Who created God?

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I'm not religious myself but not anti-religious neither. I've thought about this, and the thing I understand is that IF you accept the concept of a God as the ultimate creator of everything, there is no reason to believe that he himself was created by something/someone else. He IS, and that's it. Also we humans see time as linear, so there "must" be a before and after in our understanding of the world. But that hasn't always been the case, some old civilizations saw time as circular, in which what is has always been and will always be. That could apply also to God, who for all we know exists in a whole other way of understanding time.

Edit : in a way it's like the outer space. Our understanding of geographics and whatnot says that something has a beginning and an end. So that would mean that somewhere, the universe ends. Obviously just thinking about the sheer size of universe makes us dizzy and is beyond what we can envision, so now imagine that all that ends somewhere. The question now is : what is there after the universe ends? And if it doesn't end, how can it go on for infinity? These are things our minds can't really think about with the logic we have develop, which is limited to earthly things.
 
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Being created and being “God” are not necessarily mutually exclusive though...

If we are created, how do you know that our God/Creator is not simply some sufficiently advanced creation? E.g we are living in a simulation created by some higher being in his basement lab?

You can't be God if you are created. Again, if God created everything how could God be a product made up from what was created?

I see Da Vinci creation but I don't scrape paint off the canvas looking for him.
 

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You can't be God if you are created. Again, if God created everything how could God be a product made up from what was created?

I see Da Vinci creation but I don't scrape paint off the canvas looking for him.
I see what you’re saying.
However, I put “God” in quotations to specifically reference a case in which our creator could in fact be created. Again...the simulation example...how would our creator in that example be distinguishable from God?
 
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to me the God concept is a case of
who made who.
did God create us or did we create God
to explain the unexplained in creation.
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But how could something exist without having been created first?

Again, not coming at anyone's beliefs...I just don't understand how this is logically possible .
If you want to put that way then how can one believe in the Big Bang Theory
 

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A beginning has to exist... because without a beginning we wouldn’t be here... however when we delve into our very existence we contemplate the nature of our existence and how it happened. I’ve questioned the existence of God since I was a child because I could not fathom that a being always existed. Even if I believed in the Big Bang theory there has to be something that always existed to make it happen. It becomes so consuming that you can’t comprehend the possibility of something always existing but then when you look at our world, how do you rationalize it? Why are we here? What is the purpose and maybe God exists to give us a purpose because if there’s no purpose then what’s the point? Are we here based on some cosmic idea that we just happened to be created? If so then is all life as easily extinguishable as that moment of creation? Are we just a product of matter coming together and our ending will be the same? When we think a higher power had a hand in our existence then we can believe that we have a greater meaning because we want to be here for a reason.
 

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If you want to put that way then how can one believe in the Big Bang Theory

The Big Bang Theory is not concerned with who/what created the universe or what may have existed before it. It is simply an accounting of the formation of the universe based on observational evidence, eg. cosmic microwave background, objects throughout the universe moving away from each other, accelerating expansion, etc.

In short, the Big Bang Theory and Intelligent Design are not mutually exclusive.
 
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