Why aren't Middle Class/Upper Middle Class blacks taking advantage of "gentrification"? Or Are they?

[Warren Moon]

For example, I have said in the past on here, ATL if literally throwing money at people to buy in hoods they want to gentrify. The ATL housing Authority is all black, and begging blacks to move in , yet blacks are on that . In turn young hipster whites are taking advantage of the grant money, getting homes DIRT CHEAP. Crime in the city is at a historic all time low, so crime aint even the issue. I try putting people on game and they be on that "mane I`m trying to get a condo in Sandy Springs "

For example Westside of ATL literally has the bones to be the new Black Wallstreet. You have tons of nice homes /spots that can be renovated. Area for manufacturing, various Grade Schools, and 3 PRIVATE higher learning institutions in Clark, Morehouse, Spelman. You have ease of access to midtown,downtown,buckhead if you want to continue the corporate thing also.

Nikka I'm in the process of doing it right now. U mean to tell me the government will only make me put 1k down on a 200-250k house. Nikkas are dumb, I'm looking at castleberry hills or Edgewood.


I'm already being priced out of Edgewood due to the trolley shyt

 

[DrX]

no such thing as a Black middle class
http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-kids-become-black-lower-class-adults/384613/


bascially its just blacks with middle class jobs....but they dont have assets, saving etc......

 

[L&HH]

Yea in the 90s most blacks I knew moved out the hood and to the burbs, white flight happened and former white burbs became black suburbs, the issue was blacks didnt build a damn thing in these burbs + the mortgage crisis with folks getting stuff they couldn't afford, so many of the "hot" black burbs of ATL for example went down the drain when the bubble bursted, while white burbs in northern ATL were literally unaffected.

They just wrote an article about the post about this happening in PG County:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/in...ican-dream-shatters-in-prince-georges-county/

 

[Apollo Creed]

Nikka I'm in the process of doing it right now. U mean to tell me the government will only make me put 1k down on a 200-250k house. Nikkas are dumb, I'm looking at castleberry hills or Edgewood.


I'm already being priced out of Edgewood due to the trolley shyt

Yea castleberry hill is the move,my girls home girl gota nice condo there. Dont sleep on west end.

 

[filial_piety]

We are

 

[Blackking]

They're already moving to places like Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh, etc...

I agree with you though. It seems like the end game is to push black people almost exclusively to the south and midwest into suburban areas.

The problem with that? They simply move crime from one area to another and urban blight becomes suburban blight.

Like, crime in New York is at it's all time lowest point, but crime in areas like Newark, Patterson, surrounding areas that were once "the burbs" has skyrocketed.

For those that are interested...look up "revanchist gentrification".

This is the type of gentrification that's really going on in New York. Revanche is french for "revenge".

Basically, it's about the children of the white flight generation going into cities and reclaiming them for themselves from the hands of blacks and hispanics...

Im the only black person left where I live.

All tgee older blacks moved out

I've been arguing with the coli over this mentality the last few days....

But people don't get it...

We fight HARD for our own financial demise.

Anyone who does the right thing is called a militant.

Peace

 

[Buckeye Fever]

White people gon' end up takin over Black colleges too.

I saw this earlier after work

 

[AntiVenom]

There are blacks who are getting in on this and benefiting. I know 4 black people who have done as much with cheap properties since the 80s. Now if youre asking why arent they doing it in mass? Lack of interest I guess because they arent trying to make any sacrifices for the hood or they just see it as an undesirable place to live.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I lived in a spot that was well mixed, but had crime, the hipsters lived in studio city, 5 min south of where I lived but the rent was crazy high, my area then got cleaned up and gentrified and they started moving past the line (I lived right on the line) . didn't affect me much, rent went up by like $200, which wasnt shyt, I stayed and enjoyed the neighborhood and all its new perks (starbucks, new supermarket). Little more white people, little less mexicans, but the same number of blacks

 

[AntiVenom]

It seems mainly White people do the whole Urban Pioneering thing, why dont young well to do blacks jump on the same wave? I know in Atl there are parts of SW ATL that is being "gentrified" by Middle Class blacks, but it still pales to how whites are gentrifying every other part of the city.

For places like Harlem, BK, parts of LA, etc. Why do you think middle class blacks abandon these areas, then get mad when Whites set up shop?

Because they arent trying to be pioneers. They want something already established and prestigious. Theres really nothing more to it than that.

And I dont think that the same blacks who are abandoning those areas are complaining about the whites setting up shop. I doubt most really even give a damn.

they dont want anything to do with the hood

This too. Many of these people came out of the hood and have zero interest in coming back.

This is my thing, even when blacks move to the burbs, they build nothing and simply just live there. When all of the legit businesses close down because of white flight, they complain about how wack the area is instead of building, and move on to the next burb. If Blacks want to live in the burbs or wherever cool, but at least build a community. For example there is a burb in Metro ATL called Douglassville, its majority Black yet has a majority white gov. The ironic thing is blacks pass up on prime land because its "hood" move to the burbs and get a 6 bed room house for that they dont need, then complain about things like traffic.

Most arent pioneers. You have to have that vision if you want to "build" anything.They didnt go there to build anything...they went to enjoy what was already built. Theyre content to go with whats already established. Likewise if they were interested in building their own community...they would have done it by now. Most of them are good where theyre at. When theyre living comfortably they arent going to have that hunger to go out and pioneer anything.

Black folks are also stuck on this notion that black business has to serve some black clientele or have only black goods...and thats where it fails. What makes so many small white businesses grow is the lack of attachment to some underclass or subculture. It might sound like c00n shyt, but when it comes to making money, let the culture and social awareness come later....have good products, get your business in the black first.

This was a gem. Youre absolutely right its much more difficult to get a niche business off of the ground. Not to mention that there are too many black people who dont view business as business....they act like its a charity. Nothing c00nish about this. If youre going to invest your money into something....youre going to want a return on it.

 

[NobodyReally]

I don't know. I think black people want to be In diverse neighborhoods aka largely white neighborhoods with a large group of tokens from different races sprinkled in.

I asked my own blood why not move to stone mountain they have a large black suburban class.

Response. Not diverse enough.

That hurt my chess

I think this is it. My family had already moved out to the white suburbs, and that's where my parents raised us. When I grew older and started expressing interest in moving back to the city, my parents were horrified. They told me it would be a bad investment. 5 years later, when whites started moving back in, my dad admitted he made a wrong call and I should have jumped on the gentrification train. That's what chasing after white folks gets you...a step behind.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

This was a gem. Youre absolutely right its much more difficult to get a niche business off of the ground. Not to mention that there are too many black people who dont view business as business....they act like its a charity. Nothing c00nish about this. If youre going to invest your money into something....youre going to want a return on it.

Exactly. IMO if you want to provide a service...start a damn non-profit. But if you are trying to make money, you need to have a product the people of all creeds can relate to. We always want some sort of black identity to our business when the best businesses have a culture of NO identity. Wal-Mart, other big boxstores, Amazon. ect...you wouldn't be able to tell who runs these companies. We need to understand that, black folks need to be visible is one of our greatest weaknesses.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

I think this is it. My family had already moved out to the white suburbs, and that's where my parents raised us. When I grew older and started expressing interest in moving back to the city, my parents were horrified. They told me it would be a bad investment. 5 years later, when whites started moving back in, my dad admitted he made a wrong call and I should have jumped on the gentrification train. That's what chasing after white folks gets you...a step behind.

I recently moved to a more happening of the city and I had to field questions like this. Thing is many of these gentrified areas in their peaks are actually quite diverse. It just doesn't last long. In Midtown Detroit its 99% occupancy (which is unheard of for any neighborhood in Detroit) and something like 30% white, 55% black and the rest sprinkled in. Sounds lopsided but for a city that's 82% black its a come-up as far as diversity. Alot of these areas just have more shyt to DO. And the more we are visible in day to day the less apprehensive people will be to do business with us when it comes to investment. It also helps because we'd be spending money within our own communities.

I don't mind a few white folks in my hood, when it gets to a point where you no longer see any people of the working class (of any race) in the same areas as people who are middle or upper class that's when you have the disconnects and the lack of perspective. Detroit could really become a model for how you do this shyt responsibly if we do it right. I mean all the new developments in the Golden Triangle of Detroit (Downtown, Corktown, Midtown) usually have 30%-50% of their units dedicated to low-income housing. The shyt is literally the most important issue Detroit is going to face post-bankruptcy is how to include everyone in its resurgence.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

My family gettin rich off gentrification

 

[MostReal]

We don't have the generational Capitol to do it.
its that simple