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When did conscious rap become "uncool"?
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PhonZhi
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Keep supporting the prison complex where they program black folk in degenerative behavior.
All that gangsta shyt were promoted by the same people who own the prisons.
But no one likes getting schooled on black history, so I let yall cook on the poison.
@PhonZhi @timothy_strickland
I think it's been noted some in here, but there's been a conscious rap revival in the past few years. K. Dot & J. Cole are leading the way and blossoming after being marginalized by people, like Drake, who just want rappers to stick to the Biggie/LL Cool J template and keep it moving.
And we've entered a more socially conscious era in America(Black Lives Matter), which is leading to more socially conscious rap music hitting the mainstream.
The reason The Message is the most important rap song of all time is because it shifted the focus of rap content to reality & struggle. Before The Message, rap was an extension of Disco/dance music with party raps & bragging over it. After The Message, rap became about the streets & real life.
And we've entered a more socially conscious era in America(Black Lives Matter), which is leading to more socially conscious rap music hitting the mainstream.
Hip Hop started with a house party in The Bronx..."Broken glass everywhere, people pissin on the stairs, you know they just don't care" - the message By Grand Master Flash(the beginning)
You are wrong Hip Hop started with a message...little Jewish boys from New York didn't have any message to give...so they just talked about partying. THEY WERE NEVER ALL THE WAY COOL...
The reason The Message is the most important rap song of all time is because it shifted the focus of rap content to reality & struggle. Before The Message, rap was an extension of Disco/dance music with party raps & bragging over it. After The Message, rap became about the streets & real life.
Really fam
...that joint came out in 83...hip hop wasnt thought of in 73...it was planted after the NY blackout of 77', grown through 78' and populated as a flower for all to see in 79' with the live performance of "it's the joint" on t.v., it's been around in public entertainment ever since. The message came out just three years later. Many consider the message to be the FIRST use of real lyricism in hip hop...how can u not consider it the beginning
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
Same here. They keep tossing around "concious rappers" as if they're one big monolith. Last time I checked jeru, common, black thought, PE, mos def, talib, organized konfusion, dead prez, de la, etc sound nothing like each other.
Nah some of the guys replying mentioning PE and NWA are really showing their age. Like times have changed, there isn't just four rappers out. Rappers nowadays aren't one note dudes. They have party records, conscious records and just rappity rap records. Freddie Gibbs is gangsta and conscious but some fans only choose to pick certain records to play.
Really fam
more like '81 if im not mistaken.
how you gonna say hip-hop wasnt thought of in '73? lol.
Ghpstface
Kanye West fan
that gangsta shyt makes a gang of snaps
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
Exactly...which is why I consider it the beginning. I mean "a hip hop a hippy a hippy to da hip hop hoppa ya don't stop to rock a to da bang bang"...u know the rest and while being the MUSICAL beginning to me it isn't the beginning of the MC...that to me belongs to flash and the furious five and maybe kurtis blow...I know the sound first jumped in the BX circa 77(blackout time frame) but the MCing and hip hop to me began with them.
Check this its a good watch, if u haven't seen it already(I think it MAY go into it a little)
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you cant just come out the blue 40 years later trying to rewrite history and talk about what YOU consider the beginning.
and regardless, thats still a long ass gap between that and the message. with the message being a song that the furious five didnt even want to do.
PhonZhi
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Yep, music about blacks being killed by other blacks and promoting an overall destructive lifestyle to the black community will be shunned more and more as we unite and become increasingly aware that this music is being used against us. Kendrick and Cole are selling because they represent the "average" black man, not the negative stereotypical super thugged and swagged out caricature that the white man wants representing us.