What's the coli's opinions on Gun laws

[Suleiman Bey]

50 people were killed and 52 were injured by one man.
The entire massacre could potentially have been stopped sooner by one person with a gun.

Possibly but it could be just as easily 200 dead if others had weapons...

and who is to say the ones with the guns wouldn't have been amongst the first to get chopped down?

 

[Mowgli]

Says who?

If "right to bear arms" means you can own any weapon you want with no limits then you might as well say you have the right to buy a nuke.

If you think the right to bear arms means only owning a pistol, youre out your rabid ass mind. If youre going to let a few maniacs PUNK you out of your right to own a rifle, youre out your rabid ass mind.

You sound scared to defend yourself and would rather everyone be at the mercy of external forces. and hope they have our best interests in mind. I rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

Its your right excercise it. Why would you want to be defenseless?

Ban guns though.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

You said a bunch of nothing. People drive cars without license all the time. You know nothing about driving until u have access to a car, you know nothing about guns until you have access to a gun. And in both cases bad things can happen. Kids steal cars, people steal guns.

The absolute ignorance in your comment is both impressive and sad.
Are you seriously going to state that you knew absolutely nothing about a car before getting into the driver's seat?

No one ever told you about the importance of seat belts, adjusting your mirrors, how to properly use your signals, the meaning of traffic signs, speed limits in different areas, basic routine maintenance on the car, etc. ?
Did you not have to report to a DMV location and provide knowledge via a state provided test either written, practical, or both? Are you not required to have an active insurance policy if you own a motor vehicle?
Are you seriously implying that people can go from never having seen a car in person or being a passenger to being handed keys and driving one?

I refuse to believe that you own a gun or have even fired a gun if you believe that "you know nothing about guns until you have access to a gun".
There are courses available at almost every gun range in every state that do a great job at orientating people who have never held or even seen a gun in person before allowing them to fire it.
The point of my post is that these courses are not even legally required to purchase a gun and they should be.

Your last comment (along with your entire post) "in both cases bad things can happen. Kids steal cars, people steal guns" doesn't even deserve a response, but we've gone this far so why not?
The fact that unqualified individuals have illegally obtained guns or cars is not an excuse to completely ignore the necessity for proper training.

You sir, are the one that "said a bunch of nothing" and should educate yourself before responding about a serious topic such as gun rights.

 

[Mowgli]

Possibly but it could be just as easily 200 dead if others had weapons...

and who is to say the ones with the guns wouldn't have been amongst the first to get chopped down?

WOOOOWW.

I see it now. Yall are scared to defend your lives.

Whos to say those armed people wouldnt have eliminated the threat, ASAP?

Logic says, more armed people vs 1 armed man = less defenseless people for maniac to shoot at.

Maniac steps in venue, opens fire.

While everyone is breaking for cover, those who are ready to fight are taking on the threat. Meaning the killer doesnt get to walk around and shoot defenseless people.

Christ man the fukk up.




In your world

Government bans all guns
Maniac gets a hold of a gun anyway
Walks in venue and unloads
Everyone runs for cover and calls 911 while getting shot
Police show up 10-30 minutes later and neutralize the threat.
We have a moment of rememberence for the victims

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

Possibly but it could be just as easily 200 dead if others had weapons...

and who is to say the ones with the guns wouldn't have been amongst the first to get chopped down?

We get it.
You're afraid of guns and you're cool with crying on the ground in a pool of your own urine while you either wait for the police to arrive or pray someone else here has a gun to stop the shooter.
I refuse to be a victim and will always carry a gun to protect myself, and more importantly, my family.

 

[acri1]

If you think the right to bear arms means only owning a pistol, youre out your rabid ass mind. If youre going to let a few maniacs PUNK you out of your right to own a rifle, youre out your rabid ass mind.

You sound scared to defend yourself and would rather everyone be at the mercy of external forces. and hope they have our best interests in mind. I rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

Its your right excercise it. Why would you want to be defenseless?

Ban guns though.

I never said I was for banning guns, just automatic weapons. But excuse me for not being a puzzy and feeling scared to walk out the house unless I'm strapped like Rambo...kinda surprised that a brazilian jujitsu master feels so reliant on straps to defend himself tho.

But you didn't answer the question. Where does right to bear arms stop? Do I have a right to buy machine guns? WMDs? Biological weapons? Chemical weapons?

 

[Chrishaune]

You're not taking guns away from these people and the government knows that. Illegally or legally, people will find a way to get the guns they want.

 

[Mowgli]

I never said I was for banning guns, just automatic weapons. But excuse me for not being a puzzy and feeling scared to walk out the house unless I'm strapped like Rambo...kinda surprised that a brazilian jujitsu master feels so reliant on straps to defend himself tho.

But you didn't answer the question. Where does right to bear arms stop? Do I have a right to buy machine guns? WMDs? Biological weapons? Chemical weapons?

Are you sure thats what youre saying because this crime was perpetrated with a semi automatic weapon

Automatic weapons are banned in the united states.

Do you know what youre saying here. This guy pulled the trigger every time he shot the gun. He did not hold the trigger and spray.


The right to bear arms stops somewhere after machine gun but ill settle for semi automatic.

The limit has not been defined so as far as that goes we have a difference of opinion

You think it should start and stop at pistol, which to me, is an error in judgement.

Why start and stop there. Buh because a crazy cac might shoot the place up. Thats cowardice speaking. Go after the group taking responsiblity and uproot them from the Earth.

How is banning an AR going to stop a extremist organization from putting a gun in the hands of a maniac. Just say you scared bruh.

 

[Shadow King]

I'm all for gun rights. I'm personally own 3. But there's no need for assault rifles. If you need an AK for self defense it's time to reevaluate your pritoritites

This

 

[UpAndComing]

Government wants us to ban guns, so they can shoot at us unarmed

 

[Ronnie Lott]

....take these guns out the public hands....it'll be much easier to herd the lemmings into those FEMA camps...

 

[Spence]

Here in Texas EVERYONE stays strapped even my parents. I think every citizen in Chicago should be required to carry a gun with how often it pops off up there.

 

[beenz]

I am not into assault rifles personally. They serve no purpose for me who just wants to carry a personal protection weapon without people knowing I'm doing so.

 

[Lost His Smile]

Nothing wrong with owning a handgun or a rifle (for hunting), but no one really needs an AR or M16.

The ones that feel the need to, buy six to twelve months worth of non perishables for when a voice in their brain tells them the government has a spot for their family in a FEMA camp.

 

[beenz]

I dont not believe guns should be banned.
It takes the means away for honest people to defend themselves. Criminals will still have guns and police can't be everywhere at once.
As a gun owner I'll say that it's too easy to get a gun though.
In my state, VA, if you want a concealed carry permit all you have to do is take an online class that consists of a 15 - 20 minute video and a multiple choice test of about 15 questions.
You pay for the permit, submit it to the courthouse, they do a background check and a month or two later they mail you your permit.
Buying a gun is easier. Walk up to your local pawn shop or gun show, show them your license, they do a background check, you pay them and walk out.
At no point is it required for you to ever have even SEEN a gun in person, not to mention safely carry and discharge one.
I think guns should be treated like cars. You should have to prove you can handle one safely and take state certified training before being able to buy or carry one and you should have to prove you proficiency every couple of years.

Getting a concealed weapons permit is much harder here. U gotta take a 16 hour course over two days plus do range time. The course cost like $250. Plus it cost another $150 for the actual permit. On top of that, there are no ranges in Chicago, so u gotta go in the burbs. Thus, there's lots of barriers to getting that permit that most people won't do.