Had all you done was come into this thread and said that you don't don't respect Eminem as an MC for XYZ, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I would have simply let you speak your peace, just like I did when you decided to translate that simple statement into some sort of epic novel.
The things that went beyond that got pointed up and tip toed around until you finally just moved the argument all the way to "You can't love hip hop and be an Eminem fan".
I didn't even argue against your stance the FIRST time I replied to you because if that's how you feel there is nothing for me to argue about. I never intended to try and change your mind or even counter what you said until you started saying stupid shyt.
For instance, later in this post I see you clearly make a distinction as to what is or isn't hip hop in terms of what can or can't be expressed...this is something that can be argued against, because it really goes out of bounds.
And if you notice, our initial exchanged started with a couple statements that fit this same mold which is why I even replied to them in the first place, other wise I would have let you do your thing like everybody else.
This is exactly the kind of shyt i'm talking about. Again, you go in depth about an artist that you say you aren't really into or have payed much attention to over his career. Which makes sense when you go on to assume that the records that I "feel" have anything to do with women crying for their lives.
I could drag this out, post an albums worth of material that I love/like that has nothing to do with shock value and it still wouldn't matter. As you said you have your position and don't intent to change it, and never had the intentions to try and sway you. I'm just calling you out on your BULLshyt
I'm starting to think you aren't as real of a "head" as you say you are.
Ok, if taking your pain/struggle/hardship and turning it into something positive through expression is what hip hop is about...how does eminem not embody that?
Ooohh, let me try one since we are drawing parallels.
How does this one sound? 2pac promoted a violent, reckless state of mind. That he promoted black death, succumbing to his desire to be authentic, even gaining a sense of glory from being confrontational. Let's not forget in the mid-90's following his death how gang culture became that much more mainstream, to the point where we have nikkas false flagging to look solid it front of the rap audience and R&B singers banging piru on twitter.
It's not that hard to come up with some one dimensional, emotionally charged talking points to try and get a lame argument over the hump. I don't feel that way about 2pac, I love him and his music because he was one of the most unabashedly HUMAN entertainers to ever, he was flawed and self aware about all of it. But there are people who have reduced the entire 2pac phenomenon to that.
Was hip hop ever about telling a nikka you gonna kill his kids on wax? And if you didn't notice, people have been talking about doing fukked up shyt to strangers since 88, unless you trying to say the geto boys aren't hip hop.
A lot of this other shyt below is either filler or you repeating the general sentiment that you don't respect Eminem as an MC, I get it, i'm not going to argue against that. What else is there? Conspiracy theory, Afeni vs. Debbie, c00ns, cacs,. Nothing else to address.
... shyt on c00nye or somethin
