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I wouldn't put him in my top 10 but sure he damn better than Lil' Wayne, Rick Ross, Busta Rhymes,T.I., Jeezy, Drake, Kanye West, etc put it together. He can be in top 20.

Honestly, I even think Eminem is more hip-hop than Jay-Z if you think about it. Eminem cares about hip-hop more than Jay-Z does.


Eminem is way more culturally viable as a bboy, than jay and nas, put together.
let's put it like this,..
if Eminem was on some righteous shyt like nas..
Eminem would never have a bootie shaking contest at his concert.



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I've always felt rappers respect eminems ability to put words together but not the actual music.


they are bytchmade, because this is hiphop.
if you so dope, go serve Eminem.
that won't happen though, because Eminem is the last real pedigree'd battle emcee in rap history.
so, let's kill all that emcees respect the way he puts word together.

I bet they won't make a battle rap record, to challenge his so-called lack of quality song making..


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I thought it was already widely accepted amongst the hip-hop community that even though Eminem is one of the most technically gifted rappers of all time, he lets his skills go to waste by making corny music.


you really can't smash on Eminem's discography like that, though.
on top of the fact, he makes horrorcore.
so, the gripes you have about content and direction.
are your inability to know more about the genre of music he makes music in.
that is your problem and not Eminem's......


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they are bytchmade, because this is hiphop.
if you so dope, go serve Eminem.
that won't happen though, because Eminem is the last real pedigree'd battle emcee in rap history.
so, let's kill all that emcees respect the way he puts word together.

I bet they won't make a battle rap record, to challenge his so-called lack of quality song making..


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Eminem made three great albums and then fell off badly (Relapse, Recovery, etc. are trash); he's shown up on occasion since then (Airplanes Pt. 2, Fast Lane, etc.) but very rarely. Say what you will about their consistency, Nas and Jay-Z have had more longevity than that. That said, the Marshall Mathers LP is legendary. A top 5 rap album easily. If Em had maintained that Slim Shady to Eminem Show momentum...


I really want to read this record review of yours and artist critique of Eminem.
that you can write on the fly right now, without googling and just bringing up the albums and links from your own actual collection.

nas, and jay both had their largest drawing parts of their careers.
in the same era that Eminem was releasing twelves and underground albums in.
an underground...that both jay and nas got to surpass, just because of locale.
yet, and still Eminem a white cat..
from an era where the draw was killed't dead for.
as it pertains to white people rapping.
where, Eminem actually dug up the corpse of that burned the corpse and disposed of it, completely.

then, created his own to draw from....
by real actual cultural skilled submission, in one of the greatest exhbitions of show and prove, in the history of rap.
something jay and nas got gifted, to them....
from other artist who already were a draw, and did the actual leg work for.
Eminem had to do it all by himself.
from a region, that did not know who esham was, in their own town.
plus, had not seen a mainstream relevant group make noise since the Dayton family and Detroit's most wanted.


first off,...jay is a failed sellout emcee, from as far back as double time twelves with jaz, back in 87.

in 87,....let that sink in a minute.
this was when the culture was a pure as it could have possibly been.
a double time style that Eminem also, excelled at.
which was featured on his classic twelve, to biter phobia.

so, argueably Eminem, nas and jay all had classic on their first actual appearances, on wax.


it took a decade later, and numerous style relaunches when jay dropped.
Eminem just like jay was biting nas, on illmatic.
where, people in this thread say they like infinite as his best work.
on top of the first song on infinite being as good as any from the year of 1996, when it dropped.
in 97, Eminem had the best actual ground breaking release on ssep, a classic.

in 96, nas had iww, and sold out.
in 96, jay had rd,..
in 96, Eminem had infinite.
all three releases, people try to revise history and give them erroneous classic labels..
just to put in proper perspective how wrong you are.
in 97, jay was floating between quality limbo with records like girls like and sunshine, on volume one.
which is not a classic.

in 97-99, Eminem made the definitive mainstream gateway submission for radio freestyles on the wake up.

in 97, Eminem was beaten by the best battle emcee of all time.
in 2001, jay was beaten by his best contemporary

except, between 97-2001, Eminem actually cared for the culture.
jay just sold it out and played the sellout that latches on to others while sitting on the fence culturally.
so, he was not readily exposed in that drawing era.

to 2001, getting served and making his last actual high quality release on the sean carter euro saves face mixtape.

after that,...all three artist have the same hit or miss, style of pr for their discographies.

of which,..Eminem only has one universally bad regarded release in the songs for fack, on encore.
a bside release album meant to capture the last remnants of his draw from a fukk'N MOVIE...

that also, had a highly rated soundtrack and features one of the best records in the history of rap in lose ya self.
that actually lyrically depicts the imagery of Eminem in origin and coincides with the movie, brilliantly.
the same type of shyt, jay did for streets is watching, and his other movie soundtracks.
that are also hit or miss,......

nas's discography in between this time period is some of the lowest quality work for an emcee of his caliber.
till, stillmatic's ether saved his career.

in that time period,....
Eminem also released high quality mixtapes and album releases.
that fleshed out his horror core roots, and elongated his series of commercial viable radio records.
that are all high quality releases and erroneously given poor marks.
by people who are not in the know about the actual genre Eminem records.
yet, try to categorize and rate his work out of that realm erroneously.


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they are bytchmade, because this is hiphop.
if you so dope, go serve Eminem.
that won't happen though, because Eminem is the last real pedigree'd battle emcee in rap history.
so, let's kill all that emcees respect the way he puts word together.

I bet they won't make a battle rap record, to challenge his so-called lack of quality song making..


art barr

Theyre bytchmade because they don't listen to his music? Eminems music the last ten years has been horrible, and in his "prime" it wasn't amazing either. I don't think eminem has ten classic hip Hop songs, tbh... I don't think eminem has 20 GREAT songs period.

As I said I'm 100% positive every rapper respects eminems MC skills(how could you not?)But I'm also sure they're not bumping his albums. There's a reason why none of them ever name any of his albums classic or an influence.

And I give him props for the rap Olympics, but what is eminems great battle record BTW? What are his classic diss records...? Lines? This is a guy who has made his name beefing with people like christina aguilera,Mariah Carey, Benzino, and nick cannon:russ:
 

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I really want to read this record review of yours and artist critique of Eminem.
that you can write on the fly right now, without googling and just bringing up the albums and links from your own actual collection.

nas, and jay both had their largest drawing parts of their careers.
in the same era that Eminem was releasing twelves and underground albums in.
an underground...that both jay and nas got to surpass, just because of locale.
yet, and still Eminem a white cat..
from an era where the draw was killed't dead for.
as it pertains to white people rapping.
where, Eminem actually dug up the corpse of that burned the corpse and disposed of it, completely.

then, created his own to draw from....
by real actual cultural skilled submission, in one of the greatest exhbitions of show and prove, in the history of rap.
something jay and nas got gifted, to them....
from other artist who already were a draw, and did the actual leg work for.
Eminem had to do it all by himself.
from a region, that did not know who esham was, in their own town.
plus, had not seen a mainstream relevant group make noise since the Dayton family and Detroit's most wanted.


first off,...jay is a failed sellout emcee, from as far back as double time twelves with jaz, back in 87.

a style that Eminem also, excelled at on his classic twelve, to biter phobia.

so, argueably Eminem, nas and jay all had classic on their first actual appearances, on wax.


in 87,....let that sink in a minute.
this was when the culture was a pure as it could have possibly been.

it took a decade later, and numerous style relaunches when jay dropped.
Eminem just like jay was biting nas, on illmatic.
where, people in this thread say they like infinite as his best work.
on top of the first song on infinite being as good as any from the year of 1996, when it dropped.
in 97, Eminem had the best actual ground breaking release on ssep, a classic.

in 96, nas had iww, and sold out.
in 96, jay had rd,..
in 96, Eminem had infinite.
all three releases, people try to revise history and give them erroneous classic labels..
just to put in proper perspective how wrong you are.
in 97, jay was floating between quality limbo with records like girls like and sunshine, on volume one.
which is not a classic.

in 97-99, Eminem made the definitive mainstream gateway submission for radio freestyles on the wake up.

in 97, Eminem was beaten by the best battle emcee of all time.
in 2001, jay was beaten by his best contemporary

except, between 97-2001, Eminem actually cared for the culture.
jay just sold it out and played the sellout that latches on to others while sitting on the fence culturally.
so, he was not readily exposed in that drawing era.

to 2001, getting served and making his last actual high quality release on the sean carter euro saves face mixtape.

after that,...all three artist have the same hit or miss, style of pr for their discographies.

of which,..Eminem only has one universally bad regarded release in the songs for fack, on encore.
a bside release album meant to capture the last remnants of his draw from a fukk'N MOVIE...

that also, had a highly rated soundtrack and features one of the best records in the history of rap in lose ya self.
that actually lyrically depicts the imagery of Eminem in origin and coincides with the movie, brilliantly.
the same type of shyt, jay did for streets is watching, and his other movie soundtracks.
that are also hit or miss,......

nas's discography in between this time period is some of the lowest quality work for an emcee of his caliber.
till, stillmatic's ether saved his career.

in that time period,....
Eminem also released high quality mixtapes and album releases.
that fleshed out his horror core roots, and elongated his series of commercial viable radio records.
that are all high quality releases and erroneously given poor marks.
by people who are not in the know about the actual genre Eminem records.
yet, try to categorize and rate his work out of that realm erroneously.


art barr

so this was all they left you with huh?

keying in opinions to nikkas that won't remember tomorrow?

you don't know shyt.

the fact that you even refer to cacinem as a knight of the culture shows me you're nothing more than a record keeper and "fact" checker

and here i thought you knew something all this time.



be coli prolific brehs. praise cacs.


:scusthov:

you'll never be able to tell me anything because you can only reflect on the events but can't decipher the science.
 

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so this was all they left you with huh?

keying in opinions to nikkas that won't remember tomorrow?

you don't know shyt.

the fact that you even refer to cacinem as a knight of the culture shows me you're nothing more than a record keeper and "fact" checker

and here i thought you knew something all this time.



be coli prolific brehs. praise cacs.


:scusthov:

you'll never be able to tell me anything because you can only reflect on the events but can't decipher the science.
You actually read this dude's shyt....:scusthov:
 

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of which,..Eminem only has one universally bad regarded release in the songs for fack, on encore.
a bside release album meant to capture the last remnants of his draw from a fukk'N MOVIE...

that also, had a highly rated soundtrack and features one of the best records in the history of rap in lose ya self.
that actually lyrically depicts the imagery of Eminem in origin and coincides with the movie, brilliantly.
the same type of shyt, jay did for streets is watching, and his other movie soundtracks.
that are also hit or miss,......

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Art Barr why is your typing so fukked up? I can't even understand what you're saying half the time, and your shyt is just annoying to read. Do you type from a phone or something?

WTF are you saying in the above quote? Sounds like your saying Fack is on Encore (on the b-side?)? And somehow Fack/Encore relate to trying to grab more money following 8 mile? I don't understand.
Fack is from Curtain Call fyi.
 

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Theyre bytchmade because they don't listen to his music? Eminems music the last ten years has been horrible, and in his "prime" it wasn't amazing either. I don't think eminem has ten classic hip Hop songs, tbh... I don't think eminem has 20 GREAT songs period.

As I said I'm 100% positive every rapper respects eminems MC skills(how could you not?)But I'm also sure they're not bumping his albums. There's a reason why none of them ever name any of his albums classic or an influence.

And I give him props for the rap Olympics, but what is eminems great battle record BTW? What are his classic diss records...? Lines? This is a guy who has made his name beefing with people like christina aguilera,Mariah Carey, Benzino, and nick cannon:russ:

all that scared to speak up tongue in cheek sneak dissing you are saying rappers are doing is the issue.

again,..if you so cold and think you so dope as an emcee, and better than Eminem.
then, go handle that...simplet as that.
nobody is trying to handle that, because they can't and would get served, period.

stop trying to make this out to be something more than it is,..
other than you speculating on some scared to speak up ho ass rappers...
mad cause they really did not culturally do what Eminem did, and still won't to this day.
ol' give a pass to some wack nikka, who ain't bout that life face ass nikka.....



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so this was all they left you with huh?

keying in opinions to nikkas that won't remember tomorrow?

you don't know shyt.

the fact that you even refer to cacinem as a knight of the culture shows me you're nothing more than a record keeper and "fact" checker

and here i thought you knew something all this time.



be coli prolific brehs. praise cacs.


:scusthov:

you'll never be able to tell me anything because you can only reflect on the events but can't decipher the science.


nikka,..
I am a realer bboy than you, and there is nuffin you can do to surpass that.
now, what chu bytch nikka...

you ain't never in ya life culturally or skillwise been on my level and you never will.
now what,.....
now stfu, bytch.....
till, you become actualized for real on my level,..
stfu,..till that day and even after that day, that will never come, too.
always some bytch nikka, who never did shyt in the culture.
who not apart of the culture talembout some science and know not one cultural more the first about hiphop.



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