Where do you guys think Dame Dash went wrong?

[Guvnor]

no. i guarantee if dame wasnt black this wouldnt be an issue. but a black man protecting his shyt is an issue. you think they dont be yelling at meanings when people fukking up? theres video of lyor talking down on young thug. people called him a genius. dame does it and he fukking up and burning bridges. foh.

You're bugging, this has nothing on what Dame used to do. He was trying to encourage Young Thug to do quality work where as Dame would diss people and insult them. Dame would spend off a shyt ton of money. Another thing is it's one thing to yell at meetings when people mess up but Dame would over do it and get aggressive with people over little shyt. He had the wrong mentality for business.

 

[Renegade47]

You're bugging, this has nothing on what Dame used to do. He was trying to encourage Young Thug to do quality work where as Dame would diss people and insult them. Dame would spend off a shyt ton of money. Another thing is it's one thing to yell at meetings when people mess up but Dame would over do it and get aggressive with people over little shyt. He had the wrong mentality for business.

dog in that jacket video it was way more important to be pissed off they were undermining them.

they the ones that did everything for the tour and def jam was being cut throat trying to be underhanded and take credit for everything like they had a 60% stake in rocafella.

im not saying dame was perfect and that he never did wrong but you cant look at that video and act like “o its just a jacket and you can go talk to them calmly about it later” fukk no. you cant be soft with someone tryna pull a fast one on you.

 

[Claudex]

Lol that's a good way to move the goal post breh. Never said he was the biggest ass hole but he was a jerk and obnoxious.



Answer it breh

I did answer it.

It was Christmas time, couldn't sit down to answer that question. Honestly I'm not the person qualified to answer that question...I just understand that if the bold is true it's because Dame wasn't giving the circle the motivation to follow his vision, and a lot of the times that happens because the people with the vision don't want to either work (meaning they delegate everything and shout at people when things don't go their way, so it's never their failure) or to allow things to move smoothly (they restrict everybody's movement because of their need for control).

Dame's a self proclaimed BOSS. But in life the real BOSS is always the one who's a servant to everybody else in the team. The one who's always paying attention to who's upset/disgruntled, the one making sure everybody's good, and the one who scouts whoever becomes a threat to the vision.

I don't think Dame's a bad dude. I don't even think he's an actual a$$hole. He knows how to show his vision pretty clearly, and is actually an inspiring dude with the words. But I can't help but think he's missing a key ingredient to truly make the most of his talents, and that's why I said he's lazy, because the ingredient he's missing could be acquired if he were just a little more introspective. Just a little more "okay, I fukked up here, how do I not make this same mistake again?".

Speaking less and hearing more would probably do him a lot of good I feel.

These are just my cents though. I don't play them "I know I'm right" top-of-a-horse type of games, meaning I could be wrong.

 

[TL15]

20 minutes before this photo was taken

 

[Guvnor]

I did answer it.



I don't think Dame's a bad dude. I don't even think he's an actual a$$hole. He knows how to show his vision pretty clearly, and is actually an inspiring dude with the words. But I can't help but think he's missing a key ingredient to truly make the most of his talents, and that's why I said he's lazy, because the ingredient he's missing could be acquired if he were just a little more introspective. Just a little more "okay, I fukked up here, how do I not make this same mistake again?".

Speaking less and hearing more would probably do him a lot of good I feel.

These are just my cents though. I don't play them "I know I'm right" top-of-a-horse type of games, meaning I could be wrong.

No you did not.

You said you don't wanna answer it breh. I asked what you thought Jay sacrficed to get to the top.

 

[Ol’Otis]

name a black music exec?

it wasn't him burning bridges

Why Hasn't the Hip-Hop Boom Pushed More Black Executives to the Top?



that had this shyt planned already

 

[pawdalaw]

suge,puff,Top,jprince,irv,baby,Buckshot, plenty in the south... I could name quite a few more. Not saying that there shouldn't be more, just saying that we have a large enough sample size to say yeah, he burned bridges. Why does Baby get chance after chance? He knows who not to cross.

 

[Cladyclad]

suge,puff,Top,jprince,irv,baby,Buckshot, plenty in the south... I could name quite a few more. Not saying that there shouldn't be more, just saying that we have a large enough sample size to say yeah, he burned bridges. Why does Baby get chance after chance? He knows who not to cross.

Contrary to belief Baby a chill guy. If he have a issue he don’t need to yell to get his point across.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

suge,puff,Top,jprince,irv,baby,Buckshot, plenty in the south... I could name quite a few more. Not saying that there shouldn't be more, just saying that we have a large enough sample size to say yeah, he burned bridges. Why does Baby get chance after chance? He knows who not to cross.

Most of those guys are characters or c00ns. Diddy barely does music, Irv is in tv and film. Guys like Top Dog are outliers. They let Baby hang around because he’s an idiot and would end up going broke anyway.

Irv is a prime example. He still licks Lyor’s boots to this day and he loves to talk about how Lyor used to give them as much weed and drugs as they wanted at video shoots. Fool didn’t even realize Lyor was doing that for a reason.

“Here take this weed so you forget I’m taking all of the money you should be getting.”

They were afraid of Suge and J. Prince and did everything they could to get them out the game. Dame was abrasive but more than that he was intelligent. He saw the game they played and was exposing it back then.

The guys still around major music are LA Reid (is apart of a demographic and a c00n), Steve Stoute (ultimate c00n and whipping boy), Kevin Liles (Lyor’s personal servant), basically guys who play “the game”.

 

[pawdalaw]

Contrary to belief Baby a chill guy. If he have a issue he don’t need to yell to get his point across.

That's my point. he only burn bridges with his subordinates and not those he has to sit down/rub shoulders with. You would think otherwise from his track record. Hell look at Percy. He was finessing all of them label heads. But they kept doing business with him because he was a business man.

 

[pawdalaw]

@Squirrel from Meteor Man.

You Juelzing. Puff barely does/did music?

Irv got most of his artists their masters.

Prince still in the game. Suge took himself out. We don't have one story of Suge barking at Jimmy.

Yeah and they gave Baby the largest deal ever because they knew he would be broke... Yet the Nikka been on top for 25 years.

Some of yall need to think before posting.

 

[Cladyclad]

I’m sorry but this Dame being a great businessman just have to stop. Just because u scream don’t make u a great businessman. Not one time did anyone give example of him being a great businessman

What artist did he ever discover?

If it wasn’t for Irv maybe rocafella go to Def Jam & who knows what happens if that don’t take place. I never even really hear him being in stories revolving around RD. Not saying he didn’t contribute to the album. But I would love to hear what he did to make the album what it was. I’m just tired of hearing shyt with no examples or evidence

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Dame made Cam VP to sign him. Hov was a scared c00n and felt threatened by the move, hence him fukking Dame, his partner of many years over. SMH.

So now instead of a thorough bro like Dame running things we have a billion dollar beta male.

If Dame was still on the Roc, Kanye doesn't become the c00n he is today.

No he didn’t lol. Cam had signed and already released come on home with me. He was on the radio cause nas had dissed him and said his album was trash

He did it without letting jay know while he was on vacation, pure snake shyt.

Another fukked up thing that dame was doing was losing himself money out of roc a fella accounts to fund his private businesses and he actually got jay to promo Armadale vodka and kept all the profit

Not to mention dame issues with neef, O and beans, bleed also

Dame is a good dude, but he feels like he can talk down towards people and after a certain point nikkaz get tired of you

At the end of the day jay didn’t need to forever be linked with dame and Biggs

Jay wanted to allow them to keep all the master and keep RD, plus he was gonna let them keep all the artist and a roc a fella name

Lol dame said no even tho jay had all the power, that’s wild disrespectful


Shoulda stayed in food and beverage

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

No he didn’t lol. Cam had signed and already released come on home with me. He was on the radio cause nas had dissed him and said his album was trash

He did it without letting jay know while he was on vacation, pure snake shyt.

Another fukked up thing that dame was doing was losing himself money out of roc a fella accounts to fund his private businesses and he actually got jay to promo Armadale vodka and kept all the profit

Not to mention dame issues with neef, O and beans, bleed also

Dame is a good dude, but he feels like he can talk down towards people and after a certain point nikkaz get tired of you

At the end of the day jay didn’t need to forever be linked with dame and Biggs

Jay wanted to allow them to keep all the master and keep RD, plus he was gonna let them keep all the artist and a roc a fella name

Lol dame said no even tho jay had all the power, that’s wild disrespectful


Shoulda stayed in food and beverage

Without Dame the Roc doesn't become the Roc, PERIOD.

We see how The Roc became a shyt label the second he left, despite The Roc having the supposed "King of Rap" on its Roster.

Jay sold his brothers out to run with Jews and Russians. Pathetic and sad.

 

[hiphopfanatic]

I think we all know where Dame went wrong. Dame going Dame. He's loudmouth, overbearing, and believes he's right any everyone else is wrong. I take nothing way from him as he's had great success. But ask yourself one question would you want to do business with him?

This right here. Once Jigga parted ways with him, no one wanted to deal with him anymore.