He didn't kiss ass, period. Big business, and really life in general, is all about kissing the right ass, it can make or break you sadly. You can just sense that Dame wasn't with that, he was about getting him and his team in position, he didn't care if he had to burn some bridges and bark on the crackers and their house slaves to do it. Unfortunately for him, his timid soft ass homeboys and partners couldn't wait for the opportunity to usurp him and start kissing all the rich corporate asses that Dame was kicking for them to get in the door, they discarded him like he wasn't the reason why they even got to where they got to, disgusting.
Where do you guys think Dame Dash went wrong?
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In the Def Jam meeting he humilated that one dude "thats why the artists punched you out" "your nothing, go clear a sample"
In the jacket video - yelling at Kevin Liles, his kid looks scared and e asks him if he's okay.
He put down people, harshly back then.
He was like 28 years old.
We all make miatakes, but why go at Flex now?
There was an article of him 2 million in debt, now he got 2 million suppisedly by that director - forgot his name.
I hope all is cool now.
It bothers me watching those old videos. However him protecting his brand was right. Like alot said here tho - his hurtful delivert was the issue.
Dame does have immense passion for hip hop tho.
Its inspiring. I wish nothing but the best for him.
In the jacket video - yelling at Kevin Liles, his kid looks scared and e asks him if he's okay.
He put down people, harshly back then.
He was like 28 years old.
We all make miatakes, but why go at Flex now?
There was an article of him 2 million in debt, now he got 2 million suppisedly by that director - forgot his name.
I hope all is cool now.
It bothers me watching those old videos. However him protecting his brand was right. Like alot said here tho - his hurtful delivert was the issue.
Dame does have immense passion for hip hop tho.
Its inspiring. I wish nothing but the best for him.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
that was on jay.
people didn't like dame's mouth but you cant say most of the roc didn't f*ck wit dame. name some names, cuz i'd argue that there were more artists over there that rocked with dame more.
besides bleek(of course), all we got is the young gunz and maybe freeway. who else? and you see what happened to the gunnaz & freeway's careers the minute dame stepped off. and beans career was over the minute he went back to rocafella later on.
even bleek said, it wasn't the same for the artists when dame was gone, and he was jay's guy all the way.
they were gone by then.
the LA reid era of def jam began around the same time as the rocafella split and jay became def jam president.
Dude went wild over a damn JacketCmon!
It's one thing to not want to c00n, to stick to your scruples and to have morals and principles but he went that hard over a damn jacket. He could have tried to rub shoulders with Def Jam but he went hard against them. I think he took business too personal at times.
it was bigger than the jacket brehski.
they were trying to brand the roc artists as def jam guys and take credit for the tour on the slick.
when was this??
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Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
He didn't get recognition for his contributions but who cares about that. Let them rock the jacket and speak to folks at Def Jam about that rather then going off and filming the situation.
It's how you handle the situation.
I dont necessarily disagree with you. Bleek even said he had love for Dame. But he also said Dame was bad for business. damn near everyone felt underpaid. The bottom line is everyone had a choice as to who they wanted to rock with. Who rocked with Dame when they split? No one.
This right here. To whites execs Dame was too unpredictable and even potentially violent. Plus he wasn’t the Talent. And he wasn’t about to upset the established way of doing things.
Nah that shyt sounded corny as hell when nikkas started saying it years ago, and it sounds even cornier now. Grown ass men talking like high school fakkits
Homer Simpson
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A lot of people went with dame
Dip? Beans cause he couldn't stay out of jail? You'd be hard pressed to post an interview of anyone with something nice to say about Dame then.
ajnapoleon
Veteran
Why when the young guns story about them getting paid little or nothing people say it’s jay
But at the same time say dame ran roc a fella
I still can’t understand that
But at the same time say dame ran roc a fella
I still can’t understand that
He played the dozens too much!Calling all my fellow hiphop heads!
With the recent Funk Flex/Dame Dash beef going on I figured I'd ask this question. I mean lets be honest, we seen Dame Dash when he was at his heights and he was recording executives, he was cocky, he was arrogant, he spent a lot of money and some would say he was a jerk in some ways.
At the same time, we know that the executives who run hiphop don't want to empower too many other executives especially black executives because then they lose some power and along with that some money. Dame calls these people culture vultures as you guys may already know. They sign artist to 360 deals and pretty much exploit the culture, you know the deal.
So with that said what do you guys think went wrong for Dame Dash? Was he too cocky and arrogant? Did he get ahead of himself and pretty much did he get in his own way?
or do you think the culture vultures broke up Roc a fella and with it brought forth the demise of Dame Dash?
Could it have been a mix of both?Let's discuss this!
Everyone can't handle you embarrassing them in front of well known folks
He built up too much hate for him because of it, and that energy prevented him from growing in the game. Listen to the combat jack interview when he was going back & forth with Just blaze.
Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
True, that makes sense too lol. Dame loved talking shyt and not everyone can handle that though to him it's just fun.
You have to be professional and there is more to that then just wearing a suit. Look at this pic
I know he didn't like this though he tried to play it off in the pic.
Renegade47
Superstar
no. i guarantee if dame wasnt black this wouldnt be an issue. but a black man protecting his shyt is an issue. you think they dont be yelling at meanings when people fukking up? theres video of lyor talking down on young thug. people called him a genius. dame does it and he fukking up and burning bridges. foh.
I wish it was as simple as race, Lyor collects the toll to cross said bridge. Dame's currency became no longer necessary to keep up the maintenance.