LeBron didn't carry a team of bums. He had players that complimented him. It should have been more than evident when they went 7 with Boson's Big 3 when LeBron played like shyt for at least 5 games.I understand the fact that the Knicks are horrible this year and I can see why dudes would be using that against him. We also all know he hasn't accomplished much in the playoffs in his career. Still, this is the only year he's missing the playoffs and it's not like his play has been a catalyst for that. He's playing harder than any point in his career, his shooting has improved, he's lessened his turnovers and his defense has become more passable.
You have people putting klove and other guys that have NEVER led a team to the playoffs above him while using this season's team failures as a way to shyt on melo. It really doesn't make any sense. Melo isn't a distributor, so he won't be able to carry a team of bums like lebron and, because of that, you have to factor in how fukking terrible literally everybody on the knicks has been this year. Our fans are hyping up THJR as the second best performer of the season and he's shown some offensive talent, but he might be one of the worst perimeter defenders in the league. The fact that a rookie coming off the bench that can't defend at all has been our second best player should tell you all you need to know about what's happened this year.
Like several other Knicks fans have said, I hope he bounces and enjoys success because he's wasting his time here
Where is Carmelo Anthony on your top 10
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melo really needs to bounce. He can't be wasting prime years like this. Dude aint a youngin anymore. This is legacy time.
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Who are the top 10 players in the league, in your opinion?
RugbyCardigan
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Okay..if you keep telling yourself that. The Cavs team that went to the Finals and current Knicks production is almost identical.Who on those teams are still starting let alone still in the league besides Mo Williams?
Futuristic Eskimo
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They might've complimented him and it worked to an extent, but they weren't shyt without him. There is no disputing that fact.
no they aren't. The Cavs played excellent team defense.
You disqualify yourself from top 10 consideration when your team has a comparable/worse record than the Pistons, Kobe-less Lakers, Boston, DENVER, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte, Utah etc. AND you are big part of the reason they are in that position. How much better off is Brooklyn from a talent/injury/coaching perspective?
I would have to really sit and think about an actual list because it's about more than numbers. Ability and production wise he's probably on it. However, when you get to talking about elite players (which a top 10 list is synoymous with) you have to look at their overall impact on the game and their team. Clearly Melo is not has impactful as his numbers would suggest.
Nobody is expecting him to win a championship or even compete for one by himself but there is no excuse for the Knicks being this bad with an "elite player" leading them. He's not some rookie or young player going through growing pains. Other teams (without a player of his caliber) have had similar issues in terms of talent and injuries and still manage to have comparable or even better records. There is no excuse for a "top 10" player allowing his team to be THIS bad breh.
I had Melo in my top ten and he still probably belongs there but I think Bron KD Harden CP3 Blake Steph Paul George and Dwight are better. Maybe even Russy and Lamarcus too and even guys like Dirk Duncan and Parker have an argument to still being top 10 to 15 players in the league. And that's not even including cats like Kyrie Lillard and Wall who could make a case too. The only reason I wont put Anthony Davis and Kevin Love (Kyrie as well) in the top ten is because they haven't been to the playoffs yet.
I don't really think it's fair to put that on Melo this year when his 2nd best player is J.R. Smith, his center is never healthy and afraid to shoot the ball outside 2 feet from the basket, and his PG is Raymond Felton.
1. Kevin Durant
2. Lebron James
3. Chris Paul
4. Kevin Love
5. Blake Griffin
6. Dwight Howard
7. Steven Pepper
8. Paul George
9. Carmelo Anthony
10. Lamarcus Aldridge
That's my order. Harden is the honorable mention at 11. Westbrook if healthy would be on it too.
Edit: Joakim Noah and Goran Dragic could be on the list too.
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Melo is a unique player...it's really tough to gauge his worth. He's never been on a team or been coached by someone who's demanded he shared the ball. Briefly with Chauncey I guess...but that's Melo's fault as much as anyone else's.
The best comparison I guess would be Harden because he dominates the ball too....but he's the better finisher and passer. Melo's obviously the better rebounder.
The best comparison I guess would be Harden because he dominates the ball too....but he's the better finisher and passer. Melo's obviously the better rebounder.
It's a team concept. Nobody allows a team to suck, but the front office. No player makes another player better or worse.
This is not true. You honestly gonna tell me that guys like Lebron, Kobe, Mike, Magic, Kidd, Duncan, Bird etc. didn't have an impact on their teammates? Obviously there is only so much you can do...you can't make Smush Parker into Tony Parker I get that. However this team demonstrated the ability to play at a higher level last year and as many have said Kidd's presence was a big part of that. Being a top 10/max player is about more than just getting your numbers. There is no excuse for a team with at top 10 player on it being worse than the fukking Lakers, Jazz, Pistons etc.
Aye-P
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U can't carry a team of bums when your whole team doesn't have the urge to win. And we see that night in and night out no one wants to win in NY but melo, Tyson, and maybe THJR. That's why all of those guys made their team look better than they really where. The supportting cast wanted to win just as bad so the load wasn't really that heavy.
U can't carry a team of bums when your whole team doesn't have the urge to win. And we see that night in and night out no one wants to win in NY but melo, Tyson, and maybe THJR. That's why all of those guys made their team look better than they really where. The supportting cast wanted to win just as bad so the load wasn't really that heavy.
Fam we aren't talking about winning championships or even making the playoffs at this point we are talking about being better than the Pistons breh...the Lakers...the Jazz. One guy can galvanize his team to be better than this. Especially a team that with the same parts basically was a 2 seed last year.