No Limit had more impact regarding business sense (80/20 deal, flooding the market with albums, nonstop work ethic, covers for upcoming albums inside the booklet), CMR has the longevity factor, Weezy influenced the entire current rap generation
Who Had The Bigger Impact? Cash Money Or No Limit [Update: Poll Added]
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Marlo Barksdale
Really out chea
You serious? No Limit was #1 from late 97 (after Bad Boy) to mid-99 (before Ruff Ryders and CMR) easily, dropping tons and tons of gold/plat/multiplat albums, south/midwest/west was bumpin' MP/Silkk/TRU/C/Snoop/Mystikal etc heavily
Bad Boy ran rap overall then. No Limit never truly cracked New York. Juvenile & Cash Money did. You never saw any videos of No Limit in New York.
No Limit was up there but they were always sort of an underground down south phenomenon that was never fully accepted mainstream. Listen to this intro.
1998 was arguably No Limit. In 1998, Bad Boy was still living off the hige 1997 they had with "Benjamins", "Feel So Good", "Been Around The World". Then "Lookin At Me" was a huge single in 1998. "24 Hrs. To Live" and "Victory" were big too. Still, Bad Boy only dropped one rap album in 1998, which was The Lox's "Money, Power, Respect" where No Limit had several platinum albums that year.
The title said "Impact"
So clearly, No Limit easily.
So clearly, No Limit easily.
Marlo Barksdale
Really out chea
Again, No Limit did numbers but they never could fully penetrate New York/MTV and you can make an arguement that Def Jam had them easily. No Limit was never a media darling and by 1998 there were actually showing signs of the eventual full falloff. Thats why Cash Money was able to come the end of 1998 and get them out the paint as the defacto Southern label.
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
Matter of fact, Suave House and Hypnotize Minds>>>>>>>>No Limit
In 1998, No Limit was a media darling. They covered several issues of The Source and Vibe Magazine. They performed at the VMA's. 1998 wasn't the fall off. They capped off 1998 with Mystikal's Ghetto Fabulous. 1999 was the fall off and that's when CMR usurped No Limit's spot.
In temrs of Def Jam, there is. A Source cover featuring Puffy, Master P, and Russel Simmons on the Power 30 cover.
Doctor Wily
CapcomSwag
No Limit end of discussion.
Cashmoney wouldve never blew up if P didnt make his mark first.
Cashmoney wouldve never blew up if P didnt make his mark first.
Cash Money was doing 6 figure sales as an indie..their time was coming and P knew it...
According to big Rufus, P blocked them from getting a deal at priority records....
That might explain some of the hostility cash money had towards no limit...
Them doing 6 figure sales was still on the heels of No Limit's success. By the time CMR dropped their biggest indie successes, No Limit already had platinum projects in TRU 2 Da Game and the I'm Bou It Soundtrack.
The only thing I give P credit for is Branding. The way he developed a brand and pushed it was impeccable. I really don't think the marketing in the album was that great, It was the affiliation with the tank symbol that pushed the label.
But other than that, he pretty much stole every idea and 90% of what they released was trash.
Cash Money has been impacting before and after No Limit. No comparison.
Breh, nobody had complete artwork for an entire rosters being advertised in each album. I mean, every artist featured on Ghetto D had an advertisement in the booklet complete with artwork. You were seeing and hearing each artist without ever having to pick up a magazine or see the video to know waht they looked or sounded like or know that they had an album coming.
No Limit being unoriginal is neither here or there, we're talking impact.
CMR's greatest impact before No Limit blew up was "Drag Em N Tha River" and even the impact of that song is nearly nonexistent without Mystikal (who later signed to No Limit). Speaking of Mystikal, he gained national attention before CMR or No Limit. He was already moving units locally and regionally which got him a deal with Jive.
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FOH rewriting history with your bias bullshyt. Stating your opinions doesn't make facts you moron
Tell me that all those Fiend, Mac, Mia X, TRU, C-Murder, Kane&Abel, compilation/soundtrack albums were the shyts. No doubt there was some horseshyt put out (some very disappointing albums in 99 from Silkk, C, Serv, P. Some bullshyt from Full Blooded or Lil Soldiers, which did have their moments tho). FOH
As the other guy said, Mystikal was a bigger name in the mid-90s than the entire CMR, and No Limit picked him up easily in mid-97. CMR didn't sell that much in their independent days, don't believe the Williams bros.' bullshyt act. They were a hot regional act, that was it. So was Twista in Chicago or Trick Daddy in Miami around that time, nothing to it
And when people say Master P was biting CMR when he came back to New Orleans from Richmond seem to forget that the Parkway artists had joined No Limit at this point. KLC was like the leader who brought in Mia X, Serv, Soulja Slim, and some others. Mo B. dikk (P's cousin) was also a part of this crew. This was also a huge reason why Mystikal signed.
