Whatever happened to recruiting athletes from the hood?

[Paper Boi]

American Meritocracy Is Killing Youth Sports

 

[Professor Emeritus]

WHO IS THE LAST NBA SUPERSTAR
WHO WENT TO A PUBLIC INNER CITY HIGHSCHOOL?

D ROSE?

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Draymond



Before D-Rose I think the last one was Pierce at Inglewood High.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Prep schools are taking kids out the hood and taking care of them..

this

 

[dtownreppin214]

There’s no way u think DJ Wagner is from the hood. He might play in the hood but there’s a video of slam day in the life and he lives in a nice house in the burbs

I gotta watch it again. i thought he still lived in Camden. Then why does his son go to Camden high and not private or prep?

54:05 they discuss Wagner. D Miles said he was in the projects w/ him and he got crazy love.

 

[CantStop]

54:05 they discuss Wagner. D Miles said he was in the projects w/ him and he got crazy love.

I don’t doubt dejuan Wagner lived in the hood, I’m saying his son doesn’t

 

[RichYung]

Unless a kid gets a growth spurt late.... didn’t play a lot of Pop Warner/youth league ball they get poached early.... only exception is sometimes a kid that’s an athlete from the hood can go to a camp and shine against the other talent... and they’ll see him late... Kid from Upstate NY (Rochester).... going to Oregon... Seven McGee.. went to a camp as a sophomore and left the game with Power 5’s on his heels... he goes to a City school. Just slipped through the cracks.. he’ll probably be a day 1 contributor next season. There’s always a Few kids like that.

 

[L&HH]

Athletes don't even go to hood schools like that no more. Nowadays you got schools from the suburbs taking the talent out of the hoods/ghettos and bringing them to their schools. I know it happens a lot in Texas

They DO pull kids out of the hood


They just do it at 7, 8, 9, 10 instead of 17.

My cousin's husband is a youth coach and regularly has kids staying with him who don't have stable situations.

The days of your high school around the corner producing a highly recruited college star are over.

Prep schools crushed the buildings

A lot of you guys are mentioning kids being taken out of the hoods and put into prep schools young and that's definitely true. But what I think also is going on is a lot of these top prospects straight up aren't hood kids at all. They're the kids of middle class and up former athletes. These people have the genetics, know how and means to provide top notch training, couching, and marketing to get their kids to the next level.

It seems like every recruiting cycle there's a child whose mother was a former ball player or father was a former ball player or father was a Lavar Ball type (with less notoriety).

RJ Barrett's mother was a former pro ball player. Andrew Wiggins folks were in the NBA and Olympics, Ja Morant's pops was a high school teammate of Ray Allen and played semi-pro, Marvin Bagley pops played in the AFL, Cole Anthony is Greg Anthony's son, Ball brothers, Ben Simmons father the NBL

I haven't been paying attention but I really don't know who the last Lebron single mother with no father around get out the mud type. I'm sure there is some but on draft night it seems like most these dudes have both parents in their lives and seems to come from stable homes.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Sports are being gentrified. Coaches won’t even recruit certain zip codes now based off reputation.

 

[L&HH]

Hey It's still some talent in the hood that get overlooked

No it's not. First of all in 2021 pure talent ain't getting you anywhere. There's a shyt ton of talent. You better have some kind of work ethic and skills. And if a "talent" is stuck in the hood then it's likely because he ain't got the work ethic or skills.

Unless by "talent" you mean a 6'7+ nikka with crazy athleticism and even that type of nikka ain't getting overlooked in the hood because some coach/scout/father figure would have scooped him up and been training him early.

 

[L&HH]

A lot of you guys are mentioning kids being taken out of the hoods and put into prep schools young and that's definitely true. But what I think also is going on is a lot of these top prospects straight up aren't hood kids at all. They're the kids of middle class and up former athletes. These people have the genetics, know how and means to provide top notch training, couching, and marketing to get their kids to the next level.

It seems like every recruiting cycle there's a child whose mother was a former ball player or father was a former ball player or father was a Lavar Ball type (with less notoriety).

RJ Barrett's mother was a former pro ball player. Andrew Wiggins folks were in the NBA and Olympics, Ja Morant's pops was a high school teammate of Ray Allen and played semi-pro, Marvin Bagley pops played in the AFL, Cole Anthony is Greg Anthony's son, Ball brothers, Ben Simmons father the NBL

I haven't been paying attention but I really don't know who the last Lebron single mother with no father around get out the mud type. I'm sure there is some but on draft night it seems like most these dudes have both parents in their lives and seems to come from stable homes.

Damn @Paper Boi your post is what I was getting at without even reading it. It's something I noticed years ago being in the DMV area. after Kevin Durant a lot of our top prospects weren't from the hood at all really. Then I started paying attention to who the top recruits were and I started noticing a trend just compare the backgrounds and upbringing of LeBron James, Sebastian Telfair, Darius Miles, Tracy McGrady, Lamar Odom, etc to the guys coming out now. I remember growing up every year damn near every top recruit had a hardship story but all these recent dudes seem like silver spoon kids in comparison (not saying it's a bad thing).

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

A lot of you guys are mentioning kids being taken out of the hoods and put into prep schools young and that's definitely true. But what I think also is going on is a lot of these top prospects straight up aren't hood kids at all. They're the kids of middle class and up former athletes. These people have the genetics, know how and means to provide top notch training, couching, and marketing to get their kids to the next level.

It seems like every recruiting cycle there's a child whose mother was a former ball player or father was a former ball player or father was a Lavar Ball type (with less notoriety).

RJ Barrett's mother was a former pro ball player. Andrew Wiggins folks were in the NBA and Olympics, Ja Morant's pops was a high school teammate of Ray Allen and played semi-pro, Marvin Bagley pops played in the AFL, Cole Anthony is Greg Anthony's son, Ball brothers, Ben Simmons father the NBL

I haven't been paying attention but I really don't know who the last Lebron single mother with no father around get out the mud type. I'm sure there is some but on draft night it seems like most these dudes have both parents in their lives and seems to come from stable homes.

Julius Randle's mother Carolyn played for the University of Texas.

Obi Toppin's father played in the And1 league.

Immanuel Quickley's mom Nitrease played for Morgan State and is now a school principal in Maryland.

 

[concise]

So, is this about being born in the hood or just graduating from a school in the hood? Just because you went to a prep school, that doesn't change where you're from.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

The gentrification of college hoops

Here’s an article from The Undefeated discussing this very subject

Fewer than 1 in 5 students playing Division 1 hoops, and 1 in 7 in all Division 1 sports, come from families in which neither parent went to college. And their numbers are declining.

Educators call such students “first gens,” or members of the first generation of their family to attend college. It is a closely tracked figure because it’s a key measure of socioeconomic opportunity. First gens are typically from poor and working-class families that have difficulty paying for college without scholarships. For first gen athletes who don’t go onto the pros — the vast majority – an athletic scholarship is their ticket not just to a degree, but also for entry into the middle class.

In fact, the first-generation athlete percentage in Division I, the highest level, is lower than it is for Division III, which nominally does not award athletic scholarships. How to explain the decline in big-time, first-generation athletes? Farrey explains:

1. Rising academic standards at the NCAA and its member colleges.
2. The increasing importance and cost of early training to being recruited for Division 1 sports.
3. A growing black middle class that can afford the early training and educational advantages that open the door to college sports opportunities

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

For some it’s a blessing

A nikka like Josh Jackson HAD to get out of Detroit . He made it to the league and still almost fukked it off

 

[Pirius Black]

Brandon Ingram did all four years of high school at Kinston High.