Where do you guys think Dame Dash went wrong?

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Not in my opinion. Jay-Z’s 4:44 “awakening” is what Dame was saying 20 years ago damn near. So, he was right in his thinking but probably wrong in delivery and ahead of his time.
Jay still didn't hurt his business relationships though. I agree with his mentality but it was how he executed going about his business dealings which was wrong :manny:

Sure the vultures exist but you got to play chess, not hungry hungry hippos.

The issue is people are judging success for Dame on a different lens than Dame is judging success for himself. If Dame were a top level hip hop executive working for Lyor right now you all would consider him successful. But he would just be another worker so he himself wouldn’t feel successful.
But making poor quality movies and being too prideful is not success either. It's one thing to have total ownership over your company but he could go even further if he wasn't so stubborn. He would tell you he is successful out of ego but he knows deep down he fell off imo or he is just too ignorant to see it.
 

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this is the real start of his ending.

had this not been caught on camera he probably would've got away with it but since this got national distribution and made kevin liles and def jam look like some bish ass suckers and snakes...it has been rumoured this is what got lyor cohen to put the wheels in motion to get dame up out of there.

perception is everything to them niccas
 

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He was an a$$hole piece of shyt who treated people terribly. Only so long before Karma catches up to you :manny:
 

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I honestly don’t think he ever went wrong. I don’t agree with many of the things he did, but as far as arrogance and such. He was always the same as far as I saw.

Without that hustle and attitude I don’t know if would’ve taken it as far as he did to wonder if he could’ve taken it further differently.
 

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I agree with a lot of what has been mentioned here, and will add that Dame making Cam VP while Hov was on vacation was a clear sign that Dame and Hov were no longer on the same page. After that, it was only a matter of time.
Dame made Cam VP to sign him. Hov was a scared c00n and felt threatened by the move, hence him fukking Dame, his partner of many years over. SMH.

So now instead of a thorough bro like Dame running things we have a billion dollar beta male.

If Dame was still on the Roc, Kanye doesn't become the c00n he is today.
 

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Is that how you feel? I feel like he didn't have to sacrifice much of that based on his latest records. But perhaps I'm wrong.


jay's been blatantly pushing agendas ever since he branched off.

he aint really saying much on 4:44 either. just a bunch of fake posturing because the WOKE wave is profitable right now.

don't believe the hype.
 

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Jay still didn't hurt his business relationships though. I agree with his mentality but it was how he executed going about his business dealings which was wrong


jay didn't hurt his business relationships because he didn't have to, thanks to dame.

if jay had a problem, he would sick dame on them. and then turn around and hang out with those same people while dame is barking at em.
 

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this is the real start of his ending.

had this not been caught on camera he probably would've got away with it but since this got national distribution and made kevin liles and def jam look like some bish ass suckers and snakes...it has been rumoured this is what got lyor cohen to put the wheels in motion to get dame up out of there.

perception is everything to them niccas

Dude went wild over a damn Jacket :russ: Cmon!

It's one thing to not want to c00n, to stick to your scruples and to have morals and principles but he went that hard over a damn jacket. He could have tried to rub shoulders with Def Jam but he went hard against them. I think he took business too personal at times.

jay didn't hurt his business relationships because he didn't have to, thanks to dame.

if jay had a problem, he would sick dame on them. and then turn around and hang out with those same people while dame is barking at em.
So how did he handle his own issues with some of those same business people after Dame left?
 

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Most of the Roc didnt fukk w/ Dame. Cris and Neef was only getting a couple of hundred for shows. He dumped a Bentley on Beans that had horrible financing. Hov didn't like him "dancing in the videos" He also wanted to move away from the Big Pimpin image. Dame married a cac. Ye married a cac. Do the math.

I cant embed the vid. But Bleek on drink champs said Dame was the last to know he burned too many bridges.
 

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Dude went wild over a damn Jacket :russ: Cmon!

It's one thing to not want to c00n, to stick to your scruples and to have morals and principles but he went that hard over a damn jacket. He could have tried to rub shoulders with Def Jam but he went hard against them. I think he took business too personal at times.


So how did he handle his own issues with some of those same business people after Dame left?

they're trying to claim his artists.
 
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