Who cares about Hinkie stepping down. He's already done irreparable damage to the NBA and the 76ers.

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The Warriors never at any point tanked. How the fukk are you tanking and giving David Lee 80 million? You understand the Sixers were fined last season for not reaching the salary FLOOR? They only reached it this year because of Javale McGee and Gerald Wallace adding up for a third of the team payroll. There's a grand distinction between trying to win and making bad signing (Kings, Bucks, Wolves) and fielding a D league team to manipulate the draft. Sad thing is, no draft pick is worth throwing away 3 seasons like they have.
The most teams tank is like two years. After two years, you move from it.

GS never tanked. Hell Milwaukee never tanked. It's one thing to suck, another to tank
 

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But the Warriors still have three lotto picks in their starting lineup, which is a testament on how important lotto picks are. Most premier talent is found in the lottery, and the best teams typically have their franchise guys from lottery picks.

Curry went 7th, Thompson went 11th and Barnes went 7th. That shows that if you can scout and draft, you can find stars. Imagine the Warriors dealing Monta Ellis for (a future first) instead of for Bogut, and never signing Iguodala and sitting on the $ to lose as much as possible? Warriors kept their veteran players and those years where they were bounced early in the playoffs did wonders for the development in which you see the fruits of today.
 

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I hate this mindset. There is nothing wrong with getting to the 2nd round and going back to the drawing board trying to get that missing piece. Dallas did it. Phoenix tried to do it. San Antonio did it as does many NBA teams. Of course, no one wants to be where Philly was with Iggy as their best player. Where your best player is a 6th man on a great team and a starter on a playoff team and definitely not a legit all star and that's clearly your best player. No one wants that unless it's like Boston where you got top 5 picks coming your way at the end of the season and even they have excellent depth and great salaries so without the picks, they are in a solid position for the future.

But there is nothing wrong with being Miami, Atlanta or Toronto. It's quite enjoyable and your always looking for that one piece that could get you there.
There is definitely something wrong with it. I wouldn't put the heat there, cause they are missing bosh. And still, they regularly beat the cavs. So id say they have a chance


I'm talking about the pacers. Avg ass team since damn Reggie Miller. Never won shyt. No big free agent gonna go there. Not kd, not Russ, if Lebron leave, not him. Not kyrie. None of them.

And yet they are good enough to not get a draft pick worth a damn. And pretty much have first round loss written all over them.

The Hawks is another team. Never won shyt. Just keep on getting to the playoffs and what? Nothing.


The league has changed. These dudes are teaming up fast. They want to go to a place with good coaches, good players, good history. You just simply are not going to get a SUPERstar to about 20 teams in the league.

Not unless you draft one first. Or have so much cap room, you can buy two at once. Dudes are not about to go to the Pistons and try and win cause they make the 8th slot.
 

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and for that, they have exactly 17 more wins, with the same possibly of nobody wanting to stay there when those contracts are up


now don't get me wrong.. looking at them, they are MILES ahead of the sixers.. but the sixers got zero #1's and again, 17 less wins... one of our top picks is injured and another isn't even in america... could that translate into a few more wins if we had them... i couldn't say it wouldn't

add in 2 top picks this year... and then we see what happens



trust me.. i'm a sixers fan... nothing about the last few years makes me happy... being 1 win away from the ECF, i was PISSED we traded away most the damn team to start over... all we needed was some top/high level FA


but if we were just going to flirt with being 8th seed/9th seed for the next 4 years, while getting the 19th pick... i wouldn't have wanted that shyt either



teams are basically looking at the top teams and saying "can we beat them" if it's a no... they basically saying "ok everyone is available"

if you can't beat the warriors, cavs, spurs, heat, thunder, clippers... can't even compete with them in a 4 game series... you might as well pack it up anyway
I'm not arguing against Hinkie's plan.

I'm disagreeing with you saying they picked the wrong years to tank.

Last year, they ended up with #3 in a 3 player draft that turned into a 2 player draft when Embiid got red flagged.
 

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The Warriors never at any point tanked. How the fukk are you tanking and giving David Lee 80 million? You understand the Sixers were fined last season for not reaching the salary FLOOR? They only reached it this year because of Javale McGee and Gerald Wallace adding up for a third of the team payroll. There's a grand distinction between trying to win and making bad signing (Kings, Bucks, Wolves) and fielding a D league team to manipulate the draft. Sad thing is, no draft pick is worth throwing away 3 seasons like they have.

People confuse tanking with just being a bad team. Neither the Thunder or the Warriors tanked, they just got lucky with the players they drafted. It seems like the Sixers keep tanking for the #1 pick, but none of the top players on the Thunder or Warriors were picked #1.
 

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The problem in this thread is people think Philly was intentionally trying to suck when that wasn't the mission. It was to collect cheap talent and undervalued players. When they started trading off overvalued players (Turner, MCW, Holiday) for draft picks people said OOOOO! They're tanking!!! and ran with it. Some of you even repeating that "Trust the Process" mantra when Hinkie nor any Philly exec ever said it.

That was definitely the mission. He wasn't even taking back players in return. And what happenswhen he finally wins that 1 player then struggles to find a complimentary young core that he already shipped off.
 

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I hate this mindset. There is nothing wrong with getting to the 2nd round and going back to the drawing board trying to get that missing piece. Dallas did it. Phoenix tried to do it. San Antonio did it as does many NBA teams. Of course, no one wants to be where Philly was with Iggy as their best player. Where your best player is a 6th man on a great team and a starter on a playoff team and definitely not a legit all star and that's clearly your best player. No one wants that unless it's like Boston where you got top 5 picks coming your way at the end of the season and even they have excellent depth and great salaries so without the picks, they are in a solid position for the future.

But there is nothing wrong with being Miami, Atlanta or Toronto. It's quite enjoyable and your always looking for that one piece that could get you there.
It's only enjoyable if that's as far as you think you can go. Philly wants more. Can't blame them. After a while it gets frustrating. Philly tried but let's be real: they were only gonna go so far. They bet on Bynum and it burned them. It wasn't like they said "wow we're in round 2. Let's blow it up." They went for the missing piece. It failed. They decided to start over. This isn't like the Marlins where they make splashy moves and then trade everyone a few months later.
 

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? For hinkie haters, when the sixers trade for Rudy gay and give chandler parsons max is this going to make you happy?, so you just go back to not caring bout the 7th seed 6ers?, will this restore order to the NBA?
 

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Hinkie was not special, he gambled on this tanking shyt, it would have worked if he had success drafting players, from three drafts what do they have? Greg Oden and two bigs who cant work together and will end up forcing one out of the team? And that euro saric guy? Do you see a future superstar in any of those guys? Cause I really don't.

I mean rebuilding is a process that takes time, it's good that they did not sign those washed up treadmill players and did not force themselves for that 8th seed chasing shyt, but their rebuilding plan took much longer than it was supposed to be. 4th year and no sign of this team being a playoff threat soon. Look at the bucks they tanked like 2 seasons at most and they have the future set. Look at the jazz, they were in playoffs in 2012 just like sixers, 4 years later they are back in the playoffs with the squad which will only get better from this point.

They better get lucky in those drafts with all those 1st round picks this year.
 

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Oh, and the Warriors DID tank. They did it to keep the pick that became Harrison Barnes. If that pick fell one more spot it would have gone to Utah.
That's not Philly tanking. That's Sacramento tanking where you need to keep your pick. They had Klay and Steph. These guys got rid of everyone.
 
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