when nikkas gone stop acting like Biggie was innocent?

[Calmye]

I agree but the reasoning for it is on par with what everybody else was thinking. Pac and suge took things too far. Not to say biggie was 100% innocent cause he wasn’t, but I never believed he wanted any harm done to Pac until Pac started pushing his buttons in the media.

You gotta understand pac and Snoop weren't in on the same level for a long time before his death to the point he punched be the nikka in the gut for acting like a bitcj

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Nikka please. That nikka got you shot. Pac was all about this “he gonna do this and gonna do that” jimmy was in LA plenty of times. Why not run up on him? fukking bad boy money up by giving more attention to bad boy cause even after biggie, how many hits did puffy label put out?this is what I mean when I say young and dumb. You want beef go find Jimmy or the nikkas that shot you and kill, stop yapping about biggie, making videos/songs dissing him, trying to start problems with him when you know who shot you you idiot. Jimmy was probably laughing at Pac throughout that whole east vs west cause Pac knew better not to try that shyt to him before he get ass lit up again

You must of never heard against all odds?


"Promised to payback, Jimmy Henchman, in due time"


"You touch me I'm at you
I know you motherfukkers didn't think I forgot
Hell nah, I ain't forgot, nikka
I just remember what you told me
You said don't go to war unless I got my money right
I got my money right, now I want war"


That's directed towards Jimmy. After pac came home from the hospital when he got shot at quad. Jimmy sent him a message saying "Don't go to war unless you got your money right". And all pac did was nod his head.... he wasn't dumb .. he knew he had to play it smart when it came to jimmy

 

[spliz]

Honestly this thread is disgustin on both ends. Noone minus a select few people are on some logical shyt. U got nikkas on the Pac side giving him too much credit for certain shyt and u got nikkas on the Biggie side high fiving eachother completely ignoring the bullshyt he pulled in the beef as well. nikkas cant meet in the middle and say both these dudes were at fault for their own deaths and both made mistakes but nikkas would rather look at these REAL LIFE events like it was a movie.

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Snoop wasn't trying to have keffe d, and Orlando pulling up on him like big flossy

Who is big flossy

 

[DarkmanX]

You gotta understand pac and Snoop weren't in on the same level for a long time before his death to the point he punched be the nikka in the gut for acting like a bitcj

Smh you're gullible as hell

 

[Bigsuk]

Breh how am I supposed to answer that? I don't care what the "industry" thinks about the beef, especially because that same industry you're talking about made money and pushed the beef heavy. Not really sure what you're arguing there.
But like I said, Henchmen was a goon with power, money, and respect. He was much more organised than Suge, to think Pac would go at someone who isn't at his level in such a short period of time is laughable and idiotic. And for argumentative purposes, lets say Pac did go at Henchmen first and not Biggie. If Henchmen got Pac killed or harmed you and other Pac critics would say; "Why would Pac attack Henchmen so soon? He just got out of jail, he should've laid low for a bit" Biggie and Tupac cant win in this situation.

but u still haven’t justified why pac went so hard at biggie as if he was the one who had him set -up ...... no personally I wouldn’t ... I would call him reckless but at least with suge and Piru behind him I would respect him even more cause then whatever Happened to him I least he would be directly going at the nikka who gave him that L that he didn’t want to accept n move on from .... rather then going at nikkas who had nothing to do with him been set -up ... we can go back n forth bro that’s fine we not gona agree that’s fine ....

 

[Flav]

Big waited till Pac died then dissed him. Straight coward shyt.

 

[Benefited]

Big, also on record, literally bragged about his team being "Marine Blue".
Southside Crips are well known for wearing Seattle Mariners hat.

Add to that, OG crip Zip was Big's daughter's godfather and Big's muscle "C" Gutta, who beefed with Jim Jones is a crip.
It's fair to say Big was crip-affiliated heavy to say the least and they put battery on his back to the point where he felt comfortable enough to go to LA and drop the Long Kiss verse.

Pac gets criticized for being gassed up and affiliating himself with Bloods in his mid 20's.
Big did exactly the same, just with a different gang.

Oh, and you can't say Big wasn't an instigator either with the Dogg Pound trailer thing.
It wasn't directly aimed at Pac but my point is that Big wasn't this chill dude who only reacted when got dissed first.

Props on the video

Not that I believe it 100%,but also when I factor in Keefe D saying Faith called Zip to ask if Pacs shooting was their hit going through?Biggie is very suspect. Biggie was I will say rightfully more upset than he pretended to be behind the scenes. I'm not sure how Long Kiss Goodnight didn't expose the mans true character,folks still think he was some jolly guy,his sense of humor lyrically and his obesity plays a major part in that.

 

[Skip b]

Who is big flossy

Lost respect for Snoop like ten times in my life; a grown ass man shouldnt be so bytch out here

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Thats the bullshyt he told yall, And yall decided to believe it

In the real world, that makes no sense

Yes it do. He couldn't go at Jimmy street wise yet so fukking up his money was the next best thing

 

[Skip b]

Yes it do. He couldn't go at Jimmy street wise yet so fukking up his money was the next best thing

Jimmy is local

 

[Dreamzeedream]

I believe Gene Deal wouldve atleast exposed that shyt fam. I dont believe it happened honestly. And fam Tony Yayo smacked the fukk outta Henchman’s son. I dont think nikkas scared of dude like that no more. Him and Haitian Jack can keep going back n forth about who’s the bigger govt informant. Lol

He had Tony yayo car aired out b4 the awards show.gunit was moving carefully through NY when they were beefing with Jimmy. mazaradi fox spoke on it.idk if he was the one had yayo mom house shot up

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Jimmy is local

From the way ppl talk about him. I thought he was one of them nikkaS not to be played with

 

[Skip b]

From the way ppl talk about him. I thought he was one of them nikkaS not to be played with

Maybe in NY, but if We comparing armies Once Pac was on the row if it was War, he could have brought it to whoever......And thats without his ten million stans...I mean yayo slapped that nikka son and is still walking around, nikkas aint scared of him like that

 

[seemorecizzy]

Yes it do. He couldn't go at Jimmy street wise yet so fukking up his money was the next best thing

Bro this isn't wwe lmao
And how did he fukk up henchmen money?
The east west beef if anything brought more attention and more money to both sides if u wanna run with this dumb theory that bad boy was paying him bi-weekly or some shyt lmao

Also, pac had a shyt load of new jersey goons according to the outlaws. As well suge knight and a bunch of bloods. Henchmen was in la all the time, nothing happened. He even ran up on Pac and told him to stop snitching at some club, nothin happened. So stop