Why Do Cubans Hate Castro So Much

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if funny tho, those same cubans did not care when the shoe was on the other foot tho
Another thing.

What do you mean by "the shoe was on the other foot?" Just because they were wealthy doesn't mean they are we beneficieries of the previous regimes. You do know that people can legally make money and pass it on to their children, right?

Like if some régime was to come to Haiti and seize all wealth and try to "redistribute it to the people" I'd be the first to gather arms against it. My great grandma and my grandfather left me land and I'll be damned if some Castro-like character tries to seize it and redistribute it to the poor. Some of those same poor people are people that used to own land but they and their families sold it. Why should I care enough to forsake my inheritance, land that my family worked hard for , just because the "shoe is in the other/my foot" at the moment?

The Cubans who hate Castro are mostly those that were from families who owned a lot of land and some of them worked hard for said land, doggy. Not everyone who is fortunate was in cahoots with the oppressors of the people.

My own father hated communists because he took pride in working hard and buying land. My father went from being homeless at 17 to owning his own business and being his former boss's boss by the time he was 22. He always told us this and this is an exact quote " even when I'm dead and gone don't you fukking dare sell the fruits of my labor, of my blood sweat and tears. I worked this hard for you and my pledge is to pass it on to you and for you to pass it on to the next generation . You sell my shyt to waste the money partying and I swear I hope I'll come back as a ghost to fukk you two up. Just watch"

That is the mentality of most Caribbean parents. But you fools here look at things in other countries from YOUR American lifestyle perspective and miss part of the point as @Dip mentioned
 
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cac cubans dont like him
The common dumb misconception. Sure it's most likely whites that don't like him but it goes way deeper than that. Again Castro ain't black or half black nor has he ever really promoted blackness like that.
 

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The common dumb misconception. Sure it's most likely whites that don't like him but it goes way deeper than that. Again Castro ain't black or half black nor has he ever really promoted blackness like that.


What does Castro not being black has to do with anything?

The majority of White Cubans DONT like him.
 

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What does Castro not being black has to do with anything?

The majority of White Cubans DONT like him.
Well the point I'm trying to the point I'm trying to make is just because white Cubans hate him it doesn't mean that black Cubans necessarily benefited that much from his reign. and I'm sure some of those who lost their wealth to the Communist system or Black too

When looking back at the conditions of black Cubans before Castro and their conditions right now there isn't that much of a difference.


A lot of black Americans love Castro because he stood against "the system" and gave Refuge to Black Panthers and was also a friend/ally to Malcolm X.

I fully understand that part.

My love for Castro (and Chavez) comes from their stance that smaller nations have the right to uphold their sovereignty and determine their own destiny without being manipulated by more powerful nations like the United States, Canada, Britain, France, Spain, etc. .

We are (and aspire to be) much more than your fukking vacation spots.
 
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Another thing.

What do you mean by "the shoe was on the other foot?" Just because they were wealthy doesn't mean they are we beneficieries of the previous regimes. You do know that people can legally make money and pass it on to their children, right?

Like if some régime was to come to Haiti and seize all wealth and try to "redistribute it to the people" I'd be the first to gather arms against it. My great grandma and my grandfather left me land and I'll be damned if some Castro-like character tries to seize it and redistribute it to the poor. Some of those same poor people are people that used to own land but they and their families sold it. Why should I care enough to forsake my inheritance, land that my family worked hard for , just because the "shoe is in the other/my foot" at the moment?

The Cubans who hate Castro are mostly those that were from families who owned a lot of land and some of them worked hard for said land, doggy. Not everyone who is fortunate was in cahoots with the oppressors of the people.

My own father hated communists because he took pride in working hard and buying land. My father went from being homeless at 17 to owning his own business and being his former boss's boss by the time he was 22. He always told us this and this is an exact quote " even when I'm dead and gone don't you fukking dare sell the fruits of my labor, of my blood sweat and tears. I worked this hard for you and my pledge is to pass it on to you and for you to pass it on to the next generation . You sell my shyt to waste the money partying and I swear I hope I'll come back as a ghost to fukk you two up. Just watch"

That is the mentality of most Caribbean parents. But you fools here look at things in other countries from YOUR American lifestyle perspective and miss part of the point as @Dip mentioned

I disagree with first bolded part. Most wealthy people in Cuba(and Haiti) at the time of Batista's fall were from the oligarch families who controlled the industries of the country. Either the white children of the former plantation owners, the mixed race children they had with their mistresses or wealthy Spaniards who moved to Cuba.

Certain there were some exceptions of people who worked hard and accumulated property, but what mechanisms of social mobility really existed in pre Castro Cuba?

They still have a right to be upset that their land was seized, but the rest of the populace would have the same right to not give a F about them, anymore than the wealthy families cared about the rest of the country.
 

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The thought of starting over is rough for people that are used to white supremacy.

If shyt aint utopia inmediately after the revolution it was a dud.

As if ur ancestors werent suffering extremely for centuries before liberation

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I disagree with first bolded part. Most wealthy people in Cuba(and Haiti) at the time of Batista's fall were from the oligarch families who controlled the industries of the country. Either the white children of the former plantation owners, the mixed race children they had with their mistresses or wealthy Spaniards who moved to Cuba.

Certain there were some exceptions of people who worked hard and accumulated property, but what mechanisms of social mobility really existed in pre Castro Cuba?

They still have a right to be upset that their land was seized, but the rest of the populace would have the same right to not give a F about them, anymore than the wealthy families cared about the rest of the country.
I said SOME of them, doggy.
 

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Another thing.

What do you mean by "the shoe was on the other foot?" Just because they were wealthy doesn't mean they are we beneficieries of the previous regimes. You do know that people can legally make money and pass it on to their children, right?
breh, idc, none of these people were "fleeing" when everyone else was poor and illiterate so why would anyone logically put their feelings before anyone else's quality of life.

im glad your family left you land but please also recognize your privilege in that compared to many haitians who havent even been left a meal, also please think of ways to use your privilege to help others rather than something to be guarded and protected so fiercely over the well being over another human being. also please be aware that your grandfather or father is not like, the hardest working haitian and that he probably didnt get everything in life from working hard (i think most american blacks work harder than most privileged whites no?) but rather proximity/luck/opportunity mixed with hard work (preparation). please dont play into the "exceptionalism" narrative that whites constantly use to stratify black social classes.

you keep making this about "american lifestyle" as if my black ass family doesnt have shyt they worked hard for as well. who gives an entire fukk when the rest of the world is suffering. the idea that people > things/property, i think, is a universal concept

either give back heavy or be prepared for the system to flop when people who arent so fortunate get tired of it
 
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while were on Cuba, I might need to do more of the googles but wasn't Cuba basically created as a vassal state for American business interests when the Cuban revolutionaries back at the end of the 19th century were about to whip the Spaniards ass and American concerns about the large black population of Cuba (majority of the Rebels if I'm recalling right) possible forming a government?
 
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