Who here can't bench above 300

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OK, so Way back when you went to basic training did they have You hit the weight pile first or did they have you train with your own body weight?

I'm not getting prior or current U.S. military vibes from you. :usure: You sound like you're talking out your ass.


There's way too many people moving through PT formations at the same time in boot to have folks in the gym. :dahell:


Calisthenics is:
- cheaper (less space needed, less equipment needed)
- requires less training to instruct (how many people snap their shyt up doing push-ups vs squats/bench/deadliffs :mjlol:)
- and less training to test and evaluate (most folks don't know what a parallel squat is).

Military fitness tests are about muscular and cardiovascular endurance, not strength or power or aesthetics anyways. :rudy:


Anybody that's been "in" in the last quarter century knows them SOF dudes stay in the gym. Sure, they still swim, ruck, run and do bodyweight shyt but them dudes are straight gym rats. Non-SOF troops love them some weights too. :yeshrug:


And :lolbron: at thinking boot camp PT sessions get folks combat ready. :dead:
 

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I'm not getting prior or current U.S. military vibes from you. :usure: You sound like you're talking out your ass.


There's way too many people moving through PT formations at the same time in boot to have folks in the gym. :dahell:


Calisthenics is:
- cheaper (less space needed, less equipment needed)
- requires less training to instruct (how many people snap their shyt up doing push-ups vs squats/bench/deadliffs :mjlol:)
- and less training to test and evaluate (most folks don't know what a parallel squat is).

Military fitness tests are about muscular and cardiovascular endurance, not strength or power or aesthetics anyways. :rudy:


Anybody that's been "in" in the last quarter century knows them SOF dudes stay in the gym. Sure, they still swim, ruck, run and do bodyweight shyt but them dudes are straight gym rats. Non-SOF troops love them some weights too. :yeshrug:


And :lolbron: at thinking boot camp PT sessions get folks combat ready. :dead:

Nah, I personally was never in the military. However people have been training with calisthenics for thousands of years without ever having touching a weight. Now if you combine that with some type of combat training that will make you combat ready. So my point is benching 300 pounds don’t mean shyt.
 

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Nah, I personally was never in the military. However people have been training with calisthenics for thousands of years without ever having touching a weight. Now if you combine that with some type of combat training that will make you combat ready. So my point is benching 300 pounds don’t mean shyt.

Ah, so you don't actually know what it's like to bench 300+ or be in the military? :mjlol: :unimpressed:

Weak nikkas in this bytch copping pleas like bots cop PS5s. :bryan:


Cool, I think I'm done debating this shyt witchu. :hubie:
 

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Update: I've been rowing fairly hardcore lately. I only lift to increase rowing endurance and strengthen the muscles needed for rowing. Lot of core and lower back work. Lot of band work and stretching. Trying to maximize energy.

Recently threw two plates on bench and struggled.

Dumbbell Bench: Used to hit 145 sets, now probably maxing at 110 or 115.
Barbell Bench: Used to hit 315 sets, now maxing at probably 225 or 235.

Couldn't be happier. Throw on some Oakleys, hit a boathouse, take out a single hull, or row in pairs/quads/eights.
Surf, mountaineer. Surf ski.

For me, being in the gym all day to build some temporary muscle is far inferior to living an overall sporty type life. In fact, the whole reason I was in the gym initially was to prepare for a great lifestyle, never intended for it to become my lifestyle.

I will say, having hit some of those "higher" numbers in the past probably gave me the closure needed to not care about hitting 'em now.

In short, do what works for you!
 

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Ah, so you don't actually know what it's like to bench 300+ or be in the military? :mjlol: :unimpressed:

Weak nikkas in this bytch copping pleas like bots cop PS5s. :bryan:


Cool, I think I'm done debating this shyt witchu. :hubie:


What the fukk do I need to be able to do either of those things to be able to protect myself and evade dangerous situation with a reasonable amount of ability?

I ain’t out here trying to be Rambo?


Being able to bench a whole Lotta weight don’t mean shyt except you’re setting yourself up to be injured.

 

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What the fukk do I need to be able to do either of those things to be able to protect myself and evade dangerous situation with a reasonable amount of ability?

I ain’t out here trying to be Rambo?


Being able to bench a whole Lotta weight don’t mean shyt except you’re setting yourself up to be injured.

Me and the gym broskis been benching 300+ for years with no issues. :umad:



I’ll let you chill over there with push-ups. :unimpressed:



Stay small and weak, my friend. :pachaha:
 

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I've found nobody really cares about your PRs anymore as you get older other than yourself and maybe some other gym rat or two. I've maxed out at 315 and aside from a short ego boost, there was no huge benefit to doing so.

Women aren't checking for powerlifters like that and putting all that pressure on your joints lifting super heavy starts taking a toll as your age gets up there.

Cardiovascular health is more important in the long-run. Mixing in light to midsize weights with calisthenics is a good solution so that you are maintaining decent size, getting cut up and improving your cardiovascular health.
 

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Me and the gym broskis been benching 300+ for years with no issues. :umad:



I’ll let you chill over there with push-ups. :unimpressed:



Stay small and weak, my friend. :pachaha:


I gave up heavy weights. Now I do push-ups, dips, body squats and pull ups and chins galore. Plus I hit the heavy bag for rounds.

Manly shyt. If you don’t think that shyt will make you strong you don’t know shyt about working out. All That heavy lifting shyt makes you are inflexible and lethargic. But to each his own.
 

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I gave up heavy weights. Now I do push-ups, dips, body squats and pull ups and chins galore. Plus I hit the heavy bag for rounds.

Manly shyt.
If you don’t think that shyt will make you strong you don’t know shyt about working out. All That heavy lifting shyt makes you are inflexible and lethargic. But to each his own.

I don't. :unimpressed:


We'll just say I don't know shyt about working out then. :manny:


What you considered heavy weighta (which you "gave up") is prolly what I think of as hoe weights. :yeshrug:
 

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Nah, I personally was never in the military. However people have been training with calisthenics for thousands of years without ever having touching a weight. Now if you combine that with some type of combat training that will make you combat ready. So my point is benching 300 pounds don’t mean shyt.
Only Part I agree with is the last sentence.

Benching 3 plates is up there with leg pressing 6+ plates to me. It’s fukking useless and not a true measurement of being fit.


Being able to do 15+ pull-ups takes strength.
Being able to squat at least 3 plates atg takes strength.

And being able to deadlift at least 5 plates takes strength
 
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