Why Do Cubans Hate Castro So Much

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Yes, both Castro and Che were educated men from elite backgrounds. Surprised me a bit when I read that as a teen because I feel as though it's the "have nots" who fight for revolution...not the "haves"

From what you know, has it always been that way in Cuba, where the Spaniards fully acknowledge the influence and existence of the African on the country. Did it start with Castro? The quote I just pulled from Castro was mentioned in SEVERAL books and articles that I've read over the years from Afro-Cubans and Afro-Latinos. The spoke of the significance of it, as though the opposite was the norm before.
I'm not sure, made a Cuban would be better able to answer that.
But it is worth noting that Cuba had slavery until the 1880s so that African influence was always fresh
 

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You know what's funny is that a few days ago , I posed a question to my colleague at work asking does he feel Tony M. would have considered him self a republican cause of his feeling towards Castro.

BTW, excellent thread.
 

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The govt. has done right by Cubans in regards to education, if it were simply about suppression and keeping everything to themselves they'd keep the population uneducated because education costs a ton in general. Cuba is cut off from trading with the US, they are losing billions every year from not being allowed to trade with a partner that for all intents and purposes would like to (ie. US investors and corps want in on Cuba).


Have you checked out the other democracies in the Caribbean, Central/South America to see how they're doing? You're under the false illusion that the Cuban people would benefit from unregulated open trade with America, when the reality is that America and investors would suck Cuba dry and exploit the people like they've done to the rest of the democratic countries in that region of the world. The elites would get the money, not the people, we literally have case studies all around Cuba as examples of what happens to US backed democracies in the Caribbean, so why would Cuba be different? All those countries with poor education and abnormally high murder rates have the US to thank, yet Cuba is the inverse of those countries and you want them to adopt the same ideologies that has the rest of the region struggling? shyt, Iraq was given Democracy, it looks like hell on earth now compared to when Saddam was in power, same with Libya.

We don't know what they could turn into if they were allowed to truly govern themselves without the oppressive embargo, but I have a fairly good idea what they'd turn into if the US imposed it's brand of Democracy on it.
Yeah true. It's better for them to govern themselves instead of having U.S.imposed democracy. And it's true that the U.S.would suck Cuba dry. They'll take over businesses like they did before the revolution. Democracy isn't an overnight thing. The process is long but can be done if done correctly. Cuba has plenty of resources to offer for trade. And I agree that Cuba has one of the best education systems in the world. High percent literacy rate and everything. As far as trade is concerned, yeah obviously it won't help anyone but the elites. But what would be the benefit of that? It'll turn into a 1% thing. I think the embargo being lifted could help and hurt them. Goods being made more available but to a certain portion of the population, kind of like the U.S. I think those other countries struggle because of the differences between communism and democracy. It's a completely different process.
 

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You wouldn't live there puto

@Yehuda people compared most in the diaspora[probably excluding Haitians] went through A LOT of hell and still are. So I don't get what you are getting at. What Afro-Cubans are going through now is minuscule imo to what his people went through.
 

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shyt is a joke, people just look right past the nearly 60 years of embargo and the type of effect that has on a country, and the fact it actually makes the regime stronger by limiting resources which they have even more control over. Without the embargo quality of life there would improve, would they be able to buy the latest $1300 phone every 6 months? Probably not, but there's no doubt in my mind they would be the China of the Caribbean with a communist govt and capitalistic practices, which the US definitely doesn't want.

If people believe that Cubans would be better off with a US backed "Democracy" they are out of their fukking minds, look at the crime rates, literacy, lifespan etc in Puerto Rico for a glimpse at what Cuba would look like if it didn't have a communist govt. That shyt would be Thailand south if these dirty ass devils had their way with the Island.

Good point about the crime rate.

It has the potential to SKYROCKET. Puerto Rico really is :huhldup:
 

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I wasn't born in the island or been there but from what I've heard around here was that he took control over everything and tortured those who opposed him. He created a system where everyone gets equal things. Which you may think is fine, but it's not enough. Hearing stories of families getting one chicken a week, a cup of rice a day, etc. Imagine you're a doctor here and you the same as a McDonald's worker. It's like he decided what people did with their money and how much they got. Ain't no six certs ballers in Cuba. He also makes every child, or I think boy, join the military at like 13 or so. My dad left when he was 10 or 11 luckily. People like Castro because he created a system of equality especially during a time when civil rights was going on. But it's not worth it. There needs to be equality but also opportunity to grow. I've heard stories of how Havana was like the las Vegas of the past. Then when he came in and took over that all ended. Cubans hated Castro because he held people back from success. Imagine if you work hard in this country and the government says whatever you own is theirs. Not to mention all the political prisoners he took. People argue here about those who voted for trump and those who didn't, but over there you have no other choices. I'm surprised he lasted so long but of course with the Russians backing him and some of his citizens admiring him, I can see why.

This is literally how america is set up today...

Don't pay taxes on your house and see what happens to it

Whatever land you think you own, don't pay taxes on it and see what happens to it.

Took out student loans? Don't pay them back when you are supposed to and see what happens...

Obviously not as extreme as what Castro was doing but yeah...
 

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@Yehuda people compared most in the diaspora[probably excluding Haitians] went through A LOT of hell and still are. So I don't get what you are getting at. What Afro-Cubans are going through now is minuscule imo to what his people went through.

People like to shyt on Cuba because of their living conditions as if Haiti, Chile, Brazil, or even Jamaica aren't worse. According to the United Nations, Cuba is ranked #68 on Human development. Their average life expectancy 79-80 and have one the best education systems for their students. If anyone says life under Castro was bad, can they also say most countries under imperialist/colonist rule are fine? If so. they're lying or in denial. Being a poor but independent country is way better than being under a corrupt capitalist's boot.
 

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People like to shyt on Cuba because of their living conditions as if Haiti, Chile, Brazil, or even Jamaica aren't worse. According to the United Nations, Cuba is ranked #68 on Human development. Their average life expectancy 79-80 and have one the best education systems for their students. If anyone says life under Castro was bad, can they also say most countries under imperialist/colonist rule are fine? If so. they're lying or in denial. Being a poor but independent country is way better than being under a corrupt capitalist's boot.
i see your point but idk if the countries you're using having similar or worse living conditions.
folks i know compare Cuba to Haiti
funny enough Haitians are moving to Chile and Brazil
 

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I grew up around a lot of them and the younger ones always say " he arrested and killed our family members", I never asked any older cubans before because they have attitudes with black people

but the italians here in tampa hate him, the tampa mob(trafficante) use to run cuba and when castro got the power he kicked them out and even had the tampa boss arrested a day before his daughters wedding
 

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