicago just makes too much sense. Of course melo not wanting to up root his fam to another city is def a reason he could stay so again I know him staying in ny is possible. Just the sales pitch a little harder for ny especially when you miss the offs in this weak ass east. How do you convince melo things will be better when that just happened? Then you have to find guys to help melo and a coach. Whereas in Chicago the team already in place.

your too optimistic. the way the CBA works no contract can go beyond a 150% increase from the base salary meaning 2 things

1) if Melo took the 16 million hit and got injured he would lose a lot of guaranteed money because he would not want to opt out

2) Melo is willing to forego a guaranteed 5 year player option to begin with.

that means lets say Melo doesn't want the kobe max but the regular max of about 20 a year.

If Melo is injured and forced to maintain his 16 start salary for 4 years (and likely won't get a max contract after that) he could potentially lose about $30 Million at the end of his career...... If he does go for the Kobe max solution your looking at about 35-40. No way does he do that to play with Taj Gibson and whatever other assets would likely be in a Knicks trade. That money gives the knicks major influence over him and even if they agree to part ways the only way he goes to the bull is in a trade. Taj, Boozer, youth and picks. The major difference being the bulls have enough picks now that at worse they would be out of 2 year drafts and would likely only cost them this years draft (and the bobcat pick) whereas Melo cost the knicks about 3 and took everyone.

Add to that reinsdorf being way to cheap to pay Boozer 16 million to play for someone else

 

[cornercommission2k12]

your too optimistic. the way the CBA works no contract can go beyond a 150% increase from the base salary meaning 2 things

1) if Melo took the 16 million hit and got injured he would lose a lot of guaranteed money because he would not want to opt out

2) Melo is willing to forego a guaranteed 5 year player option to begin with.

that means lets say Melo doesn't want the kobe max but the regular max of about 20 a year.

If Melo is injured and forced to maintain his 16 start salary for 4 years (and likely won't get a max contract after that) he could potentially lose about $30 Million at the end of his career...... If he does go for the Kobe max solution your looking at about 35-40. No way does he do that to play with Taj Gibson and whatever other assets would likely be in a Knicks trade. That money gives the knicks major influence over him and even if they agree to part ways the only way he goes to the bull is in a trade. Taj, Boozer, youth and picks. The major difference being the bulls have enough picks now that at worse they would be out of 2 year drafts and would likely only cost them this years draft (and the bobcat pick) whereas Melo cost the knicks about 3 and took everyone.

Add to that reinsdorf being way to cheap to pay Boozer 16 million to play for someone else

BooZer has already been informed if we getting melo he gone.

2. Because the bulls can clear that kind of space melo holds a ton of leverage. Which means take the package we have for you or kick rocks ny and lose melo for nothing. Ny has no picks a couple of picks in a deep draft plus a kings pick next season and the Cleveland opt to swap ain't too shabby and it's better than nothing. A 3 team deal is very possible. Acting like ny has all the cards is naive cause they don't. And melo not making the same mistake twice of joining a gutted team nor will the bulls gut the team. At worst the bulls trade taj for a great asset bring over the euro and have the max to sign him anyway. Trading taj is no struggle. Plus that way we would still have 2 picks this year and a MLE to use to get another taj and other pieces. So more leverage is on the bulls/ melo side.

 

[TheNig]

Smart Move

• Take less and sign with Chicago
• Take less and sign with Miami

Dumb Move

• Take max and stay with Knicks= Lots of money in #1 Media market = Lala is happy.
• Take max and sign with Lakers= Lots of money in #2 Media market= Lala is happy to be in Hollywood.

Sadly, the dumb basketball moves are the best financial moves and less nagging from the woman. Then again i can't blame him for going after money. This will be his last big contract.

Unless they all opt out, that can't happen.

 

[Wargames]

BooZer has already been informed if we getting melo he gone.

2. Because the bulls can clear that kind of space melo holds a ton of leverage. Which means take the package we have for you or kick rocks ny and lose melo for nothing. Ny has no picks a couple of picks in a deep draft plus a kings pick next season and the Cleveland opt to swap ain't too shabby and it's better than nothing. A 3 team deal is very possible. Acting like ny has all the cards is naive cause they don't. And melo not making the same mistake twice of joining a gutted team nor will the bulls gut the team. At worst the bulls trade taj for a great asset bring over the euro and have the max to sign him anyway. Trading taj is no struggle. Plus that way we would still have 2 picks this year and a MLE to use to get another taj and other pieces. So more leverage is on the bulls/ melo side.

I never said NY had all the cards, but they have that contract extension just like the Nuggets did when they traded Melo for a bunch of picks and players. Just like CP3 wouldn't just walk because he could lose $30 million you think Melo won't end up agreeing to be traded for the same thing? This is what the owners fought for in the CBA to make sure it was really tough financially for guys to just walk. Howard took that L but Howard tried to go with the money first. The Lakers just imploded to the point he said fukk it.

Also that trade doesn't gut your team. You would have Noah, Rose, Melo, and some combination of Snell, Mirotec, and/or Butler and the MLE plus the allure to teams to come play with a core of Noah, Melo, and rose. Also like you said you guys have picks you can offer 3 1st round picks and only miss out on this years draft (then again i would prefer the knicks take the bulls 2016 pick and leaving them the kings picks because i don't know if they make it out of the lottery between now and 2017).

Heres the thing too if your going to lose Boozer and Taj regardless. Is Butler, 2 draft picks in 1 draft (at worse 3 in 2) and maybe Mirotec going to stop the bulls FO from getting Carmelo anthony? On the flip for the knicks if they got to rebuild 100% thats not a bad haul because they Boozer is another 2015 expiring to try to trade (or just let walk) and Taj could be moved for possibly another 1st rounder if they feel like it.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Unless Wade and Riley have a handshake agreement for future considerations, he can't go to Miami. Wade would be a fool to opt out. Same for Bosh. If I'm wrong, then explain why.

Melo will take the discount, because he knows Miami is his only shot at winning within 2-3 years. Love will go to LA, it's likely that Aldridge stays in Portland, so no second options for NY. Bosh is going to take a discount, since he loves it here and doesn't want to be the man again.